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The one thing I am missing in this discussion is the impact of MODERATION. They only talk about "this side's viewpoint" and "that side's viewpoint" in their PURE and EXTREMIST FORMS. Personally I am a great fan of Paraceslus' key sentence of "the dosis makes the poison" because it can be applied more or less everywhere (and not just to actual chemical substances) ... and maybe "salvation" isnt in ONE IDEOLOGY OR THE OTHER (as it looks now with all the extremists bashing each others' heads in) or trying to silence the other opinion (Google manifesto, Ryerson University being bullied into stopping Peterson from speaking on free speech, ...) but rather in JUST TAKING THE BEST BITS OF AN IDEOLOGY TO CREATE A MIXED WORLD THAT WORKS WELL ... kinda like "allowing capitalism" but "taking it on a socialist leash to prevent abuse of workers AND to provide health care to everyone" (basically the british NHS: it works but is pretty much socialism).
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17:00 Which places are you talking about that have "reinstated patriarchy"? This is a FAKE CLAIM! I live in Germany and here feminism and "cosmopolitanism" took over a few decades ago ... and it has made this country WORSE ... because you arent allowed to say ANYTHING against the EU or feminism ... or you will be called a "right-wing-populist". We are all human and thus make mistakes ... is an organization that is run by thousands of humans going to be flawless? NO! Angela Merkel even IGNORED 250.000 people protesting against TTIP/CETA right in front of her office in 2015 ... Oh and the "cosmopolitanism" of the EU - which is currently intent on becoming "the United States of EUrope" (treaty of Lisbon if you read between the lines) - is against the constitution of Germany, but our politicians dont care if they eliminate the nation of Germany to let it become a province in the state of EUrope. pro 0 : contra 1
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CORRECTION: it is a "1% difference between HOMO SAPIENS and apes" ... Dear Jordan Peterson, NOT EVERY "homo sapiens" IS ACTUALLY A HUMAN! You need to fulfill some requirements for that ... and this is more or less "being able to OVERRIDE YOUR INSTINCTS," i.e. being able to choose WHAT IS RIGHT instead of WHAT IS EASY.
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Imagine you are a football (soccer) coach: The "left" (feminists) want to have the goalkeeper to play in midfield, the midfield "director" to go goalkeeping, the forwards get to play defense, the defenders play midfield and the midfielders to play forward ... because we "are equal" (which is interpreted as "being IDENTICAL"). Does that make sense though? Feminists dont care!
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Side note (from one who grew up In West-Berlin during the early 70s): 1. Antifa was TESTED / CONCEIVED in West-Berlin during the late 60s-80s and SUPPORTED by the STASI from COMMUNIST East Germany. 2. They RIOTED / tried the black block battle tactic every May 1st (the "worker holiday") ... and it depended on the skill of the Police if it became a "real battle" or not! 3. After the breakup of the Warsaw Pact and german reunification the concept was exported to other "cells" across the globe. 4. Anyone claiming "Antifa isnt a thing" is a COMMUNIST ...
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The english language has three pronouns: - he ... for people identifying as male - she ... for people identifying as female - it ... for those who identify as neither of the above CHOOSE ONE, these are the only ones needed.
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"Beliving AND not believing in god" is like Schrödinger's cat ... and quite possible.
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As a european the music was ANNOYING ... lots of pathos.
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Oh my gosh ... ITS A GIANT ECHO ... First livestream Nicole?
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Preemptive strikes against a supposed oppressor before oppression even exists? Sounds like "the evil alt-right is going to do evil stuff ... so lets abandon free speech now and beat up everyone who isnt with us"-Antifa/SJW logic.
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8:20 You NEED both chaos and order, because if you get rid of chaos you can not define order. They are both the ends on a slider that would not exist without either end. I am astonished that Peterson hasnt come to this "final" conclusion, because it is quite trivial.
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1:12:10 Concerning "looking at beauty (in comparison to looking at bland stuff)": There was a german architect and professor who held a speech in 1905 complaining about bad/ugly architecture ... and he used the following image/comparison: If we go into a restaurant and the band [no radio or grammophone music in 1905] plays badly we would complain, but if we see awful architecture being erected in our neighborhood we bear it without complaint. So I would advise you to start thinking about complaining about bad architecture ... because that kind of stuff is DEMORALIZING to everyone passing it and an example can be found here: https://youtu.be/i-Z4biH-G6c?t=302 german or french only: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Specht The speech is found in: Die Grenzen der künstlerischen Entwicklung an den Baugewerkschulen. In: Deutsche Bauzeitung, 39. Jahrgang 1905, Seite 318 ... which can be found online: https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_EeBLAAAAYAAJ/page/n358
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@Jordan B Peterson 27:20 Don't call them epithets ... use the proper term of THOUGHT-TERMINATING CLICHÉ instead ... because they are designed to terminate the thoughts of the people who believe them it fits much better and explains the "culture of the NPC" ... because after decades of being indoctrinated to not think for themselves and to trust the media people are literally at their wits end to explain Trump for example and "orange man bad" is an actual thought they have.
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Dear "carpet kneelers" (blame YT for censoring the real word behind it, they often enough auto-delete comments), your religion does NOT belong into western civilisations for a simple reason (actually several): - it is a POLITICAL RELIGION with "a set of laws INCLUDED IN THE RELIGION" and a "separate treatment of believers and unbelievers" - it never went through THE ENLIGHTENMENT ... which is where RELIGION LOST ITS POLITICAL POWER in western nations AND - the "organisation of religious teaching" is NOT HIERARCHICALLY STRUCTURED and every Imam can interpret the rules as he sees fit ... which ALLOWS FOR EXTREMISM TO DEVELOP ... and this is independent of the specific religion, because it happened with christian sects a lot of times, with "Jonestown" probably being the most prominent one (usually they dont result in violence against others like with "carpet kneeling", where the POLITICAL RELIGION gives "the enemy"). In short: even if NOW all of you are peaceful ... things can drastically change as Turkey showed, which was turned from secular into "more religious" by a simple vote.
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Danny Lopez That is the way to darkness ... because if you believe in god you also have to accept the existence of his counterpart ... who is present where god can be. Thus your kind of "simpleton thinking" BLENDS OUT THE EXISTENCE AND TEMPTATION OF EVIL ... which we will ALWAYS have to struggle against. The problem of humanity is NOT "serving god" but rather to "fight evil and resist temptation". This is the problem with all the "believers" who go to church and then mindlessly sing the chants and say halleluja ... they DONT THINK CLEARLY ... and phrases like "with the help of god" make me sick. Helping us IS NOT HIS JOB!
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24:00 "What are the opportunities?" = bravery & curiosity & thirst for knowledge = (very broadly) INTELLIGENCE (because intelligence doesnt care about consequences and risks) = MALE trait "What are the risks?" = safekeeping & fear = (broadly) WISDOM = FEMALE trait There you have your two groups ... except that women these days are taught to "be men" ... for that equality.
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10:30 The avant garde was AWFUL ... because they were ARROGANT and thought they were "better than the old stuff" and had to REPLACE everything instead of cooperating with other styles of art. This is especially bad in architecture with the BAUHAUS style which basically eradicated any need for architects to learn past culture or styles. All they needed to know was geometry and the engineering part of building BIG (but ultimately boring) buildings. This "we need to replace everything with our style" way of thinking is part of the rhetoric/ideology of feminism/political "correctness" and even the anarcho-communism of Antifa!
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Dear Gad Saad, get a better designer for your book cover ... because "strong yellow" and "light grey" DO NOT CREATE A GOOD CONTRAST for a book title to be read easily from afar!
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tl;dr Feminists want their cake and eat it ... every time ... and the others (including the children) are just supposed to provide more cake whenever they ask for it.
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How can you teach "liberal arts"? Art is art and not an ideology! If you connect art to an ideology you become a PROPAGANDIST / AGITATOR ... and that is the core problem of "modern leftist education" ... everything is political.
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Cathy Newman has MS-DOS - feminist edition ... adapted for that "pink text on black screen" monitor. Jordan Peterson has full Windows[1]/Linux with billions of colours. [1] NOT the newest "app versions" though, which are again attempts to control the masses through limiting freedom.
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36:15 The "too many white old men in power" argument of diversity is absolutely WRONG ... because if "white old men" were only making decisions "for white men" ... women would never have gotten the vote!
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1. What a brilliant interviewer. I could not have renained that calm in the face of so much hypocrisy and stupidity. 2. "Whoever is without fault may throw the first stone." 3. FEELINGS dont matter dear Auckland Peace Action. Stop "feeling" ... start PROVING ... and make your own videos about it instead of "sighing heavily" every time you get pushback or when your narrative gets questioned. BE PREPARED TO GIVE EVIDENCE FOR BEING RIGHT ... and until that time SHUT UP!
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Sorry ... but a rainbow is NOT chaos! It is a physical-mathematical series with a logical core behind it. Logic is the opposite of chaos!
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1:19:50 No ... the solution isnt to "build NEW fountains" but rather to "reopen the ones we already had and which were filled with stupid rubble by modernists who think only new stuff is good stuff and newer is automatically better"! This means that SOCIETY NEEDS TO CHANGE ... not universities (well universities need to slow down, get rid of many of the "humanities" [the useless gender-based stuff] and focus on IMPORTANT stuff like PHILOSOPHY and ETHICS ... but NOT "from a marxist perspective").
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"[…] to have one foot in rights and one foot in duties." Well said Mr. Shapiro. This explains perfectly the problem/imbalance of ideologues today and it is entirely based in the student revolution from the 60s where the "me me me have rights" culture began.
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WORSE: Turdeau is a COMMUNIST.
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If you are in a university you need to go to your diversity & safe space office and tell them that you need a lot of cuddling because you were triggered by it. Take a lesson from Steve Hughes and go to them whenever a boy band is shown on TV or when you hurt your foot or whenever someone wears a colour you dont like or whenever you hear a song your dont like ... https://youtu.be/fHMoDt3nSHs
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NOTHING has changed at Laurier ... Rambukkana still has a job and so do the other two ... and they should REALLY be fired because there WAS NO COMPLAINT BY A STUDENT. So they LIED and abused their power for the purpose of indoctrination.
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44:30 "... and I could wrestle them half to death" ... uh oh ... another quote that could be mined by SJWs and their media to "demonstrate" how eeeeevil Jordan Peterson is.
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