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... because feminists only care about POWER and although garbage disposal might be necessary, it should be left to lowly males.
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54:50 "Somebody had to do it" ... yes ... and we thank you for it.
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Sadly ... the time for TALKING is over ... now it is the time for DOING ... and this will have to include REGULATING SOCIAL MEDIA and THROWING "professors" OUT OF UNIVERSITIES for indoctrinating students into communism and inciting them to riot.
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Yes ... we need more heads to "stand on" or else they can simply "chop off" [= discredit] the one of the "leader" and win. GamerGate had no leader and was pretty much untouchable because of this, but the fight against social justice in the western world needs many more than just Peterson, Saad and a handful of others. Every university needs their heroes to fight this.
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Go for it ... and then do what he did to raise the issue even more. There are also people saying that most other Google employees agree with the memo, so you probably wouldnt be alone. In any case ... suing Google should be profitable, if you ever get fired for "having an opinion".
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There is also A LOT of hatred for Trolls on the internet ... which is probably the biggest racially discriminated against group ever!
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Diversity of [insert FIXED outside characteristic or sexual orientation/state] has replaced diversity of thought ... @Progress Holistic Tell me about it ... here in Germany we do not have anything like "freedom of speech" anchored in the mindset of the general public and all the media networks are providing is "pro-government coverage". I am currently writing a letter to a newspaper which had an article from a media studies professor about "how to talk to the right-wing people" ... after we got a small part of them in our parliament after this years election and he only looks at "discussion strategies on how to win that fight" but never at "what did we (lefties) do wrong to create this rise of right-wing?" Self-criticism? Nah ... Oh and he looks at the "rise of the right" as "the problem" when it is actually rather the effect of the cause. So far I am on page seven of that letter ... and I hope I manage to finish it.
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+dog69420 Does that make the outrage over stupid SJWs wrong? No it doesnt ... but you imply it does, which is a cheap trick and an ad hominem, because you dont talk about the issue itself.
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@rkowen4652 "It isnt what I SAY ... but what I DO ... that defines me." STOP LISTENING TO THE WORDS ... LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO!
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@publius5128 WERNER SOMBART counted the number of different definitions for "socialism" in the 1920s ... and came up with 260 different ones back then, which is one reason why "they" claim "it wasnt TRUE socialism yet" ... which extends to communism due to the fact that it always starts with socialism and ends with communism. The ONLY CLEAR definition for socialism is to START WITH THE WORD ITSELF ... -ism = IDEOLOGY OF social = "being nice to others and cooperative" ... or in other words: the LIES AND PROMISES of "free stuff" which politicians make to get you to vote for them. This ALWAYS ignores the fact that SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR "FREE STUFF" and most importantly: NO COUNTRY CAN AFFORD EVERYTHING in the usual bundle of socialist promises ... well except Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, ... as long as they have a TINY population and VAST excess of money. I grew up in West-Berlin since the early 70s ... and even then the gradual decline of East Germany over the 20 years was OBVIOUS ... they were incapable of keeping up appearances more and more ... because they had run out of money and were MORTGAGING EVERYTHING to "pay" for the excess in cost. That is why communism DOESNT WORK AND NEVER WILL!
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You only need intelligence if you want to BE CORRECT ... but SJWs dont care about that, they instead want to WIN and to achieve that goal you simply need intimidation and simple minded fools.
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Was anyone else triggered by "YouTube ony takes videos in the PROGRESSIVE format"? Clearly a bias by them ... ;)
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No she didnt ... she just collapsed in the middle of town and cried "my victimhood" ... and lots of white knights started defending her nonexistant honor.
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Supporting communism needs to become as undesirable as devil worship ...
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It takes only a few steps from individualism to reach selfishness ... AS FOR ALL IDEOLOGIES. It takes only a few steps from capitalism to neo-liberalism. It takes only a few steps from "equal rights for both genders" to intersectionality. It takes only a few steps from "equal rights for all races" to intersectionality. The bottom line is: EXTREMISM is bad and every ideology MUST BE opposed by others AND it must accept its opposition as necessary. As soon as any ideology declares itself as "the one and only legitimate one" you need to worry ... a lot.
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The way to "push the issue" is to destroy the thought-terminating cliches. Make feminists EXPLAIN why "aircondition is sexist" ... and why they cant simply wear more clothes to keep warm instead for example (which would be a solution to not feeling chilly with a running aircondition). Once the left are without their "invulnerability shield" of thought-terminating cliches, they will HAVE TO start arguing ... and only then can we have an open discussion again. Sadly this would require FORCING them to talk ... and a lawsuit would be the perfect place to start. Have Google explain where and why the memo is "anti-diversity" or whatever they claim it is.
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She fell on her own sword ... because the "interviewing tactic" of ... 1. listen for key words 2. rearrange them into something OUTRAGEOUS ("So you say") 3. get righteous indignation when your interviewee says anything other than "No I didnt say that at all" 4. rinse and repeat with a different topic The secret is out now to the masses ... her spell is broken and she can be defeated EASILY by simply starting every sentence with "No I did not say that at all".
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That's how the GDR was ... with the Stasi informants (about 1 in 90 of every person in the GDR was an informer back then).
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Write it all down (including names and any proof you can gather) to have it at your fingertips if someone asked. Maybe you arent alone either and you could "come out of the woodwork" together with other victims to ask for reparations (kinda like these rape victims who come after decades). Maybe it could also help and be reported on by others like Benjamin A. Boyce, who does a stellar job of reporting on the SJW-universities in the USA and Canada: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm13xHVNFVwzHzK3QHSaZ3Q
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Watching Yuri Bezmenov explain this 30 years ago is scary.
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59:50 "Gender inequality" is clearly SJW-speak for "if you state that men and women are not the same you imply that women are worse". At least that is my impression of this phrase.
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@YearsOVDecay1 The communist Spotify employees wont allow for Peterson to get an interview with Rogan again anyways ...
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@SVSky Of course he KNEW ... because ideologies that PREACH "victim vs. perpetrator WITH NO MIDDLE GROUND" will always lead to BLOODSHED. It was the same with all the crusades (although the muslims were murderous as well), the "civilise the savages" propaganda of the colonialist time and the "convert the heathens" way of aggressively spreading christianity.
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SHOTS FIRED ... Thank you!
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Journalists dont only have freedom to speak their mind ... but this SHOULD come at a price, because they SHOULD BE "critical of the high and mighty to warn the general population of abusers" ... and this is the problem right now with uncritical journalists being more or less activists rather than investigators.
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Congrats ... you win the "idiot who posts a first comment" award.
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Peterson's power level is over 9000 ...
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17:20 "Not being aware" of this issue seems like a cheap excuse due to the scandal causing such waves.
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You forget that the Marxists are doing it "sneakily" this time around and they do not call themselves Marxists this time but rather present themselves in sheepskin of "being nice to women" and "for social 'justice' ". No one will be against that ... and if you start arguing about details you "are against women and justice". That makes it easy to label people as "bad" ... because 90%+ of the population are just stupid and do not think it will affect them.
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You might want to look into the origins of Antifa ... in West-Berlin ... where they were supported to grow by the STASI since the late 60s. The "black block" had a street battle with our Police every May 1st (more or less ... it got less and less during the 80s, because the Police were really good at handling them .... WATER CANNONS - which are deemed to be "mean" in the USA - are the key).
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"There is more variability within groups" ... and the "chief diversity officer" of Apple (a black woman) got fired[1] for saying that "12 blonde, blue eyed, hetero and white men can be diverse" ... [1] She wasnt actually fired but is quitting ... but that is the same thing. They probably mobbed her out of the job.
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@Jamthis "It" is the correct pronoun for anything non-male/-female ... but they will have people change that too like the left is changing the meanings of many many words.
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Obviously I am first NOW and you are LAST "backwards from now". Yeah, relative.
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I havent started with watching the debate ... but anyone coming against Stephen Fry and Jordan Peterson is going to lose! Both of them are very very well educated and very well versed in thinking critically ... including about their own ideas.
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39:20 "Just following policy" ... or in other words "just following ORDERS" reminds me - as a German - far too much of a very very bad time. These people need to learn PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY again (i.e. THINKING), which is why every soldier for example has a duty to disobey illegal orders!
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The problem with "radical leftism" is that it is a RELIGION, because it is BELIEF-BASED instead of EVIDENCE-BASED (try arguing with them about the Amber Heard case). When they "get enlightened" ... they DONT NECESSARILY CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOUR, just the set of values they BELIEVE in. Western civilisation is based upon the values of THE ENLIGHTENMENT ... LOGIC and RATIONAL THOUGHT ... or in other words: EVIDENCE instead of FEELINGS.
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Add a beret, baguette and Gauloise ... and you have a frenchman.
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Obviously "real communism" hasnt been tried yet ....
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When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle. - Edmund Burke ("often regarded as the father of modern conservatism"), 1770
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17:55 Oh come on David ... that comment is NOT NASTY and it is NOT MISOGYNISTIC! You clearly show your Channel 4 heritage here ... and find no real evidence for that claim ... and yet you make it.
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Dear Mr. Walcott, 56:00 EVERYONE will be affected by these things so EVERYONE should have the right to voice an opinion. Trying to disqualify someone just because he isnt teaching "queer studies" is wrong. If you want to limit the gender pronouns amongst yourselves that is fine ... you can limit the debaters, but as long as it is going to be written into law EVERYONE has a voice!
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Dear Mr. Walcott ... "Sticks and stones may break my bones but WORDS CAN NEVER HARM ME."
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Back in "medieval times" the muslim nations were pretty cultured and scientific, BUT they fell behind due to the religious prohibition of depicting humans (who are made in the image of god). You cant have a medical book written without an image of a human for example. So in a sense all these "bans on publication" are doing exactly the same ... holding western society/science (this time) back.
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Why does everyone consider "rocket science" to be the "really smart and tough stuff"? THIS (philosophy) is MUCH harder because you cant simply "build a prototype and test it" as with rocket science!
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21:10 In other words: "Social justice is the deconstruction of meaning" This is one of the best descriptions of the way SJWs work on a practical level [from a discussion on Sargon's "The Thinkery" channel: https://youtu.be/fvK6rnhOYRg ].
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1:20:00 Concerning Facebook and "likes" ... Would it be better if Facebook was allowed to have DISLIKES too? With likes only you get only confirmations and dont have to learn to take criticisms.
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0:12 Dear Dave Rubin, stop calling our countries "free" ... call them "countries PRETENDING to be free".
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+J. F. D. Smit .... and who seems to be on the verge of a very promising career.
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16:45 Did you APOLOGIZE and REIMBURSE people for lost time/police action? Did you take up the RESPONSIBILITY for it? "Not doing it again" is NOT AN APOLOGY!
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The problem is that BELIEF is enough these days to overcome the "lack of proof" for a CLAIM. This includes the BELIEF in "the greater good" (cf. Hot Fuzz ...).
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The one thing I am missing in this discussion is the impact of MODERATION. They only talk about "this side's viewpoint" and "that side's viewpoint" in their PURE and EXTREMIST FORMS. Personally I am a great fan of Paraceslus' key sentence of "the dosis makes the poison" because it can be applied more or less everywhere (and not just to actual chemical substances) ... and maybe "salvation" isnt in ONE IDEOLOGY OR THE OTHER (as it looks now with all the extremists bashing each others' heads in) or trying to silence the other opinion (Google manifesto, Ryerson University being bullied into stopping Peterson from speaking on free speech, ...) but rather in JUST TAKING THE BEST BITS OF AN IDEOLOGY TO CREATE A MIXED WORLD THAT WORKS WELL ... kinda like "allowing capitalism" but "taking it on a socialist leash to prevent abuse of workers AND to provide health care to everyone" (basically the british NHS: it works but is pretty much socialism).
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17:00 Which places are you talking about that have "reinstated patriarchy"? This is a FAKE CLAIM! I live in Germany and here feminism and "cosmopolitanism" took over a few decades ago ... and it has made this country WORSE ... because you arent allowed to say ANYTHING against the EU or feminism ... or you will be called a "right-wing-populist". We are all human and thus make mistakes ... is an organization that is run by thousands of humans going to be flawless? NO! Angela Merkel even IGNORED 250.000 people protesting against TTIP/CETA right in front of her office in 2015 ... Oh and the "cosmopolitanism" of the EU - which is currently intent on becoming "the United States of EUrope" (treaty of Lisbon if you read between the lines) - is against the constitution of Germany, but our politicians dont care if they eliminate the nation of Germany to let it become a province in the state of EUrope. pro 0 : contra 1
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CORRECTION: it is a "1% difference between HOMO SAPIENS and apes" ... Dear Jordan Peterson, NOT EVERY "homo sapiens" IS ACTUALLY A HUMAN! You need to fulfill some requirements for that ... and this is more or less "being able to OVERRIDE YOUR INSTINCTS," i.e. being able to choose WHAT IS RIGHT instead of WHAT IS EASY.
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Imagine you are a football (soccer) coach: The "left" (feminists) want to have the goalkeeper to play in midfield, the midfield "director" to go goalkeeping, the forwards get to play defense, the defenders play midfield and the midfielders to play forward ... because we "are equal" (which is interpreted as "being IDENTICAL"). Does that make sense though? Feminists dont care!
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Side note (from one who grew up In West-Berlin during the early 70s): 1. Antifa was TESTED / CONCEIVED in West-Berlin during the late 60s-80s and SUPPORTED by the STASI from COMMUNIST East Germany. 2. They RIOTED / tried the black block battle tactic every May 1st (the "worker holiday") ... and it depended on the skill of the Police if it became a "real battle" or not! 3. After the breakup of the Warsaw Pact and german reunification the concept was exported to other "cells" across the globe. 4. Anyone claiming "Antifa isnt a thing" is a COMMUNIST ...
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The english language has three pronouns: - he ... for people identifying as male - she ... for people identifying as female - it ... for those who identify as neither of the above CHOOSE ONE, these are the only ones needed.
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"Beliving AND not believing in god" is like Schrödinger's cat ... and quite possible.
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As a european the music was ANNOYING ... lots of pathos.
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Oh my gosh ... ITS A GIANT ECHO ... First livestream Nicole?
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Preemptive strikes against a supposed oppressor before oppression even exists? Sounds like "the evil alt-right is going to do evil stuff ... so lets abandon free speech now and beat up everyone who isnt with us"-Antifa/SJW logic.
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8:20 You NEED both chaos and order, because if you get rid of chaos you can not define order. They are both the ends on a slider that would not exist without either end. I am astonished that Peterson hasnt come to this "final" conclusion, because it is quite trivial.
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1:12:10 Concerning "looking at beauty (in comparison to looking at bland stuff)": There was a german architect and professor who held a speech in 1905 complaining about bad/ugly architecture ... and he used the following image/comparison: If we go into a restaurant and the band [no radio or grammophone music in 1905] plays badly we would complain, but if we see awful architecture being erected in our neighborhood we bear it without complaint. So I would advise you to start thinking about complaining about bad architecture ... because that kind of stuff is DEMORALIZING to everyone passing it and an example can be found here: https://youtu.be/i-Z4biH-G6c?t=302 german or french only: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Specht The speech is found in: Die Grenzen der künstlerischen Entwicklung an den Baugewerkschulen. In: Deutsche Bauzeitung, 39. Jahrgang 1905, Seite 318 ... which can be found online: https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_EeBLAAAAYAAJ/page/n358
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@Jordan B Peterson 27:20 Don't call them epithets ... use the proper term of THOUGHT-TERMINATING CLICHÉ instead ... because they are designed to terminate the thoughts of the people who believe them it fits much better and explains the "culture of the NPC" ... because after decades of being indoctrinated to not think for themselves and to trust the media people are literally at their wits end to explain Trump for example and "orange man bad" is an actual thought they have.
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Dear "carpet kneelers" (blame YT for censoring the real word behind it, they often enough auto-delete comments), your religion does NOT belong into western civilisations for a simple reason (actually several): - it is a POLITICAL RELIGION with "a set of laws INCLUDED IN THE RELIGION" and a "separate treatment of believers and unbelievers" - it never went through THE ENLIGHTENMENT ... which is where RELIGION LOST ITS POLITICAL POWER in western nations AND - the "organisation of religious teaching" is NOT HIERARCHICALLY STRUCTURED and every Imam can interpret the rules as he sees fit ... which ALLOWS FOR EXTREMISM TO DEVELOP ... and this is independent of the specific religion, because it happened with christian sects a lot of times, with "Jonestown" probably being the most prominent one (usually they dont result in violence against others like with "carpet kneeling", where the POLITICAL RELIGION gives "the enemy"). In short: even if NOW all of you are peaceful ... things can drastically change as Turkey showed, which was turned from secular into "more religious" by a simple vote.
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Danny Lopez That is the way to darkness ... because if you believe in god you also have to accept the existence of his counterpart ... who is present where god can be. Thus your kind of "simpleton thinking" BLENDS OUT THE EXISTENCE AND TEMPTATION OF EVIL ... which we will ALWAYS have to struggle against. The problem of humanity is NOT "serving god" but rather to "fight evil and resist temptation". This is the problem with all the "believers" who go to church and then mindlessly sing the chants and say halleluja ... they DONT THINK CLEARLY ... and phrases like "with the help of god" make me sick. Helping us IS NOT HIS JOB!
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24:00 "What are the opportunities?" = bravery & curiosity & thirst for knowledge = (very broadly) INTELLIGENCE (because intelligence doesnt care about consequences and risks) = MALE trait "What are the risks?" = safekeeping & fear = (broadly) WISDOM = FEMALE trait There you have your two groups ... except that women these days are taught to "be men" ... for that equality.
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10:30 The avant garde was AWFUL ... because they were ARROGANT and thought they were "better than the old stuff" and had to REPLACE everything instead of cooperating with other styles of art. This is especially bad in architecture with the BAUHAUS style which basically eradicated any need for architects to learn past culture or styles. All they needed to know was geometry and the engineering part of building BIG (but ultimately boring) buildings. This "we need to replace everything with our style" way of thinking is part of the rhetoric/ideology of feminism/political "correctness" and even the anarcho-communism of Antifa!
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Dear Gad Saad, get a better designer for your book cover ... because "strong yellow" and "light grey" DO NOT CREATE A GOOD CONTRAST for a book title to be read easily from afar!
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tl;dr Feminists want their cake and eat it ... every time ... and the others (including the children) are just supposed to provide more cake whenever they ask for it.
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How can you teach "liberal arts"? Art is art and not an ideology! If you connect art to an ideology you become a PROPAGANDIST / AGITATOR ... and that is the core problem of "modern leftist education" ... everything is political.
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Cathy Newman has MS-DOS - feminist edition ... adapted for that "pink text on black screen" monitor. Jordan Peterson has full Windows[1]/Linux with billions of colours. [1] NOT the newest "app versions" though, which are again attempts to control the masses through limiting freedom.
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36:15 The "too many white old men in power" argument of diversity is absolutely WRONG ... because if "white old men" were only making decisions "for white men" ... women would never have gotten the vote!
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1. What a brilliant interviewer. I could not have renained that calm in the face of so much hypocrisy and stupidity. 2. "Whoever is without fault may throw the first stone." 3. FEELINGS dont matter dear Auckland Peace Action. Stop "feeling" ... start PROVING ... and make your own videos about it instead of "sighing heavily" every time you get pushback or when your narrative gets questioned. BE PREPARED TO GIVE EVIDENCE FOR BEING RIGHT ... and until that time SHUT UP!
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Sorry ... but a rainbow is NOT chaos! It is a physical-mathematical series with a logical core behind it. Logic is the opposite of chaos!
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1:19:50 No ... the solution isnt to "build NEW fountains" but rather to "reopen the ones we already had and which were filled with stupid rubble by modernists who think only new stuff is good stuff and newer is automatically better"! This means that SOCIETY NEEDS TO CHANGE ... not universities (well universities need to slow down, get rid of many of the "humanities" [the useless gender-based stuff] and focus on IMPORTANT stuff like PHILOSOPHY and ETHICS ... but NOT "from a marxist perspective").
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"[…] to have one foot in rights and one foot in duties." Well said Mr. Shapiro. This explains perfectly the problem/imbalance of ideologues today and it is entirely based in the student revolution from the 60s where the "me me me have rights" culture began.
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WORSE: Turdeau is a COMMUNIST.
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If you are in a university you need to go to your diversity & safe space office and tell them that you need a lot of cuddling because you were triggered by it. Take a lesson from Steve Hughes and go to them whenever a boy band is shown on TV or when you hurt your foot or whenever someone wears a colour you dont like or whenever you hear a song your dont like ... https://youtu.be/fHMoDt3nSHs
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NOTHING has changed at Laurier ... Rambukkana still has a job and so do the other two ... and they should REALLY be fired because there WAS NO COMPLAINT BY A STUDENT. So they LIED and abused their power for the purpose of indoctrination.
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44:30 "... and I could wrestle them half to death" ... uh oh ... another quote that could be mined by SJWs and their media to "demonstrate" how eeeeevil Jordan Peterson is.
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