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@Bella.Parabellum well it's nice to know that someone who claims superior mental development thinks 5yr olds are middle schoolers... I mean come on, that's genuinely ironic that you put those two in the same comment and posted it seriously lol.
That being said, as far as maturity goes, yeah, that's a well known fact, they even taught that in public school and you could research it yourself. Men reach peak maturity is around 43yrs old, the brain dosent even stop maturing until 25yrs old.
The reason women mature faster and have a lower ceiling is because they are more social and have a greater affinity for preferential detachment. It's also because of this that women game earlier than boys, they don't understand it, it's just part of their social behavior, which is really not a bad thing in and of itself, but when combined with poor coping mechanisms its a recipe for disaster.
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6:30 when you find out your girl is cheating, don't react, be proactive.
This is a lesson I learned years back, what you do is pretend like you know nothing, go about your life as normal, but pick a date, maybe in two weeks, maybe in two months, but on that date you're gone forever.
No debates, no reasons given, no arguments, just watch how much she pretends to love you, see what a snake she is, and when that date comes be ready, change your number, if she knows where you wirk try to transfer but dont tell her where, change or delete social media.
Remember, if she cheated, she doesn't love you, she absolutely thought about you while getting ran through and she turned her back on you knowingly.
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@schrodingersmechanic7622 preach!
I was a stay at home dad for a year and holy crap it was easy street!
Cooking, cleaning, taking care of my son, working out, running errands and going on walks and hikes during the day with my son, cooking and trying out new recipes, all the things that vvomen say is so hard, I felt spoiled AF, not stir crazy because I did stuff and kept myself busy.
If I had the ability to do that VS working like I have for the majority of my life, I'd chose to do that. But if I don't do it, no one will, that is the burden men carry and I have not so kind words for those who claim the stay at home life is hard, very very mean words.
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The issue, when you think about it, is that we were taught a concept that is ENTIRELY contrary to nature, natural law and merit, while we were simultaneously told we were supposed to live according to merit...
Equality.
When you realize how they work on a biological and psychological level, it can leave you very black pilled, very depressed because they are not what we were told they were.
But, there is a silver lining to this, you're a man, as such, you'll have to lead if you want to interact with them much. While it's a responsibility, it's also good for you and good for them if you do it well.
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Sexual liberation was a mistake.
Women back then said that men were sleeping around so women should be able to as well, but those men were mostly shamed... and take note, outside of pop culture.
However it was Hollywood, be it rock and roll (AC-DC, Van Halen, Guns and rose ect) rap (Biggie smalls ect) and so on that popularized men sleeping with multiple women, even until the early 2000s it was still mocked and shamed, even when FB was established, the term player itself held and still holds negative connotations.
Modern entertainment dosent exist to make money, it exists to shape culture and it will make money no matter what. It's why we see all these modernist movies flopping, yet they still keep making them pushing views that the majority of the US still does not have, and media twists studies to try to make it look like more people hold those views, meanwhile the general board of education pushes it in schools to normalize it in the next generations heads. Because even though the movies are currently flopping, in the future the whole of society will flop and this is obvious when you look at the moral state of the west and look back on history to similar nations, they always fell. Always.
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What's traditional though? Because that 1950s kitchenaid housewife who does chores and looks after the kids is a absolutely TINY blip in history. How is that traditional at all?
Traditional is the multi-millenia of history where the vast majority of the work took place in the home, not a factory. Those women brought value in the form of money into the house, from the house while doing the house chores, and due to the lack of modern machinery, the heavy lifting the man did was much harder and took much more effort.
Things are easier now in regards to labor, and these convinces have led to women having the ability to get the basics of housing, transportation ect without having to be under their husband's, fathers, brothers or some other male relatives care who could do the required heavy lifting to sustain life.
That is why we hear so much these days "I don't need no man!", and look that's fantastic, but if that's the case, then stop looking for dudes based on money, height and strength and start looking at moral character....
Ain't gonna happen until we get some kind of cultural course correction.
That being said, if people aren't gonna be FAMILY oriented, then I see little reason to pursue marriage, and if one pursues marriage the family needs to be the primary orientation of both the man and woman.
Now what happens to any individual if you take them and place them in a environment where they are completely taken care of with a bunch of spare time and few responsibilities?
They take it for granted. Unless they are on top of themselves and very self aware of their own tendencies as humans, anyone will begin to become ungrateful within a 10yr period.
With those two things in mind, this 1950s "tradwife" trend is gonna end predominantly in divorce and for this reason I require that my wife always provide a income in some way shape or form, also, traditionally men taught their sons and women taught their wives, the wives didn't teach their sons unless they were very young and with that in mind it is my "traditional" responsibility to teach my son, not the government, not my wife, not "the village".
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This is why I say MGTOW is just feminism for men; because at the end of the day it is compensating for what we were not taught when we were younger, things we should've known before we got burnt and became reactionary.
It's important to put them out of your mind and work on yourself. The spectrum of confidence is not reality but a lense by which we see the world, nor necessarily is your history a accurate representation of what you can accomplish since it was painted with that lense that you had at that time.
How do we know what we are capable of then?
Well, I'd say generally speaking were capable of more than we often think, though this coming from one who had tended towards the low self esteem end of that spectrum. If you're average IQ, you're a pretty capable person, you've just gotta look at things maybe a bit like a fitness coach would, what are you likely to achive and how do you shape and structure your life in a way to accomplish the most?
Take exercise as a example, if you're having a hard time sticking with it, is it because you're trying to make it work instead of fun?
What about finances? How can you make yourself more likely to be successful and how could you make it enjoyable and or a game?
If you can do this, you'll accomplish a lot more than you think you can, and realize that you're able to.
Another way I view it is when your young your parents guide you telling you what you should and shouldn't do, telling you what's going to help you most and get the results you seek. Much of the time we make our decisions a bit more short sighted than that, so the question here is; how do you make discipline a fun and rewarding game?
This will vary from person to person, but ultimately is boiled down to lessons we were not taught when we needed them.
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@Solon64 I think a lot of younger guys just think that people who are saying not to do it are just bitter. I personally wouldn't say I'm bitter, but not happy about a lying psychopath breaking liquor bottles over my head because I didn't want to argue, or getting other simps (obviously at the time I was a simp) to pull guns on me, or punching herself in the face then calling the cops on me trying to blame me for what she had done to herself, the list goes on. 4yrs I dealt with that, sweet as sugar one moment, the next telling you that if you don't hit her she can't respect you.
I'm sure this sounds like a especially crazy one, and sure maybe, but not by as much as many of these young guys think, most of them had issues before being single mothers, the issues never go away, they just pile up and there's not a dam thing anyone can do about it since those women don't want to fix themselves at all.
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@PlainfieldNJIndepCSC this is why I stopped "dating", because I grew up with dating and courting as being synonymous, maybe they were at one point but that point has long since passed.
So my solution is not to "date", but immediately friendzone myself, tell them I don't date people I don't know and in order for me to date someone I actually have to know that I even like them as a person first.
This either makes them run (those that are and know they are 304s) or it makes them realize they have to play ball on my terms and that they have to prove themselves. I refuse to sleep with them even if they offer during this stage. Once sufficient time has passed that I see no major red flags and all is going well, then I establish expectations for dating, my intentions for dating, and make the proposition, if they do not like the terms (submit and commit) then that is that, if they do agree then you move on to courtship or "dating" during this stage you continue to vet for red flags, establish a more intimate relationship (ie will she listen and take direction), if that fails then you drop it and move on, if it does not fail and sufficient time has passed then the marriage gate is opened with the requirement that she continues to submit and commit and holds to those vows, obviously with any woman they will need reminding from time to time when they test you, but if they return quickly to their role then that is good so long as their transgression was not top severe.
I'm 33, been married 7yrs now and this was the first and last time I used this, mostly just winged it when I did it, but it seemed logical and direct enough for me.
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Yeah if I have a responsibility, I will have the authority, if I don't have the authority, then it's not my problem and I'm not helping with it.
I dated a single mom years back, but my first intervention into his behavior came when she started screaming at him, I told her to take a half hour walk, she didn't think I was serious so I told her to go, she came back like 5min later and I told her to take the walk, half an hour and think about what kind of a man she was raising. After that I had the authority, 4yrs later he was such a good kid, he loved me over everyone, refused to stop calling me dad even though his dad was still around (and a good guy) and he called his dad "dad" as well. At the end of it all I had to leave, mom became a methhead and dad got full custody.
Mom's are the worst enemy's of little boys.
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@LoLaSn well if he's around her that much, vetting her by getting to know her family and friends, he would've known. If you don't do this, you're marrying a woman you know nothing about. Only unwise men and simps do that. So either one he jumped into marriage which is such a horrible idea, or two he was aware, in either case, as C.S. Lewis once said "life is a brutal teacher, but you learn, my God do you learn." Sad part is, he will waste his vest years learning that cruel lesson the hard way.
As I see it, if I go to pet a grizzly bear because I don't understand their nature, who is at fault for the impending mauling? Me, or the creature acting out it's nature. And if I do so and get mauled, do I blame the bear? Or do I blame my own stupidity? I think that depends on if you want to relinquish your life to mere fate and take on the role of NPC, or if you want to rise above and have some control over your life. This lesson I learned from a cheating ex and I hope all men learn quicker than I did, but, ultimately, I have no one to blame but myself.
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@NotGoodAtNamingThings I think Portland is actually less liberal than Seattle because Seattle was on the map earlier and attracted a lot of Californians.
It's funny because in that area I'm talking about in Oregon, people carry guns all the time, it's just a normal thing, even when I lived in and or traveled to Portland I'd have a glock on my hip, most of the time I'd get a funny look here or there but not much else.
But land is nice to have, I'd say keep it, it'll go up in value regardless and you could potentially build a cabin on it and use it as a bit of a vacation spot to get away from the noise when you need to, and over time as you add to it, if you decide to sell it, it will still be worth more.
Personally I hate the city, I love the peace and quiet of the country, seeing the stars and seeing deer graze across the property in the morning.
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I view relationships a lot like children. So long as their needs are met (your own in regards to the dating world) then it should be fine.
Imo your needs would be a growing savings account, ownership or progress made towards ownership of a house, basically just basic wise financial decisions. Beyond that if a woman is concerned with how much I make she's for the streets. Unless you're trying to be a Rockefeller (good luck, they'd off you if you ever got close) then stop trying to flex with their money, it's laughable.
That being said, it's my personal opinion that a man should be seeking to be and do the best he can in every aspect of life, not for women, not for others, but for the pursuit of virtue alone.
If it's for anyone, it should be for his children and or to lift others up and enable others to live more virtuous lives, not more gluttonous or materialistic lives.
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I'm 33, married, usually talk to my mom about twice a week or more.
My family does a lot together, camp trips, usually vacations cause we can get deals and make it cheaper plus it works out that if me and my wife want to go out my mom can watch our son ect.
Family is a fantastic support unit, but it seems because these 304s never had that, they think if a family isn't completely broken that it's to the polar opposite of creepy, clingy, showing up unannounced ect, which is equally unhealthy as a broken family, well maybe a tad less but it's close.
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Chick at 7:35
Doesn't seem to understand that she's not just competing with other women, shes also competing with the absence of women.
For instance, lets call her Tammy; Tammy here is a drain on my peace by about -2pts, but Amanda is a drain on my peace by about -3pts, however, simply having no woman means I have my peace in full measure.
I can build the house, I can furnish the house, I can decorate the house, organize the house and make myself any kind of food, wash my cloths ect cause ya know, Im a stronk Nd independence mann an I dunt need nuh whaymen!
People seem to have become so emotionally codependent that they forget the only reason to be in a relationship with someone is because you genuinely enjoy them and love them, not because your mommy or daddy issues wont let you sleep alone at night without going crazy.
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No man ever convinced me not to date a single mom, a single mom did that all on her own.
4yrs with this psycho and all she wanted to do was use her son against his own dad and use me against him as well.
It didn't work, I got her son into muay thai, his dad wanted to come and I encouraged it. I did my best to be a father figure and she was the single biggest hindrance of that, I was able to discipline, teach and guide him, but she would flip put and scream at him and put him down when he was 3yrs old...
She used him and because she was such a horrible person when I left her she dated a dude she worked with (probably cheated but I dont know dor sure), they both got hooked on meth, she lost her job, lost her apartment and lost custody.
Last I knew the boy was doing great and so was the dad, but losing custody of him for the time he did ruined him, me making sure he was there for his son gave him hope and as far as I know he did very well.
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I'm gonna try to make this short but remember this.
A study was done at a preschool, kids who liked coloring were given rewards for doing so, after the rewards were removed the kids stopped even though they use to do it for the joy of it. Eventually they went back to it but what this showed is by rewarding a behavior the kids attention shifted to the reward and they lost the joy of doing what they use to.
Moral is, focus on the effort, learn to love the effort, the lifestyle, the rewards will come, just always focus on the effort as being all the reward you need, it'll propel you and push you beyond your current limitations.
Also if you haven't, go listen or read the poems
The man in the Arena: Teddy Roosevelt
If: Rudyard Kipling
Proof Of Worth by Edgar Albert Guest
That last one I stumbled across the day my daughter died and I can't listen to it because of that, but these are some of the greatest bits of advice on masculinity here in these poems.
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@h.u.l.k.7072 that's as far as I know, and I don't know how solid that is, I had this boss years back (woman) who took her husband to court over it and he had to spend a night in jail and then basically shag her within a week and also start marriage counseling. That being said, it was a woman who took the man to court, I doubt modern judges would rule the same if it were a man.
But yeah sex is important in a relationship, I know there will be "dry times" here and there throughout a long marriage depending, but there really shouldn't be.
Plus statistically speaking, couples who have sex 5+ times a week on average make significantly more money than those who have sex 3 or less times per week.
And lastly, a joke a 90 something year old man told me one time, he said every once in a while he'll stay up later than usual, sit in his chair in the living room reading or something, and when his wife (who was standing there when he told the joke) fell asleep he'd go get a glass of water, go to the room and toss the water on her. She would of course wake up cussing and ask him what the hell he was doing, he'd reply that he was bringing her a glass of water for her headache to which she would reply that she didn't have a headache and he would say; OK, well now that's out of the way.
It's funnier in person and from a old man, made my day, that couple was fantastic, out and about regularly and had a great relationship, always smiling.
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@thiacari I agree with nearly everything you've said here minus one little thing, a bit of a side note and not of huge importance really, but something that rubs me the wrong way and so I feel inclined to speak on, so don't take offense or feel I'm in opposition to your over all point, I absolutely agree with it and think your analogy is a very good one having grown up working in construction.
But, I would argue that men who are quick to conflict are not masculine, but rather feminine as being quick to conflict in the modern day and especially in the context of a professional environment is simply being driven by emotion rather than logic.
A increase in T levels will force cortisol levels down and dopamine will rise with the T levels, leaving a man feeling happier, less stressed and as a fantastic benifit of a rise in Testosterone a increase in the logic centers of the brain.
Naturally high T levels will leave a man more prone to thoughtfulness, decreased stress and increased happiness, while low T levels or imbalances in this regard might leave a man feeling stressed, less logical and MORE prone to emotional outbursts.
When feminists were trying to say that high T was at fault for roid rage ect, the opposite was actually true, that is actually a issue of low T or a hormonal imbalance.
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5:49 I have to disagree with you here man. Women are a bonus, but Alexander the Great, Atilla the Hun, Genghis Khan ect did what they did for glory, to build, to conquer, to make a great name either for themselves, or their posterity.
A father absolutely takes care of and invests in his family, but even culturally in the west and historically Christian nations this is how you were supposed to live not for them, but for God. "Anyone who loves their father or mother, son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:37
The point of being benevolent is not primarily for the sake of those who are under your care, but as a responsibility to God and your relationship with Him.
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But truth be told, if you really want her to want it more, 1: never bring it up and on occasion withold it. Tease her.
And 2: make sure she's getting enough sunlight, if that's not a option vitamin D3 with K2 can help a little if those are low.
Also ice baths.
And remove stimulants like sugar, add in other stuff like garlic, oysters, and foods rich in omega 3 fatty acids.
In my opinion, sex hormones are one of the better metrics of over all health, birth control generally negatively fucks with these things even if it's been a long time since she's used them.
And make sure she gets the blood flowing regularly, dosent need to be a lot, but at least 150 minutes per week, so go to a park and play soccer with her or go hiking regularly. Also saunas do boost HGH if you stay in them long enough at a hot enough temp, if memory serves me right 185-200°F, 30 minutes in, 10 out, 30 in again, 4hr break and repeat once every two weeks. This increases HGH by 1600%.
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@kaputasri in my home I am führer, my wife knows this and knows why it's important.
Now I jest of course, however I require that she stays engaged and invests in the relationship, it's important to understand that yes, it takes two to tango and if you allow a woman to get by doing absolutely nothing, she will fall out of love with you, but what you invest in your will grow close to.
If someone wants to make a relationship last, not only do they need to be investing, but so does the other and it needs to be understood that if someone fails in this, no matter how well meant they are, it will end for them before it becomes a nightmare and then ends overtly.
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First apartments I ever lived in, a couple was arguing, dude tried to step in and de escalate the situation, chick reached into the car, pulled a gun out and shot the dude in the head. He of course died.
Not gonna intervene, my son needs a father and these women have to learn, if they chose to learn the hard way, that sucks, but it's on them at this point.
They wanted equality, they gained superiority, and now they wonder why men are uninterested except the ones who chase tail...
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@bobkudla6960 spot on.
I learned how to drive on a manual geo metro, first attempt was on a inclined gravel hill lol. First car was also a manual and I prefer them for sure.
Right now I've just got a 08 Subaru outback and dude, such a pile of crap! I mean I've not been kind to it lol. Around 220k miles I completely blew the engine, a piston ring must have come out and jammed the cylinder or something cause the piston itself was blown to pieces and sitting in the oil pan, did a engine swap for a newer engine that had just under 10k miles on it. Never touched the transmission but the fluid is clean so I'm not gonna risk that. But the electrical is crap and being a boxer engine you've gotta remove the engine if you wanna do any head work which includes adjusting the valves.
Also I've high centered it before and that fancy all wheel drive goes out the window, had to have the wife drive it while I used a log to pry the read end to get it out. Plus because it's not new and not American replacement parts are hit or miss, most are total crap and those that aren't are over priced.
I worked at Subaru and could get parts cheap so thats why I got it, don't work there anymore though and no matter what anyone tells you, they are city cars only, they are not cut out for much more than that and they don't even do that very well, crap gas mileage for a little commuter.
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@ricardokojin7 it's enough if you're gonna take the risk and don't hold back on your standards, most of the issue is seeing if they can handle those standards over some time, if they can handle it for a year then that's the best indicator you can get, beyond that if they change in the future and decide those standards are no longer to their liking, that's the risk you take no matter how long you make them wait and is always a possibility, the only two reasons I took that risk is because I was already moving towards abandoning society nearly entirely and going full fledged My Side Of The Mountain, so if I lose all I've built up it means very little to me. The second reason was because if by chance she never decides to up and take everything, then having children is something I wanted, to be a father and devote my life to raising a son into a strong man. So if worst comes to worst, I still very much enjoy my solitude and I got a woman who does as well, she's feminine, yet lived off grid with me (no running water, no electricity, no heat or AC ect) for a year and decided that was the life she wanted. So, if it ends up that over the years she decides she doesn't like it and wants to leave, well that sucks, I love her and all but she can let the door hit her on the way out if commitment means that little to her, I'd rather live among the bears 🤣.
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Hey brother,
One thing that helps me a lot, is to focus a bit on the good aspects of life. For the most part I don't listen to modern music cause it's mostly the same, I end up listening to classical music, I love neoclassical and queen Anne furniture, I love a wide variety of architecture but mostly among western cultures from ancient Greece to classical Europe, those cultures which reached for a higher way. I love gardening, carpentry and flowers.
Focusing on the beauty of life really makes this garbage fall to the background of your mind and helps keep it in perspective.
While it is draining, what is the reason?
Is it not to shine a light on this darkness so that it may be abolished and we can reach for those higher ways of living?
Is it not to teach young men who are unaware of the traps set before them that they might avoid those pitfalls and the damage it does to us when we fall into these traps?
Is it not that we can frame and direct our lives as men in ways that protect us and optimize our way of life that we can live strong lives full of goodness?
I'd say take a break, maybe even make a video of those beautiful and good things. It's easy for us to point fingers and lose sight of what is good and beautiful, but it is that contrast between the two that really exposes the darkness in this world AND shows the path forward. Not simply showing the problem, but providing a sort of solution as well.
Stay strong brother, we don't hate evil for no reason, we hate it BECAUSE it threatens that which we love which often times we never see in the mainstream, so it's important to seek it out as if gives hope to us all.
Thank you brother for your work and stay positive.
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Oh I'll be a good man, with my guns, dogs, surf board, hiking boots, fishing pole, gym membership, bike, dualsport ect.
The fact these women think that good men include women on their list of things to gain is just silly, did they ever ask if guys even want women, or just assume because they wanted to spread their legs...
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I rode motorcycles for a few years. The memes are mostly true about them attracting far more guys with "is that a 1000?" Or "how fast will it go?", but on a few occasions driving down the highway girls would flash me.
On one occasion a lifted truck came up in the lane to my left, all about my age at the time (23), a guy driving, girl in the passenger seat and three in the back, they rolled their windows down and the chick in the passenger seat flashes me as they're all yelling ect.
I laughed, then I did that side to side hand gesture that means "meh/it's okay" the chick flashing me pulled her shirt down so fast and threw herself into the seat while all her friends started busting up laughing.
She was clearly offended and surprised I reacted that way at least and ever since then that's been my go to reaction, just a "ehhh" with that hand gesture.
You can tell them you've seen 10,000 pair, it means nothing to them, but tell them they're alright, or okay and that gets the point across real quick.
Your tatas have no power here! 😂
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@paladinsmith7050 🤣 did you honestly just say that?!
Dude, many pagan religions celebrated some god/goddess on the changing of the seasons, so if there's a celebration in a month then anyone who makes their own holiday on that same month is trying to replace the other?!
Do yourself a favor and think before making completely comical claims, and if you are curious about the origin of holidays, go to the source of those holidays, check their reasoning and those of the time that commented on it. Because you know dam well that other people's, cultures and political powers will say whatever they need to in order to push their agenda, be it Christian or pagan. Personally I dislike the RCC, but in their earlier years they weren't all bad, it was when they started gaining power that corruption set in and the RCC began to show political intrest which is not why the church ever existed or was intended to control.
Pagans of different groups have done the same thing to each other as well, take the "helm of awe" in the Huld Manuscript for instance.
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If I had written off relationships as a form of companionship, the only reason I would want to be with a woman is for her to provide me with children.
As far as friendship goes, I don't really have friends anyway, I enjoy my solitude, but if I need friendship I have some friends I've known for a long time, we drop off the map, then pop back up for nearly 30yrs, lifelong friends and good people.
Aside from that, a dog, a fishing rod, surf board, backpack and passport keep me content.
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In my opinion this is what a traditional wife was.
I mean how is this little blip post industrial revolution where women could stay at home and do nothing (and it wasn't even close to the majority of the population), I just call that a kitchenaid housewife.
Before the industrial revolution the majority of the work took place in homes all around the US, there wasn't a Nike or Reebok, labor wasn't centralized under corporations.
Back then work was harder and it took both to get the basics done, today any one person can take care of a house and home by themselves, though this requires a lot of relying on corporations to provide things, food for instance is so contaminated from Apeel to cattle being fed 10% beef fat and pumped with gmo corn ect. So growing your own food is as far as health goes optimal though it takes a ton of work.
That being said, women back then worked for that family unit, but that isn't needed to get by today, women don't need to work as a team to have a house or home at 19 or 50. The idea that women were oppressed by some patriarchy is false, they were oppressed by nature, even men who struck out on their own had a hard time if they lived and lived on very plain food on repeat. It would be even harder for a woman and definitely not ideal for anyone.
That to say, what I define as traditional is not where a women works, but if she is focused on building that family unit and making it flourish just as the man should. How that's done depends on their values and hopefully they agree on those.
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@shellygardner6410 there are still some to be had, but as far as the ones I know, they up and moved out of cities, one who's in her mid to late 20s lives with her mom (who's also based and taught the daughters) way out in the wilderness in Canada. They are a wild anomaly that's for sure.
But I left social media and haven't kept in contact with any of them, I'm married so there's that.
Aside from that, I'd say Eastern Orthodox Christians and maybe SSPX, those are the mainstream denominations that I've known of some very based women coming from but if you're not Christian they won't consider you.
Aside from that, it is extremely rare to find a woman who's not internalized some mainstream BS even if she hasn't engaged in it.
But it's a lot like good men, they don't put themselves out there, they aren't trying to get attention so we never see them.
I think maybe the best way to meet them would be to go to a relationship think like Love and Respect or something of that sort.
Otherwise the dudes in high school who took home economics had a good idea, if you wanna find a traditional woman, go where they go.
That's the best I could think of at this point, though it's easy to see how these 304s gone "trad" have also taken to those spaces now that they are nearing or have hit the wall and want to find a man they can continue to manipulate for a free ride.
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It's as simple as that now old? Song.
"He was a boy, she was a girl, can I make it any more obvious."
It's not always the case, but if he's not interested in her, his friendship with her would be passing at best. I'm married and not interested in some female friend I have of course, most of them are older than me by 10+yrs and I talk to them about once every 5+ months. My wife knows who they are and how I know them, plus their husband's are either mutual friends of know my situation as well.
But, men get along with other men better than women, there's nearly no point for a man to have a friendship with a woman and the main reason I have any female friends is because they are history nuts and have some fantastic information and are decent people, if they didn't have some valuable information to share, and or were not good people, I'd have nothing at all to do with them. But, I'm also happily married and even if I wasn't I had written off relationships entirely, plus I knew these women before I knew my wife, one I was friends with went a bit crazy and kept trying to contact me and get me to help her when I couldn't, it was unfortunate, but I stopped talking to her because I don't trust anyone, ever.
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@VoiceOvaGuy one of the biggest issues in modern culture, weather you're religious or not, is that nothing is sacred. Yes we need to question our preconceived notions, but we also need some degree of things considered holy/sacred or similar, things that keep us grounded, focused, sincere and genuine.
Without that, well, everything is a joke, nothing is serious yet everything is overly serious ect ect.
One of these things in my opinion is marriage: a relationship is either monogamous or not, if it's not why does it need a label? (That's done to justify promiscuity, because without it it's just promiscuity. And if every other relationship is basically equal to marriage and marriage isn't really that good of a thing then why label anything?
The fabric of society breaks down when culture has nothing sacred.
Some say they want a pure woman, but we are all born pure and are corrupted, what I think men really want is a feminine, righteous woman, purity + wisdom, because that purity will last and is far more ladylike, graceful, noble ect.
I say this because much of this kind of language (holy, sacred, righteous) are viewed today as being basically strictly religious, but that's kinda it, though I would say that the vast majority of people who are religious don't actually believe what they claim (because if you genuinely believe in a God who has standards and is just, that's a scary thing, not comforting), yet still this language in my opinion hits the nail on the head and points to a serious human issue that cannot go without being addressed.
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@VoiceOvaGuy scarry because if He has standards and is just, some, maybe even many or all will fall short, and the wrath of a angry God would be objectively terrifying.
I definitely agree with you on morals, one thing I though about years back was, even if there is not a God, morals are still quite objective to a degree, you would have to assume certain things like growth being good and death being bad, maybe how you would look at managing a ecosystem or issue hunting/fishing licenses based on how many of that species their are.
But assuming that you want a plant to grow well, you would have to give it the right amount of sun and water, not to much or to little, the proper soil composition ect.
Humans cannot be hedonistic, and still be physically and psychologically healthy, there has to be a balance. We cannot work to much or to little ect ect.
It was looking at the world through this sort of naturalist lense that led me to believe that the Christian God is real.
There are far far to many "coincidences" in Proverbs alone and I've not seen anything close to that in any other serious religion.
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Yeah, a good and based group of guy friends is important. Go to the gym, study your @$$ off, pursue your goals, have a plan, put women on the back burner till at least 23, destroy your vices, build yourself into a leader and things will sort out in time, just do not invest more attention into women than you do any single self improvement goal you have, don't date, talk but don't date, make sure you are comfortable with failure, do not be outcome dependent, challenge yourself starting with the little things, cold shower, ice bath, teach yourself to be disciplined and it WILL pay off, and when it does it will pay off real real good.
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@MisterMonsieur that's obvious yes but I think you missed my point which only drives yours further home.
Men, even simps are well aware that they can be taken to the cleaners in court or the mom just bails in which case the dad is on his own, it's not right, but what is fair?
If one of the parents dies does that parent still only have to put in 50% of the effort it takes to raise the child? Of course not, they have to do it all.
So going into parenthood with the idea that you will only ever have to do part of the parenting is stupid, either parent should be able to do 100%, so these 304s sitting here saying it's that much different and such this burden are making mountains out of mole hills.
Single fathers do it and sure it's not easy, but you don't hear them complaining on tictok telling women they need to bring their A game and such low IQ crap. This is because men accept the responsibility of parenthood period, not partial parenthood.
While the rates of divorce have gone up, women have always had this burden from their men dying in war or on the job ect. It's only the last few generations of women who are so short sighted and delusional about such circumstances that even a 19yr old simp would rather raise children on their own then to deal with the baggage of a contentious woman.
I'd actually be curious to hear from single fathers on this, which would they chose, to be a single father, or be a father along side a modern woman, though we all know where the latter ends up and so the answer is obvious it would seem.
Basically I'm just pointing out that dudes would rather be single fathers than to be with these broads even if they didn't have kids, it's hard to put into words just how absolutely delusional they are.
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@user-zn4pw5nk2v that's true but doesn't mean the opposite of it (that platitude) becomes true.
Plus there's the whole debate around happiness and such which so many modern women seem to think they are some new evolutionary exception to.
Humans, male or female need a job, a purpose, and I agree with your sentiment but one major difference between men and women is that in that stay at home state for a guy, he's going to pursue his hobbies and maybe even bring his kinds into them and turn them into a teachable thing for the kids.
Men are more prone to pursue adaptive sources of dopamine if luxury provides, whereas women are more prone to the unhealthy non adaptive sources of dopamine (think anything indulgent, coffee, social media, cocaine ect). Honestly these women that don't have to work have absolutely zero idea how good they have it even if they have had to work themselves because they don't know what it's like to not have some sort of societal benifit, be it hiring quotas or favoritism in the workplace or education system.
This modern soyciety is designed for the domesticated and to domesticate, it is destructive towards boys and raises obedient, docile men, so even when working women just don't have a conceptual understanding of what it's like to go through that same system as a man. Nora Vincent only got a small taste of the social atmosphere and she self deleted over it.
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@jimmcneal5292 maybe extreme is a poor description, what I mean by that is his more narrow focus on wealth accumulation. It could use more balance because while it's important to always grow in that respect, that is ultimately a battle that only a handful will ever be truly successful, the Rothschilds/Vanguard/Blackrocks of the world. However since we have to engage in that world in order to survive, we should be good at it to some degree, but it shouldn't be our sole or even primary focus and it is making its one sole or primary focus that benifits those in control of it all the most, but we will always be playing a losing game in that regard and if you get to good at it (if that's even possible) you'll end up missing or magically self delete like you had dirt on the Clinton's style.
So focusing to much on that is just a good way to go insane and lose out on the more meaningful aspects of life.
Balance is important and so extreme is a bad descriptor, but maybe he needs to be a little more foundational. I would say it's important, even unto death, to live according to virtues, one example might be strength, mental and physical, this would encompass many things including wealth, but wealth would not be the point and so it would simply become a tool and a metric to measure your strength in that regard.
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@someone-ji2zb preach king!
That being said I agree 100%, not to mention instead of wasting that time and energy on women the young men would be spending it on personal growth, physical, financial, spiritual ect and be in a much better position in life, and as what was normal and still is in many places, when mom and dad get old you take them in (no CNAs beating your parents in their old age) and they impart their wisdom to your children as they grow, grandparents can be fantastic in this way, they add to the familial life, grandma with her recipes and help around the house, grandpa with his light hearted mentoring of the boys and teaching them how to build things.
That multi-generational structure worked amazingly and it's a shame much of the west has lost its mind and bent itself on hedonism and self idolatry. The insecurities simultaneously being thick in the air. It's sad all around, maybe some day when things have gotten bad enough people will realize they should return to Christ.
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This broad.
Aside from her continual interruptions, she shows her self to be illiterate in the very writings shes trying to use to her advantage, the first commandment is not to love your neighbor, its not either to love generally, it is "...to love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your might and all your strength and to lean not on your own understanding but in all your ways acknowledge Him..."
Ie; recognize and love God above all.
This is emphasized even further when Jesus said "any who love their father or mother, son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."
In other words, loving God is the most important thing, period, this means a desire to do what will be pleasing to Him, to obey Him and to put Him first.
By doing this, you are held accountable to how He says you need to interact with others, your husband or wife, your children, your parents, siblings, neighbors ect.
NOT some vague, worldy, love is love propaganda that tries to make a morally androgynous society which ultimately will worship self like any narcissist, which is Satanism.
"I just cheated cause I needed to love myself"
"Im divorcing you cause you dont make ME happy"
"The kids stress Me out so I just abandoned them at ny parents"
"I blew our rent money on a self care day cause life is just so stressful lately."
Yeah, what a functional model for society...(not).
Love you say? What is your love without grace? What is your love effort?
If you love yourself more than everyone else, then you simply cannot comprehend what love actually is.
If love is just this feeling of oxytocin that never manifests in self sacrifice which includes discipline in some way, then you dont love that person, you love how they make YOU feel.
Thats not love, that's narcissism and when that kind of a person gets married, they WILL get divorced.
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This is something that always makes me giggle. I think science is great, but I can think of 1000 better things for scientists to be working on other than how to enable 304s to be 304s and then settle down later which the ability to have children at 50 is the least of their concerns.
I mean imagine frying your dopamine pool for 40yrs just to think you'll be able to pair bond with your own child, as if your endocrine system will be even a ghost of what it once was.
It's psychos like that who end up rejecting their babies or throwing them off bridges.
If you can't get over yourself and work with a grown adult, then having children who are completely irrational is not for you. They simply are not sensitive enough for it even though I'm sure they think they are the most sensitive.
Plus stats on this are telling, a child raised by a single father has the same likelihood of going to jail, getting hooked on drugs and dropping out of school as a child raised in a whole household with both parents, it's only when it is a single mom that things take a downward trend...
In other words, men are better with children. Something wild to consider about these stats, is it didn't matter how good or bad that father was, just him being present.
Another wild thing is how when a daughter spends time with her dad (and can smell him) often, it will delay the onset of puberty as opposed to if she is not around her father, in which case if she spends time around (and can smell) a male who has already gone through puberty, it will cause her to enter into puberty.
There are a few reasons this is important but one is actually height, the further out puberty is (naturally) the more time the longbones have to grow. Melatonin also regulates this and inhibits puberty which is why those Nordic people are so damn tall, long dark days, lots of Melatonin produced in childhood, in the mid 1800s the average age for a female to enter puberty was 17yrs old. In the US now it's somewhere around 7.
The future is short as shit.
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First chick honestly just looks like a middle class 304.
No ring, revealing clothing, on tictok recording how she's getting so much more than the average 304 while using a dude for his money and having "high standards" on top of saying there's nothing wrong with chick's chasing the "bad boys"...
I've known women like this, one dude worked for this bank that made the position for him, absolutely rich, nice big 3 story house, wife wouldn't even let him have a dog and her two sons were regularly trying to kill each other, not kidding, they were both under 10yrs old, horrible mother, simp of a father, self centered woman.
But as long as she had that money she was staying until she could take half his shit and run.
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It's actually stupid easy to lead dude. First as for a date, just pick somewhere YOU want to eat, basically it's just a excuse to eat at your favorite place or just a place you enjoy.
If she dosent like it, then I guess you could pay, otherwise she should've spoken up and picked the place.
As far as other aspects of leadership, if a woman won't follow, then you can't lead her, women keep saying they want a man to take initiative but that they don't want to submit, complete contradiction.
So basically, you just live your life and bring her for the ride, if she gets contentious then you kick her to the curb.
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@daviddrabick9018 yeah it's kinda funny that these liberals always try to lump all women in with them, trying to convince all women that they are all oh so targeted and it's only a matter of time before the evil patriarchy gets them! The patriarchy is their boogeyman.
I'm a married man and you could ask my wife what kind of company I am, you could try to convince her to leave me for a simp, but she sees the world clearly and sees these 304s for exactly what they are, damaged, coping for their damage instead of actually correcting their own flaws, then crying about how men have the audacity to have standards, they try to gaslight the passport bros even though that's nothing new, but they do it to the degree that the show how ignorant, uncultured and racist they are. The problem could never be that they are wrapped up in some BS fantasy and guys just want a real girlfriend who didn't download her whole personality off of some cringe Netflix romcom. Obviously, men who want a woman who's down to earth and not insecure are just abusive womanizers 🤣.
Welp, I guess that's what they wanted, sexual liberation and completely screwed up oxytocin signaling, just to cope with stimulants and end up with dopamine levels through the floor leading to chronic depression, anxiety and meds that make it worse.
But they don't know anything about the science they claim to believe in, even though it's literally everywhere.
Uhgg, it's wild man, ultimately I am just really happy I have a wife who has her head on straight and enjoys learning as much as I do and can have some good conversation on all sorts of topics, that's a hell of a lot more than 99% of these "educated" alcoholics can say.
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Not only that, but also just don't be contentious. When a woman takes a argumentative/opposing stance towards you she's overtly disrespecting you. It's one thing to disagree and talk about the best way forward/solution, but when her attitude becomes opposed to you, that is the beginning of the end if you don't nip it in the ass and it seems this kind of thing had to have been present before she is overtly disrespectful towards you in public or private.
I like a saying from the John Wayne movie The Quiet Man (great movie by the way), this little Irishman says "when I drink whiskey, I drink whiskey and when I drink water, I drink water."
In the context he was being literal, but I applied that to the friends/enemies dynamic, either we're friends, we're nothing more than associated (or I just don't even know you exist) or we're enemies. I don't do that friend enemies crap, never mix the two, she can either work with you, or work against you, and if she decides to work against you and dosent accept correction on that, then she's chosen where she wants to be and it ain't by your side or on your team.
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She reveals to much which tells me she lacks dignity and self respect along with a critical mind and morals.
She seems soft and somewhat feminine but the absence of modest raises a red flag, does this lack of critical thinking and dignity spill over into other parts of her life and if so, to what degree.
Considering the modern day, I wouldn't be surprised to find out she has a OF, though because of her softer appearance it might lead one to believe she hasn't accumulated much baggage I think that's very false and is a very real possibility.
It's likely she was raised mildly conservative or maybe just middle class and so appreciates that less than section 8 look. But humans are not called snakes at times because they appear to have scales (though Zuckerberg may be a exception).
I'll continue watching now.
2:02 ahh, yup, not to surprised.
Maybe I'm just cynical, but I don't see women as having much moral standards, no matter how they look, I would argue that men as a general rule have higher moral standards because we are more things focused and less people focused, so we are more likely to be overt and apathetic to what others think of us.
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@ktulu3767 if shame encourages positive change then why does the slutwalk and fat acceptance movement exist?
It SHOULD encourage positive change, but in the day and age when many people cannot differentiate between right and wrong and confuse conviction and discernment for judgement, it's no wonder they run from accountability and assume all negative feelings must be illegitimate.
And therein lies the issue with modern society, they think morality is subjective, when even from a naturalist perspective it literally cannot be. Water a plant to much and it will get root rot and die, water it to little and it will drop leaves and fruit if not entirely die. There is a balance to be struck in all of nature which if it is not, death comes faster.
From a Biblical perspective, sin is the root cause of death, pain and suffering, God's laws exist to do one primary thing, show us how to live in His way that He would be glorified through our obedience and submission to the disciplines of His ways.
When we look at dopamine and what is adaptive VS what is non adaptive we see not only a need for balance, but also that some things are simply objectively and scientifically proven to be unhealthy. And when we look at the world's solutions (take medication for anxiety and depression for instance) they actually compound the issue and make it worse, the real solution is discipline and striking that balance then of adaptive behaviors while mitigating as best we can the non adaptive behaviors. But the world genuinely hates that, they would rather indulge until they die a early and miserable death, to "live fast and die young".
This issue is revealed to a much greater degree when looking at the world's solutions for shame/guilt/fear VS Biblical. Not trying to be a Bible thumper, but it's obviously true when you look at the science and the teachings and contrast the modern solutions, of which there is a incredible disconnect between the science and the applied medical and psychological solutions.
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Maybe not aggressive per say but without fear and with absolute authority. The dog must obey you, or be put in it's place just like the leader of any pack would do.
The reason I split hairs here is because if you go all out, the dog will sense this and knowing it is in legitimate danger it will refuse to submit out of fear that you won't show mercy. If you give it that way out though while showing authority they will often submit and tone their own aggression down faster and more readily.
Though, in this situation, that authority would suit you better in regard to protecting your turf and pack which the dog is well aware it is in the act of invading and attacking, in this case if you pursue the dog will outrun, you have to play the cards right, act slightly non aggressive/authoritative and then when it comes within reach grab it, beat the crap out of it and pin it to the ground, on its back or side with its stomach exposed and it's head pinned with its throat exposed and hold it there until it stops struggling and submits.
By doing this you're defending your pack and turf, dominating it, and leaving it with a painful message to stay off your turf and away from your pack from then on. And of course that is only if the dog lives, which in this case I would say would be unwise.
Dogs know the difference between a adult and child and that dog picked your human child as a target, it should be put down.
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@solimine1007 for thousands of years corporations weren't a thing and Amazon wasn't delivering to your doorstep, women have for the vast majority of history worked like mules and men had to do the heavy lifting, but women's work was 1000× harder 300yrs ago than it is today.
That union worked well for each other, a man could scrape by on his own sure, but with no time to spare to make a home.
A woman would take that house and make it into a home with no small effort, but that is not why she was submissive.
A woman cannot love a man she does not respect.
If you tell a man he is responsible for something, but do not relinquish control of that thing, who holds the accountability for that thing?
Girlfriends don't get wife benifits, if they don't like that then that's totally OK! Best of luck! But don't go on saying you want a man to lead and be decisive whilst simultaneously being to insecure to follow, if you don't trust or respect him, that is what you need to address and decide if that is a you problem, or if he is not a respectable man.
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This is one reason why I don't like the whole tradwife BS.
Because the vast majority of history the vast majority of women weren't cooking on gas stoves, vacuuming nicely carpeted floors or hardwood floors with a swiffer, the house wasn't heated or lit with electricity and so on.
Women were not just cooking, cleaning and taking care of baby, they were working their assess off.
Only until about the 1900s did these things become a luxury with the industrial revolution leading to mass production and even then most didn't have most of those things until just prior to the 1950s when we began to see mass advertisement for those luxuries, and that is just in the western world.
That aside, even the Biblical description of the ideal woman (the woman of virtue) is doing a ton of work from buying land to planting vinyards, doing so much work to the point it says her arms are made strong.
That being said, there has to be a balance. If you require to little, she will have to much time and will lose respect for you. Every single human needs adaptive stressors in their lives or we begin to atrophied, morally, physically and intellectually, we are designed to work and stay busy and to have goals and a purpose.
By saying a guy needs to make X amount in the context of dating, you're falling into their trap of having to be materialistic and provide a life of materialism in order to be worthy, and while I recognize that abundance is great, it can also be very destructive, one look at the western world proves this to be the case, even looking at history and myth and its obvious this is a well known and well documented fact about humans.
Obviously, men should always seek to make the most of all their efforts, but NOT to the end of appeasing a woman's materialism.
Now though we have all these women who saw the rise of this "tradwife" movement, see that it offers maximum benifit with the lowest investment and responsibility and suddenly we've got all these women who want to be tradwives just as much a a woman who's hit the wall...
They changed their tactics but their agenda is the same.
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@IvanIvanov-tn2iw this is something that 304s and simps alike, along with more than just those two, sometimes fail to understand. Relationships are first and foremost work because everyone wants that quick dopamine fix and when they don't get it things get "boring".
But not sure if people have notice the pattern yet, people who always have to have that stimulation end up depressed and broken, it's as simple as understanding that with every dopamine hit (literally including things like a pay raise at work or getting a like on FB) there comes a trough, if you stack these up you get a progressively decreased dopamine base line.
That's what these 304s keep chasing and why they can't just stick with one dude.
But, I will say this, men should aspire to be as great as they can in as many ways as they can, focus on the effort and not the outcome even if the outcome is ideal (that's a dopamine hit, bring yourself back down to earth and keep working), however men are all depressed, they feel apathetic like what's the point of trying because the outcome isn't what they want. (Again, why you focus on the effort) in this guy's are notorious for confusing depression with contentment when they are just not in a great place and could easily be in a much better place if they just put in the effort.
Like if you aren't gonna get a woman anyway, why whine about it? Shift your focus to something that is going to bring you joy, have a goal and just enjoy the journey and the work, become a modern day warlord just cause what else is there to do. And if you don't get there at least you had fun, and if you do get there, well use that power for good and keep on growing.
But all this apathetic crap has to go, women aren't the world and they ultimately aren't gonna make you happy, they can bring you happiness maybe, but more likely than not it's the stress they bring that will stick out.
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Hit the gym, get your finances together, develop multiple incomes, be introspective and work on yourself, find a tribe to be part of, a good group of guys of like mind with goals. Challenge yourself, first in small ways (Cold showers, going on hikes) and ease into bigger things (save a certain amount, invest a certain amount, create a passive income).
As you grow, don't let anyone derail you, don't flex or brag, be critical about who you give your time and attention to.
You got this King and I've been there, but we all die some day, few of us really live, and life is all fight so embrace that fight, embrace that struggle, because it's that struggle that makes us stronger so long as you never give up.
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If you get cheated on and do not IMMEDIATELY walk, you are a cuck.
Don't hesitate, don't even have a talk about it because she didn't give a shit about you then, why would she give a shit in a argument? She will only care about keeping things in her favor and if another dude comes along that she can monkey branch to she's gonna leave you anyway.
If you stay, you are shitting on your own head in public with a smile on your face, that is essentially what you're doing.
How can you expect others to respect you when you can't even respect yourself?!
Stop being a clingy cuck and get on your purpose, go minimalist, get your diet, sleep schedule, exercise regiment and network on point and get established in that before even thinking about women. Don't even look at porn, get them out of your head and rage lift.
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Man not many have simped like I have in the past, got guns pulled on me cause she got me into fights-stayed, she broke a liquor bottle over the back of my head cause I didn't want to argue-still stayed, lost all my friends cause she dragged them into the drama-still stayed, massive amounts of arguments and overt gaslighting-still stayed.
It's been a while and I've learned so much, wish these kinds of channels were around back then, but I'm doing good now and so I'll say this, the sooner you stop simping, the sooner you'll get your peace back, if that means being completely and utterly alone, it's still far far better to be alone and on your purpose than to simp even once.
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@ryann6919 one thing I would say though, actually two things. 1: don't be black pilled, there are still good women, but they are incredibly rare and you need to understand how to vet them and how to lead them.
2: create a good network of male friends, ones that are your age, ones that are older and wiser, it's that network that will help you in life immensely in multiple ways.
Just some additional things I would seriously recommend that will help with that second point and help you get more joy out of life as well. 1:take Muay thai. 2: take up 3 gun competitions, find a gun store and talk to the people to see what's around you and how you would go about that and what is required. 3: get a gym membership and sit in the sauna often, you'll not only meet people who are business owners ect but it's also super good for your body and quite passive and enjoyable, always feels good after. 4: get good sleep. 5: read/watch documentaries on men like Alexander the Great and others like him, men who will inspire you.
And last but most certainly not least 6: understand that your identity will impact you a lot more than you realize, not this modern gender BS, but literally who you are now, ie: you are a man, you are of ___ ethnicity, you're a brother, son, ect and operate not from a place of desires, but of duty. Be sure, your preferred political party, the nation you live in ect, these are not who you are, they are false identities with endless "battles" that in the end are made to distract you from being simply a good and strong man. Devote your life to duty and principles and seek to increase your strength in all ways, retain a pure and strong spirit, because it is wrong for a man to be weak and we can all be stronger.
If you do these things, single or not, you will look back 10, 20, 30yrs from today and you will be proud of yourself.
As a last note, observe your tendencies and shape your environment into one that increases your likelihood of doing what you know you should, yes be disciplined, but understand that your environment will determine so many of the behaviors in your day to day life, if you surround yourself with certain people and things, those are the people and things that will take your time and influence your character.
Considering all that is happening, it would be a shame if men take this time they have and do nothing with it, when now is the time to be men and to grow.
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@sofiya9212 if we were a normal society is a bold statement.
I'm a millennial and my grandpa was the man of the house at 9yrs old, completely responsible for bringing the food home or his family would starve.
My friends grandpa was kicked out of home at that same age and started working his first job very shortly after.
If we lived in a healthy society, physically grown adults wouldn't behave as they do, I can't even say children because children less than 100yrs ago were more logical and responsible than most adults today.
She is not simply legally a adult, she is physically as well, the fact that you don't respect that she can make informed decisions of her own is either sharing my sentiment above in which case removing freedom is not the solution, or you're simply jealous of her and or hate him.
What both of them really need are some decent values, but they are who they are and both will suffer for it. No one is feeling sorry for either of them because they will never develop deep personal connections and in the end will die alone, while possibly rich, it won't fill that void.
But the pendulum will swing and I have no desire to stop it, but let it follow its usual course. I'm not aware of any culture which has fallen to the depths the west has and has come back from it unscathed, and that is entirely deserved.
This girl is a feminist and she will get what she deserves for that. Neither of them will understand the good that is a deep personal connection and I think that's a fitting punishment.
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@nikkiidomagala when I was 19 I heard that women will be more attracted to married men, so I did a experiment. I bought a cheap gold band and wore it for 2 weeks before returning it.
In those two weeks I had more women approach me in the entire year prior.
The second stage of this experiment was to sneakily let slip that I was single, not actually married and see how they reacted. Half immediately stopped talking to me and by the end of the second week none talked to me.
It was then that I realized all these 304s that had talked to me were egotistical and just trying to see if they could steal another woman's man. It dawned on me then, "do I look desperate to you?" "Do I look like I don't have the balls to leave a bad relationship or turn it around?" "Do you take me for a simp?" "Do you really think I'm going to be in a relationship with someone that I don't care about and that my loyalty can be so easily bought?"
When a person disrespects your significant other, they are DIRECTLY and indirectly disrespecting you and your significant other at the same time.
That is of course unless you are any of those things then you just have shame.
So I absolutely agree with you, I think the only area of a differing approach is how we respond and the reason I respond the way I do is simple, in order for society to come back from this low that it is in, that kind of behavior needs to be shamed. I know a lot of people are afraid of being called judgmental, intolerant ect but frankly I am intolerant of bad behavior and society is of some behavior like theft, murder ect it's just societies standards are low and dropping lower, the only way to stop it is to push back against it and I think the responsibility for that lies mostly on men's shoulders though they may not even be primarily at fault, but it is simply how social and societal dynamics very clearly work be it in one on one interactions or voting patterns, it's evident top to bottom.
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@XXNerdzillaXX I absolutely agree though personally I still put more responsibility and thus guilt/burden on the man because men tend to be more oriented towards logic and problem solving. Though I know this issue especially today is persistent, that dosent mean that it is ideal, that men often do not have a clear or articulate understanding of how to lead or work through many issues.
In some cases there is nothing a man could do to bring resolution to a breaking relationship, but those I think are actually the minority of relationships that end up broken.
Because if a man is leading well and commanding respect in a healthy way, there is nearly no chance at all a woman would want to break up.
It's when a man cannot lead that a woman will go from respecting him, to no longer respecting him and thus separating on a emotional level.
It does take two to tango as it were, but men are generally, with very very few exceptions, meant to be leaders.
Women are hyperganous for this reason, they have to be careful as they desire security, this stems from a need for that security, while men suffer (maybe not the best word) from no such insecurities (also maybe not the best descriptor but I think you see my point).
The issue is when distrust on either end begins, just like any people and their government, when the people start to distrust the government, the government has to lead very well in order to regain that trust and bring the people back into harmony, if they (the government) cannot do this, a total breakdown will inevitably occur.
The biggest issues though that I see in modern relationships is not that there was a breakdown though, but rather they were built while disregarding (usually due to simply being unaware) of basic relationship dynamics and the role that each would play, largely due to modern propaganda on this, and insecurities either because of past bad decision making (on either or more commonly both parties part) and or preconceived notions of the other.
It becomes nearly impossible then to correct a degrading relationship that was not founded with a mutual understanding of these relationship dynamics and the role each party would play in that relationship, which unfortunately makes up the majority of modern relationships.
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Hey man, I was doing the same thing when I was your age.
I HIGHLY advise you to save, invest, but gold, in fact I'm gonna dare you to put $100.00 aside for a few things over the next month.
1: Gold, 2: a house, 3: some investment which could include a retirement fund if you don't already have one.
Getting started is the hardest part but don't worry about it to much, just set that aside in a envelope, even if it's just $10.00. I promise you, time FLYS!
Additionally I'm gonna challenge you to find at least one way to invest in yourself and increase your ability, be it going to school to get your helicopter pilots license or helicopter mechanic certs, or by finding all the benifits you can get out of the company you work for and getting every single cent out of it as you can to improve your standing.
If you do these things, by the time you're 38yrs old you'll be doing ridiculously good!
Don't try to figure it all out, just pick a direction and pull the trigger, figure it out as you go and don't forget to enjoy the process.
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As a smoker let me be the first to say it's not shallow at all. Smoking is shit, it's a pain to stop, it stinks, tastes like crap ect. A waste of money and a hell of a challenge to quit. It's impulsive and fucks with dopamine, causes oral thrush (candida overgrowth), low back pain and the list goes on.
I want to be fit, strong and healthy, it is absolutely not superficial but absolutely fundamental.
It is a weakness, a sign of weakness, and utterly undignified, undisciplined and lacks all self respect.
It is a sign of deeper issues (why did a smoker even start?).
So yeah, no, from someone who's honest with themselves about it, it is not superficial or shallow at all. You were right to have those standards.
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I wasn't going to respond to this because there's not much that can really be said, obviously nothing can make that suffering go away, but the reason I do respond is because of this.
When we hold grudges, even ones that are completely justified, it disturbs our peace, even if we don't think about it the majority of the time, it IS part of our identity, the way we respond and react to it are from the perspective of the age we were when it happened, not from our current perspective, and we carry that baggage with us and it unfortunately effects us, even if we are aware of how it influences our behavior and emotions to this day, we cannot heal while holding on, and, healing is the ultimate justice for you.
Regardless of if you heal or not, is seems clear to me that we all will be held accountable for what we have done in this life, otherwise why do humans have issues with self discipline but animals live by nature? It's not because of iq because there are a lot of people with lower iq than some animals (obviously there is more to intelligence than iq), but to me this paints the picture of a spiritual (of sorts) battle.
In any case, regardless of if you are religious or not, it is clear that when we give those things up, when we let it go, we heal and are raised up.
You should be proud of your hard work, you should love yourself but obviously not to any narcissistic degree, love though, like a parent should love a child.
When we are kids, ideally our parents discipline and teach us, but when we are out on our own, we have to be our own parent, love yourself like you love a child, and though this love you can let go of that pain, because there is no question of if you are strong or not, you've proven that clearly.
And, it's not just important to heal for yourself, but so that you are made more able to influence those around you for good.
Many of us have reasons why we can be bitter, many of us have been hurt, but if we want to build a better world where such things don't happen to others, we need to let go of our pain (without obviously losing perspective of the evil that we and others have suffered) and focus on building a world that is wholesome, and you absolutely cannot have a wholesome world without having justice which will be done.
Pain begets bitterness begets hate begets pain and the cycle goes on.
Righteousness is in proper measure grace and justice and justice will always be done.
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Honestly it seems modern education beats the love of learning out of most, so beyond a college degree for the purpose of money making most stop learning unless it's BS that strokes their egos.
What's funny is all these college educated women demanding a cultured man yet say passport bros are preying on uneducated women... yet those same "educated" women are still "finding themselves", meanwhile it's been the least educated women who seem to know the most and always have something new to add to conversations since they continue to learn because they enjoy it.
My wife for instance, though she is college educated because I sent her to school, continues to learn and we have conversations about nutrition, the economy, politics, culture, the endocrine system, the environment ect.
Yet these college educated chick's rarely know anything about any of those but can tell you all about the newest pop culture drama and even within their own fields of study miss the forest for the trees.
Basically I can tell which women are college educated and which are not based on their conversation. College educated women are superficial and obsessed with Hollywood, those that are not are more conservative and its obvious.
Yet those women I know that are not college educated often talk about health and nutrition, politics and the political environment, maybe they talk about home decor and such or diy projects they've been working on or they talk about family, they also tend to have more hobbies and are more willing to do physical things, not to mention are far less emotionally fragile and can actually disagree without flipping their lid.
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@irfanjames6551 they only resent you if you don't give them some attention here and there AND if they don't have to invest.
Think of it like this, let's say you buy a old car, like a Datsun or the like, nothing special but kinda cool, you spend 3yrs working on it, rebuilding the engine, doing the body work, getting new tires ect, you invest your time, attention and energy in to it.
Then one day you see a old mustang, camero, corvette or the like for a reasonable price, dosent quite need as much work, but you can only have one.
Which are you gonna go with? The one you know and are familiar with and have invested time and energy in to to make it your own? Or the other one and start the process over?
And if that transition was a risk?
We come to love the things we put our effort in to and that is where we derive our self worth from.
Women who put their effort into makeup and looks will value those things more than they value the man that falls into their laps.
Women who put the effort into their husband, children and home while receiving a little attention and praise for their efforts (focus on efforts, not on them) are going to be a lot less likely to leave.
But many many men have not done this, gen-x and boomers were massive simps partly because they could be, partly because it worked to get laid more than today and partly because they were raised in a gynocentric culture as well and didn't understand how destructive that undeserved and luxurious life of ease would be to a woman.
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A father is a man, and he was chased away by a feminist wife.
Meanwhile that wife then went on to tell younger women to "know their worth" who then inflated their ego and repeated the steps.
My dad neglected to teach me about women because he was to busy trying to keep my mom from leaving. She left anyway, I thought it was my dads fault at first and for around 7yrs after, then as I began to learn what happened i realized it was entirely my mom falling for feminist BS.
And my dad is a chad, 6ft, made 6 figures, muscular, not fantastic looking but better than many his age, very intelligent and wise.
My moms biggest issue was he wouldnt sit there and listen to her whine about pointless BS without giving her advice, which is the equivalent of telling a mom not to attend to her screaming baby. Men are built to build and fix things, if you tell a man to ignore his desire to make your life better just so you can be vain, you're the problem, not him.
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See this is where my mind has gone recently.
We all need to be leveling up, myself included, i would like to be a help to men out there who are serious about leveling up, but can only help so much (not much at all) and so I gotta level up first.
If I saw that dude come in even one time to my gym, I'd be talking with him, I'd be trying to learn as much as I can, I would absolutely do my best to vacuum up any info and help he had to give and do my damndest to reciprocate.
A car is a easy ice breaker and hes the one bringing it, if he's willing, I want to surround myself with people stronger than me, smarter than me, more successful than me, that way I can learn and grow and do better in any and every way possible. Funny cause they say as you age you slow down but thats absolutely not the case for me, if anything i have more energy, drive and discipline than ever before plus a lot more information than I had when I was 19, in a better headspace, know how to leverage stress and turn it into a strength and tap in to that endless supply of masculine energy.
If I could give any advice to all guys out there, young or old, is to build up a group of good men of all ages around you, approach them, talk to them, be bluntly honest as to why you want to talk to them and what you hope to gain. Ive spoken with a lot of older gentlemen who have been left alone, wife divorced them, kids went off to college and never came back, so dude is sitting there with multiple properties, no debt, but also, few if any friends or anyone to pass their wisdom or knowledge on to.
Its stupid because boomers and gen-x had a ton of potential, worked hard, economy wasn't completely fucked, they put in the work and accumulated a lot over their years, just to have feminism come in and take the people that they did all that for.
They didnt have internet, no YT, no red pill, so when feminism came in there was no real opposition to it and it wreaked havoc uncontrollably.
We could all play the blame game, or we can work together to create a future that might not suck as bad for future boys and men, and if anyone is going to lead any nation towards positive change, it will ONLY be the men.
So tribe up!
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Thing is men need to grow a spine and slap back, obviously not towards all women, not towards women at all, but towards degeneracy in all including other men. In order for this to happen, things need to get worse, when they get worse men will continue to stand up of their own accord, we're out here for each other, we don't need to be coddled, we need to become disciplined monsters of strength and virtue. Griffin out here making men great again! He's genuinely a hero, this kind of stuff is what saves young men from making horrible decisions, hopelessness and suicide.
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@johnsampson6387 maybe that's what this can boil down to, with guys at least. I love being in the water, surfed through my teen years, went cliff jumping, wound up on a swim team ect.
Went to Hawaii twice and quit smoking both times cause I couldn't stay out of the water and would go out swimming for about 3hrs at a time, come back in, try to smoke, felt like crap, went back out and felt like I was gonna drown for about 20minutes before starting to feel better. So I have a bit of a affinity with water, but combine that with cold showers/baths and the dopamine spike you get from it and I just really like being in water. So that definitely plays a role in it for me, if I hadn't done or didn't enjoy those things as much as I do I probably wouldn't like showers as much as I do, even a short shower is nice, though baths take to long so I probably take a bath once every three years or so.
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@macadamia668 I will measure any species by the same metrics. If a human fails to mate as biology dictates, then there is some issue. To determine that issue is quite easy, humans are not the complex creatures they like to believe they are (in order to justify their lack of understanding and or shortcomings, real or perceived).
In "perfect" conditions, all humans would happily mate. In perfect conditions, all humans would care for their offspring and in perfect conditions all humans would maintain a mate. To deny this is to deny basic biology usually justified by psychological and or social conditions that are not perfect or ideal.
These things are obvious to anyone not wearing baggage with an ounce of objectivity, so "know it all"? Absolutely not, but do I understand the basics better than most?
Without a doubt.
Call it arrogance all you like, but that is a mute claim unless you can prove the above wrong.
And you said it yourself, "its the lack of mind games..." this is a social issue which in its absence leaves younger women far more attractive, but what role does hypergamy play in womens vetting process for security which they are biologically wired to attain? Is that inherently bad? Or is it infidelity that is the issue?
There are those who react, and those who understand, the difference between the two is vage to those who react, and stark to those who understand.
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@ethosterros9430 you're not the only one brother. I know a lot of guys, myself included that fall into that category, though I refuse to say that I have trauma or the like, it has indeed had very negative rippling effects through my life, but I see those things as done and over, in the past and now I have to sort out how I could've responded in a way that would've been better/good and observe how those things altered my perspectives and behaviors, perspectives is the most important though behaviors are the red flag, because it is your perspective, the lense through which you see the world that gets you into bad situations in the present. So you have to sort of be a coach to your past childhood self and think about/guide a proper and healthy response that would yield a positive or the most positive outcome and work forward from each negative/traumatic event to the present, then be aware of the skewed lense you now wear and work to get it to conform to reality and not how you might feel.
Therapy dosent do this, because most therapists don't even know how to see the world through a objective lense, and today most talk of objective reality is met with some modernist "my truth" BS or some other moral relativist/subjective reality propaganda that's meant to keep you from growing beyond those horrible events.
You have to be compassionate yet firm with yourself when solving these issues, like a good father would be when training his son to take on life as a adult.
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@mikeabcable yes and no.
I think it's important to define love, if it's just a strong feeling, a release of oxytocin then these 304s and players live those they play.
But if it is the behaviors that stem from those feelings combined with a higher functioning mind (as opposed to strictly primal) meaning dedication, loyalty, respect even when it is not easy ect. Then men and women both have the same capacity, however men have a greater tendency due to modern gynocentric conditioning of both.
So I'd say it's not that they cannot, it's just that it is incredibly rare and it takes one who controls their impulses to even begin to have the ability to love.
For us though, when we love, we do things for those we love, they though are told by modern culture that doing for those they love is somehow demeaning or degrading, which completely contradicts traditional western ideals of leadership and strength, two things they love to claim they are able to do yet lack the facilities to even understand at least the vast majority.
I would say the number of women who understand this and live it globally is likely under six figures and they will be some of the least noticed women in the world except to those in their immediate circle, family/friends and such.
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Keep on your purpose man, always be building yourself, work on developing a network of intelligent friends and mentors who will help you grow. It's really quite true what they say about becoming like the 5 people you spend the most time around, better to have no friends than 5 bad ones.
Track your progress and have solid metrics for determining where you're at and develop a good plan for where you want to go, but don't think to long on it and not act.
I would highly recommend listening to the Huberman Labs podcast with Dr Andy Galpin, they are long and there are like 6 of them, but Andy's take on developing a good fitness plan applies to a lot more than just fitness and is very smart.
And, watch out for traps in life, things that will trigger dopamine that are not good (sugar, drugs, porn ect.) Two things I recommend on this which are very useful information to help you build motivation and turn it into discipline in a very smart way are the Huberman Labs podcast titled Optimize and Leverage Dopamine, and off of that another that is very enlightening, though it may seem repetitive and or unnecessary, is the Easy Peasy Method to Quit porn, it's a hackbook and discusses addiction which is far more widespread and a much easier trap to fall in to than most people realize, it's on Spotify if you have one.
If you listen to these I promise you, you will become much more effective at everything you put your mind to.
Also try out Andrew Hubermans morning routine, you can find it on YT, lots of good info in there to help you start every day off strong.
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Depends on what your definition of normal is and who the guy is.
A friend once asked me what percentage of women in the US I thought were worth trying to date, not even wife material, at the time I said maybe 3%, our younger friend said 15%, and the friend who asked and was older than both of us said .05%
As time passed I agreed with him and moved that percentage, I think .05% might be a ok sample size but out of that those that are marriage material are probably closer to .005% or less.
Though I don't date based on appearances, I'll hang out as friends and get to know her, her family, her friends for at least 3 months, if at that point in time I don't know, then I already know.
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@nickthompson1812 19-26 is for working your tail off. It's often wasted on vvomen rather than training and building.
But 26 is still young and it seems like a few months since I was 26 and I'm now about to turn 34.
Without hope you will lack motivation, but 26 is still young, don't waste any time entertaining hopelessness, you have learned valuable lessons with many more to come, many of which will come easier and the more you learn the easier they come.
Don't allow lies spread by those who hate you to distort objective reality; ifbyou just keep working and focus on getting good at the fundamentals, the future is only going to get better.
You have a brain, you have your hands, these two things do what they do, the brain will learn regardless of what you want or think, that's just what it does, so that alone means you will aquire knowledge.
That knowledge will be applied by your hands at least a little, and so to some degree you will increase.
Apply yourself to these two things and there is only one outcome, that what you are not capable of today, you may be capable of tomorrow. That is the norm and you can see it with the majority of older men. So if that is the norm, what else is there other than hope?
Again, don't let those who hate you, convince you that you cannot achieve the goals you aim to.
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@HiddenOcelot they can't. Insecurities drive hypergamy. Basically, women are always on the defense and as a result it goes against their nature to think about others wants, needs or feelings. The ONLY exception to this is if they have been taught by their father, but mothers don't and can't teach this for above reasons.
In addition to this, it's also because they are always on the defense and in that self centered mindset that they fail so badly at raising boys, when they think of how a man should be, "chivalry" is the only thing they can come up with, I put it in quotations because what it really is, is gynocentric conditioning.
These boys then grow up and give women what their mothers taught them to, and surprise surprise, women friendzone them because they are to nice, to agreeable and don't come off as strong, because to a woman, nothing conveys strength like brute force, it's why they so often fall for murderers like Ted bundy, sure he's a killer, but he's her killer... that's how their emotions work, no logic at all.
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I trust no one. At least, I do not trust anyone entirely.
We are all human, we all have our impulsive nature and as the saying goes "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".
I find many of these older sayings to be very accurate, notice it says "...intentions...", it's saying the person intended, genuinely meant well.
That being said, there is a level of trust that is required for society to function, for relationships to function.
Trust is built with transparency over time, reliably revealing good character.
Another thing I say often is that any man who can take a look at the world and what is going on in it and see objectively, who is not immediately engaged, is not a moral man. I won't go down the path of explaining why I believe this because it covers some very sensitive subjects and exposes widespread indoctrination, however with that said, it is only sensible for anyone to approach a unproven person today with a healthy dose of skepticism, yet still common courtesy.
I have two rules in me and my wife's relationship.
1: if we argue, resolution must be the goal, if we are competing, the argument stops immediately and we evaluate ourselves and what we want, then return with cooled tongues and speak in a forthright manner.
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2:There is absolutely no right to privacy between myself and my wife, if she wants to see my phone or computer ect she can upon request (have fun sorting through 10,000 memes) and the same goes for her. Transparency to a extreme.
These two rules can prevent so many issues from arising, and while I think they are good, I also hope others find them to be good as well and that they might actually help people.
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Griff, stop believingthe first thing you hear especiallyif its from a jaded woman, he had jobs during that 15yrs just not a career, she was a career woman and made more money than him, and while i think men should always work to improve themselves, this guy was old when he purposed to her, its not like they got shacked up right out of high school so its not like she didnt have any understanding of reality.
Additionally, the media was the one asking if he should pay, she just didnt want to pay alimony before.
And, if the story isnt crazy enough, he forgot the tickets at the store and returned the next day to see if they had them, they did, he checked and he won, he gave the store clerk who kept them for him a unknown amount of money but seems to have changed his life as well.
So while he may be lacking in ambition, you'll have to forgive a old man for that. She divorced over money, money was her focus, her love, her obsession, not love. So why should her lack of love and inability to commit to at least two marriages be rewarded?
Sure she shouldn't have to pay alimony, but he shouldn't have to pay her a dime.
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Low confidence stems from outcome dependency and insecurity.
When you dont care about the outcome then suddenly the insecurities vanish.
Why is it you can talk to random people like other guys and never even flinch? Its because you arent invested.
But when you see some beautiful woman your mind jumps to what could be, anticipation sets in, you see something that doesn't even exist and think that you could lose that and suddenly you're scared, you start thinking of how you're gonna do this right and how you're gonna make her like you, but you dont even know if you like who she is. Is she a cheater? Is she a 304? Is she superficial or is she interesting? You dont know but you assume because you're thinking with the smaller of your two heads.
Stop, you're making stupid assumptions and lets be real, what are the chances you even like her when you get to know her?
So practice talking to women you arent intrested in, you have nothing to lose and youll begin to realize that when you arent so invested people will actually like you for simply not putting on a act, and if they don't, who cares, you weren't invested anyway, and once youve done this a handful of times, talking to beautiful women and not being insecure becomes easy.
Also, just like you shouldnt assume that you like some random beautiful chick, you should also stop assuming that people wouldnt like you, just stop making dumb assumptions and live because at the end of the day, you're the one who was always there for yourself, you know all the ups and downs, you know the struggle, the one whos got your back most is yourself and if someone dosent like you thats fine, and if they do great, thats only half the equation because we all know in this modern environment theres more of a chance that you dont like them than you do, but go find out, believe me, it wont take long to figure it out and then you can move on or if you do like each other, move forward.
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@tehlaziness sugar filled everything and processed foods.
I don't know how it is now, but when I was 20 there were polls that were done that showed that more millennial men knew how to cook from scratch than millennial women, so of course millennial men on average ate less processed foods than their female counterparts.
I grew up eating home cooked meals and learned how to cook myself from a young age, plus I have good genes and have worked physically demanding jobs while also knowing how to take care of myself, so while I'm 33 I look the same as I did when I was 22.
Alcohol though is a massive factor, my Dr complimented me on my liver function (odd thing to be complimented on but hey, he's a Dr) and my blood pressure (which I've been complimented on multiple times mostly by millennial female RNs lol).
I drank a lot in my early 20s, but almost never now. All my markers are good except my LDL cholesterol which I know is fine cause it's not the small particle and recent info on cholesterol shows that they weren't correct on it, it's very important. I eat a meat heavy died and carnivore at times, eat a lot of fat and stay away from grains. Turns out all those bugman "studies" which said that correlation was causeation were BS. Should be obvious as most veg and fruit were bred and didn't exist for the majority of humanity.
I do however love fermented foods, gotta keep that gut healthy and all.
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After sleeping around from 17-24yrs old I decided that if a woman was not good enough that I would be fine being tied to them for life, then I wasn't blessing them with the royal scepter.
That of course thinned the dating pool down to nearly nothing, I met two women worth being with, the first wanted very different life than I did though, the second is my wife, submissive and obedient, quiet, calm, always helpful and a hard worker.
Regardless of what it is that you want (if you reject a girl's advances she goes absolutely insane and won't stop until stumbling drunk or she gets you), raising your standards is the only way to go. Focus on improving yourself in every way possible and they come running in time and especially if you reject them, it's like they can sense it.
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@thewaywardgrape3838 absolutely agree!
I'm married now, started dating her at 26yrs old and I started the relationship by saying, word for word, this :"I can't read minds so I don't know what you're looking for or if you've even thought about that, but if we do end up dating just know, it's not me joining your life, it's not us joining our lives, it's you joining mine and I will have the final say in every decision I feel and if you don't like that, there's the door. *points at the door*"
She said ok and has been submissive ever since, a fantastic wife, now a fantastic mother.
I fully expected her to leave, and kinda wanted her to so I could focus on my life.
That being said I spent the next 6yrs studying hard, like 5hrs a day 6 days a week, haven't hit the lottery so to speak, but I'm getting very close.
Considering how bad the dating market is these days, I'm glad I'm not single, but even at the time I met my wife I had decided I wasn't doing relationships anymore, hence why I said what I did and expected her to leave, but when she submitted, I thought I'd give her a chance, and I'm glad I did really.
A key point here though, is that she is 8yrs younger than me, I really don't think guys should even consider dating until they are around 26-30 and not date women who are any less than 5yrs younger than him, that age difference causes her to see you as a authority figure, and if a woman dosent respect you, she will never trust you or feel secure with you. Respect is paramount.
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Yeah, even then I'd want some of my own and then train them all to be modern day warlords.
But, back when I was a simp I did date a single mom, I did end up being the father figure for him and he loved me because I taught him, teaching him also taught me a lot, I'd be giving him red pills that I didn't even live by and then realize I wasn't taking my own advice.
What really sucked though when that relationship ended was that I wouldn't be there for him and she wound up using him against me, she would bring him in to my workplace (that was public), make sure me and him saw each other and would basically taunt me with him, the worst part is that he wanted to come talk to me, he missed me and you could see how sad he was when she wouldn't let him, that right there was the real heart break, seriously fucked up.
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"Friendships are not formed with us as with you, over the wine cup. Nor are there considerations of age or neighborhood. When we see a brave man who is capable of valiant deeds, to him we all turn our attention. Friendship with us, is like courtship with you."
When Alexander the Great entered the region around Taxila, the ruler of Taxila came out to meet with him and is said to have asked
"To what purpose should we make war on one another? If the design of your coming to these parts be not to rob us of our water or our necessary food, which are the only things which wise men are indispensably obliged to fight for. As for other riches and possessions as they are accounted in the eye of the world, if I am better provided of them than you, I am ready to let you share with me, but if fortune has been more liberal to you than me, I have no objection to be obliged to you."
This discourse pleased Alexander so much that embracing him he is said to have stated
"Do you think your kind words and courteous behavior will bring you off on this interview without a contest?! No, you shall not escape so. I shall contend and do battle with you so far that how obliging soever you are, you shall not have the better of me."
"The receiving some presents from the ruler of Taxila, he returned him others of still greater value and to complete his bounty gave him in money ready coin 1000 talents."
It's interesting to me how there seems to have been a period of romance in the west, where reciprocation became less common, and relationships less respectful.
Now, it is ironic that upon the reduction of relationships to transactional exchanges we might have a opportunity to revive some very healthy old customs, upon which trust was once built through transparency, time and good character.
Evidence of sincerity in real time.
It is however entirely up to men which direction we chose to go, that of the scheming, underhanded coin clippers, or that of men who can look each other in the eyes with their egos in tact and their motives and intentions clear.
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@RobertA-hq3vz no one is born with skills, of course you have to learn them and I've learned a lot. I grew up working for my parents business and saw how much work went in to it, but there are a ton of other types that aren't so demanding. Buy a small CNC and make after market knife parts and such. I live in a state where small farms are very common along with tons of small soap companies ect all run out of homes by stay at home moms.
Is it hard? Sure, that's why it's called work, but all of life is work and if you shun that then you'll live a pretty miserable life.
I can build a house from the ground up and have done it, I can build a sauna, grow a garden, take care of any farm animal, fix nearly any issue in most cars (not gonna mess with electric) and operate most heavy equipment and I can learn and love to, I'd like to learn a few languages and speak a little of a few, I'd like to learn a few instruments and have played a few, I like to hunt, hike, fish and dance. There is more that I could do from home and would like to learn than I have life left and would enjoy learning those things with my kids and having that as part of their curriculum.
I'm 33, helped raised 14 of my second cousins starting when I was 11yrs old till I was 18 cooking, changing their diapers, cooking their meals and taking them to school, daycare and parks, I took care of my great grandparents in their final years and kept the hone from organizing the shop to helping my great grandparents change their depends, mowing the half acre yard and re-staining the nearly 100yr old house.
So no, I don't accept excuses, not from myself and not from others.
There is no imagining, I do them while I work already and if I had more time it would still be filled with things to do that I find great joy in and if one does not, that's called depression.
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This!
When I dated a single mom years back I put her son in Muay Thai.
The dad who had partial custody asked if he could come to his sons practice and I told him I would prefer that he did (he wasn't a deadbeat, she was a clown).
Me and him both respected each other, he was concerned that I would try to take total authority as a father figure and I told him that was his role and he needed to fill those shoes.
A few times he asked if he could come pick his son up and take him to practice which I said yes.
Basically most of the communication that went on between his baby mama and him was through me at least on his part and I treated him fairly and with respect that she had not.
She saw this and tried to get me to cut him off and not let him see his son because as she thought (or just said) he was in competition with me, and while I could see that possibly being the case it was obvious it was not. He started getting his life back together and was a lot less depressed and it didn't take long before the boy prefered either my company or his dad's (usually mine over everyone) which made my ex incredibly jealous and angry.
She eventually went full on psycho, attacked me, broke liquor bottles over my head, would attack me in my sleep, got guns pulled on me ect ect. It got to be to much I had to leave, she then tried to use her son against me to get me back, wound up losing her job, lost her apartment and wound up living in her car doing meth. She left her son at her parents and his dad filed for full custody and won.
All this dude wanted was to be a father to his son and she used that against him to the detriment of her son, and before her son was even 8yrs old he saw that and knew and wound up resenting her.
She was genuinely a evil person and not kidding I'm lucky I came out of that alive.
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@starc. a honest 304 doesn't play that scripted game, they know what they are and are honest about what they want.
A undamaged vvoman is less vulnerable to that script, she is more natural and has better conversation, she is more intrested in you and less intrested in your wallet.
Then, there is the one the script works on, she wants the best of both worlds, maybe she knows it (entitled), maybe she doesn't, but in both cases she lacks all understanding of what a healthy relationship is.
These are the ones we see most often, they demand a $200k engagement ring, demand he be 6'6" ect.
Simply put, 304s in denial. Otherwise outright malevolent.
Those are the ones the script works on, they don't know they have issues and if you insinuate that they might they will go into full defense mode and turn everything around on you.
This is what I realized, I knew the script, what I did not comprehend at the time is just how damaged those it worked on really were, it was my realization of this and how common these types are that made me check out, not simply that they were nearly identical in their thought processes.
If you could redeem them, that would be great and good for them, unfortunately I don't think that's possible, if so I'd like to hear your take as to how that might happen.
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I think this primarily applies to women. As a father myself I love my son of course and am absolutely blessed to have the responsibility of training him into a man, but men don't get baby fever and do a lot better alone, plus, it seems to be more common that when a older man speaks in a instructional way to a younger man or group of younger men that they give him a basic level of respect, than not.
I've spoken to a lot of older men from 50 all the way up to probably close to 100yrs and even if they are just sharing stories of their childhood its great to hear their perspective and experiences, the best word I could use is that it is enriching.
In this way, even a single man can be a father figure to young men, he may not see their growth or witness their success and failures, but the whole dynamic seems to be that men don't deeply need to have that huge family. Women on the other hand are insecure by their nature, it is why they are hypergamous, they must attain that safety and security, and when they are old and alone, even if they had children who went their separate ways, if that woman is without a close bond to them or the man she created it with, she will always be extremely sad and bitter.
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I have to disagree.
If it's a economic transaction then it's all a loss for the man.
Unless the man marries a woman who is a financial benifit to him, which really dosent happen and men wouldn't want that anyway.
Imo there are two things a woman can do that would bring value to my life. 1: helping, whatever that means, she helps with the kids, she helps with the errands, she helps with the home and she helps in way of companionship.
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2: she gives me children. This one not all men want (and obviously don't want with most of these women) but for me I want children, and I have them, now that I do I further realize the value in having children, they do indeed help you grow (not always but to any responsible man they absolutely will) and make all your work a labor of love.
Aside from those things, a woman is nothing but a financial burden, a consumer of time and attention, a eater of your virility, a black hole, all consuming.
But at the end of the day, if your intention isn't to have children, then a woman is a horrible investment; companionship I can get from a dog, intellectual conversation from my male friends, a clean/organized home simply from the absence of a woman.
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@andrewgood7586 you seemed to understand what I was arguing from the beginning, it seems now you're trying to move goalposts.
I said it is that, but that should not be the main reason now has it been the primary reason because women are generally a financial burden, not benifit.
It may have been a primary reason for monarchies to develop peace between two nations/tribes and gain land and aristocratic wealth, but for the plebs what did they have to gain? Another unproductive mouth to feed and a dowry?
Her bringing food and doing housework wasn't valuable and she's not able to match a man in the field for strength, speed, endurance or efficiency.
So no, as a general rule, marriage was not a financial transaction for the vast majority of history and if it ever was it was in the favor of the woman to have a man to protect and provide (hence why that's even a thing) for her, not for her to be a financial benifit to him, which she was likely not. Even arranged marriages parents would practice hypergamy on her behalf picking the wealthiest men for her to marry, how would she be able to bring value to his house?
If you think that's the case, please provide men examples in contrast to a hired had as to how a woman would be more financially worthwhile than a employee, servant or slave.
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Listen to me bruv,
1: it's important to be social, or at least, we are social creatures.
That's great, but in this modern environment who would really wanna be social and would that actually be good? I personally think not.
2:Play your games, just make sure to limit it, make it a ritual for relaxation and combine it with a little exercise afterwards followed up by another hobby.
It's my opinion that many people are significantly OVER socialized and need quiet time to think and process our thoughts, pursue our hobbies and gather knowledge.
It's obvious that this modern culture is sick, so don't bother concerning yourself with what society thinks, instead, live your life in a way that you think is moral and right, don't worry about being perfect cause that's not gonna happen, just enjoy the process and peace.
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I live in one of the deepest blue cities in the nation and I'm telling you now, those CBS nubers are completely false. Thats like his approval rating here, but if they polled an equal number of people from the city and the country, you would find his approval rating in the 80% range or higher.
I know people who didn't vote for him, but have voiced praise for what he and elon are doing.
These clowns skew their polls by doing them in places (such as their own audience) they know he will get the worst numbers and 53% is the worst they could do?! 😂 of course the money laundering leeches of society are mad the plebs have had enough, they can cry a river for all I care, they made this mess, they made people despise them with their abhorrent behavior and antics and lies and then wonder why so many in their own party turned on them.
Trump was a registered dem, many of his cabinet were, RFKj was a dem, and they still think that just because they try to force a narrative that everyone is just gonna bend over like some judge being questioned about dei.....
Yeah good luck! Americans like everyone else care about the basics most and when the dems want to screw us just so they can put on some transformer musical in another country that doesn't set well with anyone.
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@EarlCorgi lol, we had a dog when I was young, it caught a car, by the tire, didn't let go, got its head run over.
That's basically what happens when these low value vvomen somehow land a half masculine guy, he puts up boundaries and when they don't let go of their insecurities and submit, they get rolled, right out the front door and back onto the streets.
They have fully convinced themselves of so many lies, that what should be obvious and is to many more classy women, is actually controlling.
The most classy women, if they have social media at all, have it locked up tight, but even suggest that a woman in a relationship should actually behave in a monogamous manner, such as not posting thirst traps, and you're immediately labeled as insecure.
Personally I can live with that, I'll be insecure and she can be back on the streets.
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Emotional intelligence is made up to replace maturity.
Women are not able to teach boys how to express their emotions in a good way, women don't even understand boys. This is clearly seen in the videos of single mothers who's child are wild and unruly, lashing out ect.
Father's are good at keeping that in check, but men have for the most part been told to shut up and not express their feelings, when they do, society lashes out at them for it and women use it against him.
Because of this it's doubtful that your father thought it was a important thing to teach, much less did he know how to well, but, he did if he ever taught you how to communicate, because that is all healthy expression of your emotions is. The context of these might be difficult, determining what exactly is disrespect in certain circumstances, what is narcissistic or self centered, what is and is not acceptable.
Expression of emotion for men is not the same as for women and women give the worst, most self indulgent advice of how men should handle their emotions, encouraging crying as if men needed permission, though it solves nothing at all.
One thing to remeber about emotions is they are not you, they are something you feel, so "I am angry" literally is correct, but it would be more articulate to say "I feel angry" a small semantic difference, but take hopelessness versus a absence of hope. Very similar, but slightly different framework, one being a thing, the other being the absence of the opposite of that thing.
Your mom would not be able to help you with this, women are not born with that knowledge and cannot communicate such things to men or boys because they filter things through a emotional lense and not a literal logical one, instead she would've like most of them do tried to be your friend and pitted you against mean Ole dad all be it unintentionally.
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