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@Dies_iræ_666 Dire la verità è offendere? Faresti ridere chiunque abbia un poco di cultura e conoscenza, oltre che renderti ridicolo di fronte a tutti gli altri, visto che non c'è MAI stata una maggioranza pro indipendenza.
Parte del dialetto sicialiano fa parte della lingua italiana, che non è solo fiorentino, fin fal Medioevo. La polenta c'è al nord, in Lombardia e Ttentino, come negli Abruzzi e nel Molise, i tipi di pasta ( gnocchi, tortellini, maccheroni) si trovano dappertutto e da molto tempo.
Il baccalà si mangia anche al Nord e le maschere sono conosciute in tutta italia.
Prova a chiedere ad un parigino cos'è il morue sèche non lo sa, o ad u heeco se conosce l'alevropita( sai cos'è?), dubito lo sappiano,il cornetto invece è diffuso ovunque in Italia.
La Storia in comune inizia con i Romani e prosegue nei secoli dopo, nel Medioevo. Romani che, fra l'altro, avevano nell'Italia, isole comprese, il centro dell'Impero, senza divisioni, quelle te le sei inventate tu.
Te l'ho detto, dovresti studiare e portare prove, io non ho tempo né voglia di insegnare ad un'asino come te( chiedo scusa all'asino per il paragone) partendo da zero, sarai sempre un regionalista buzzurro e senza uno straccio di argomento che s'arrabbia quando li si fa notare che la sua regione è parte di un insieme, perché ti credi speciale ( lo sei ma in un altro senso rispetto a quello che dici tu).
Caro zoomer, per te meno internet e porno e più libri, altrimenti continuerai a fare figuracce
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It did, didn't it? And nothing bad ever hap-
1350 BC plague of Megiddo Death toll: unkown, possibly many thousands to millions
Plague of Athens 429–426 BC Death toll: 75,000–100,000
412 BC epidemic 412 BC Death toll: unkown, possibly many thousands to millions
Antonine Plague 165–180 Death toll:5–10 million
(possibly up to 190)
Jian'an Plague 217 Death toll: unkown, possibly many thousands to millions
Plague of Cyprian 250–266 Death toll: unkown, possibly many thousands to millions
Plague of Justinian 541–549 Death toll:15–100 million
Roman Plague of 590 Death toll: unkown, possibly many thousands to millions
Plague of Sheroe 627–628 Death toll: +25000
Plague of Amwas 638–639 Death toll: +25000
Plague of 664 664–689 Death toll: unkown, possibly many thousands to millions
Plague of 698–701 Death toll: unkown, possibly many thousands to millions
735–737 Japanese smallpox Death toll: aprox. 2 millions
epidemic
Plague of 746–747 Death toll: unkown, possibly many thousands to millions
Black Death Death toll:75-200 millions aprox
Oh yeah, THAT . How about you open a book and START STUDYING?
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@dougiequick1 Spain, Germany, Sweden, France, Czech Republic, Italy, Austria, Norway, Iceland, Finland, Belgium, Portugal,Denmark, Slovakia,Netherlands....
Those country who are better than USA
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@Suðringa o Well, it's weirder how you defined uk economic resurgence, the cool uk, the influence in EU, the "cool Britain"...I know where you took your deluded and crazy, distorted version from: Farage and his looneys .
You forget in your biased bs the oppression of Scotland, his exploitation for England's benefit benefit,,, Scotland it's asking a representation it doesn't have in Westminster but that will have in Bruxelles.
You hypocrite! If Scotland can't survive how could uk? 46% is to EU alone, the other 54% is divided among many nations, which you have a trade deal with through EU
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@Dies_iræ_666 Sei sei ignorante e cerebroleso non posso farci nulla, io ti ho spiegato perchè siamo nazione, tu hai solo contato storielle e balle, forse qualcuno ci casca, perchè è al tuo livello, da asilo nido, di studio, io no.
Per prima cosa qui i secessionisti sono una minoranza, in Spagna Catalonia, Paesi Baschi, Andorra tutti vorrebbero separarsi, così come il Nord Epiro e le altre regioni greche. Secondo, un siciliano è molto più simile ad un lombardo di quanto un provenzale o di un bavarese e un prussiano o un greco delle isole e uno del continente. Se si parlassero in dialetto neppure loro si capirebbero, stessa cosa per le differenze regionali e i piatti, con la differenza che in Italia ci sono tradizioni, costumi e una Storia comune.
Puoi far fesso uno straniero o qualcuno della tua contrada che, come te, non ha mai viaggiato, non me, il tuo regionalismo ed estremismo anti italianismo ti rende irrazionale ed è, francamente, patetico
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@lordekker It did. Before Austria took it over it was a Episcopal principality tied to Italy until 1500( and that didn't fully "die" until 1815), when Austria grabbed total control, and before that it was a romance region until Germanic barbarians arrived, Duchy of Trento founded, ironically, by Lombards, the only Germanic tribe who integrated, and part of Kingdom of Italy.
Only after Austria uses the control it had to make German speakers relocate in Alto Adige the region suffered the influx of the German world and the words South Tirol and Welsch Tirol begun to appear but even so Trentino stayed romance, tied to his latin name, Tridentum, who is ancient and used since 1600 and before, despite what some propaganda might say
Thus in 1800 Trentino Alto Adige begun to rise against Austria and the Tirol county of Innisbruck, who soughted to eliminate Italian and romance element since 1600
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Not really: Italians were quite strong in Middle Ages and Early Moder Era, while other, like Spaniards, French, English, were at the margins of History. But after 1494 disunity took a toll until Italy reunited, then it didn't do that bad, certainly not worse than English( Zulu), France( Haitians, Algerians, Vietnamese), Spanish( Defeated by Pampas natives) etc...
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@freedomordeath89 "Ho argomentato per filo e per segno perchè l'esercito italiano era demotivato, incompetente, inefficace. Non hai controargomentato in nessun modo " dove? Ah, quando hai scritto "l'ItaLIA fA sCHifO gne Gne"? Ma guarda che non devo mica interpretare. Nè io devo argomentare a queste cazzate. Ti è stato detto che l'Italia ha dato e da natali a grandi menti, basta vedere gli scienziati come la Capua e che c'è differenza fra la critica argomentata è le stronzate che ti escono dalla bocca, ma tu non hai fatto altro che rispondere "sIEte faxxisti, xenophobi, italianuzzi etc..." questo NON è argomentare, è il vaneggiamento sconclusionato che mostra l'astio di un poveraccio insoddisfatto e irrealizzato.
Se fossimo come ci dipingi com'è che l'Italia è l'ottava potenza industriale, dopo essere stata a lungo la quarta, del pianeta? Come mai continuiamo a stupire? Forse ci sono aspetti positivi, oltre al negativi?
Ora vai a studiare cosa vuol dire argomentare
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Diagonal Il socialismo non ha NULLA a che fare con il comunismo, è democratico ed ammette il dibattito libero, non vuole abolire la società o l'individuo, il comunismo è la marcescenza dei principi socialisti, incarnati solo parzialmente sal fascismo, con il suo corporativismo. Continui a non portare argomenti per le tue forzature. Leggere che il comunismo sarebbe la continuazione del socialismo è comico. Il fascismo non creò nessun campo, quelli a cui tu ti riferisci erano campi per la prigionia, tipo confino, e la mortalità era più bassa di lager o gulag.
Mussolini aveva migliori rapporti con Stalin che con le "plutocrazie occidentali".
Ah, adesso Wikipedia non è sempre affidabile, lo è solo quando serve a te? Patetico.
Non vedo alcuna argomentazione o prova da parte tua, solo fallacie logiche.
Per quanto riguarda l'alleanza ussr-nazisti, ripeto, leggi Storia del Fascismo.
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@AldoCichero-r3b LOL, solo i partiti che inneggiavano alla resa e all'annessione e mi sembra anche normale
Hai prove che sia stata colpa del governo?
Io non mi scordo delle cariche dei militari russi senza insegne e travestiti da ucraini
No, tu sei schierato, solo che non ti conviene dirlo, perchè sai che la parte per cui ti sei schierato, per ideologia o guadagno, è sbagliata
Mi sembra ingiusto lasciare passare un messaggio che un bullo possa maltrattare i vicini solo perchè più deboli, come fa Putin
Quando mi parli di statisti penso a Roosvelt, Reagan, Imre Nagy, Beneš e tanti altri. Purtroppo a volte la diplomazia non serve, se l'altra parte non vuole ascoltare ragioni
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@mattysti947 It's like teaching History to a donkey. A coward one no less
1) No matter what they referred themselves as, they were not Romans, not since 900 AD. Otherwise so are Turks
2) Yes they did. By 800/900 AD they spoke Greek and Latin was not used even in public administration. And contrary to Italy their culture was a mixture of Slavs, Turks and Greek, 3)Italy kept being Latin, the few Germanics were absorbed by Romans and became Romans themselves
4) the concept of cultural nation existed and Italy was one, Italy was indipendent since 1100 at least, chasing out HRE and will remain so fo 400 years. Contrary to Byzantium who lost itself to Turk
5) Roman heritage is real for Italy, the blood is the sane and the culture at national and regional level was always Roman.
I know it anger you, everyone wants to claim such great heritage, like the Greek one. Only Italy can claim them both.
Now go studying.
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@Dies_iræ_666 No true, despite the differences the similarities are more than the difference: the language (Italian is, like Sardinian a language, Veneto is a dialect), the culture etc...the separatist are a minority, unlike countries like Spain(Catalonia, Pais Vascos), France(Brittany, Corsica), Greece( Northern Epirus), these countries are evidently less united
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@skiteufr French mock others to forget of their ineptitude to win anything.
French was defeated, well, so did Italy. And yes, France, the actual France who collaborated with nazi, declared war to the allies. But it is something French do great, just not as great as surrendering. Italy, on other hand, never did switch sides
Ps: ever heard of Rome empire, Venice, Genoa, Pisa? Italy has a great military History
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@anonymusopina1 EU saved countries from bankruptcy, countries who would have defaulted by now....
EU has many thing to offer to everyone, migrants and Europeans alike. Afterall itan Union of all Europeans, with the objectively of peace, democracy and unity in diversity in the Continent. They have made countries like Ireland and Spain, with little industries and weak economies, strong. Before joining Spain was poor, since the 80s its GDP tripled
And no, Chinese products cannot enter EU easily, they are taxed exactly because EU products respect regulations and standard of quality they don't.
Last but not least, Greece, Portugal and Spain made a mess of their own economies. When there wasn't the ECB their solution was printing money with dire consequences for inflation. ECB is buying titles at a low interest rate no one would buy.
EU is an union made for European6, so that we don't succumb to China, USA, Russia.
Go study Greece, Portugal, Spain economy before and after EU
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@UnholyWrath3277 Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see how convinced you are despite Truth refuting you at every chance.
Surely enough you are not Italian, descendants of Romans who know their culture. And no, Greek and Chinese, even Turkish, have culture and History, your people came from the North, as I said, with the Huns and all it mattered to them, like to you, it's blood.
They fed on the carrion of the lion, the Roman empire, like dogs.
But the lion remains a lions, while dogs remain dogs.
I laugh at you on top of three millennia of History and Culture
Ps: America? AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAH
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@eddiel7635 Again, if 52% was enough to call brexit it is to call another referendum, if it is 52% and not more.
Just to repeat, as you seem to have difficulties reading simply tests, the Commission doesn't make laws, the EU Parliament does like the House of Lords in uk, but the former is elected, the latter not. Big differences. If by bureaucrats you mean the elected members of the European parliament, you are mistaken.
If Scotland leave the oil goes with it, wait should. Other London might be tempted to follow EU and leave uk, as many counties in England
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@sweetmaster7696 Non, non cresceva ovunque in tutta Europa, gli altri Paesi facevano austerity quando l'Italia continuava a fare deficit e debito. Con l'Euro l'Italia ebbe la possibilità, come nei primi '80, di riagganciare quelle economie, ma nessun politicante ebbe il coraggio di tagliare la spesa. Io non ho mai detto che non si possono fare deficit e debito, webete, neanche Draghi lo sostiene ma non uno Stato non può sostenere una politica di deficit e debito prolungato e il debito deve essere PRODUTTIVO, non sussidi dati a pioggia, utili per il consenso, meno per la tenuta dello Stato
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@interItalia333 Le tue? Certamente. Le Nazioni Unite non riconoscono il Kosovo come territorio serbo
Nè lo riconosce l'Unesco, la cui maggioranza dei Paesi ha votato per riconoscere il Kosovo come indipendente
AHAHAHAHA adesso i genocidi della dissoluzione della Yugoslavia erano colpa dei kosovari? Metodo russo, accusare gli altri dei tuoi crimini. Chi uccideva ed ha provocato le guerre è stata la Serbia
La NATO è intervenuta ANCHE per questioni geopolitiche, ma non solo. Se lo avesse fatto per gli armeni tu avresti parlato d'ingerenza. Avrebbero potuto intervenire in Georgia, negli osseti, regione che sicuramente riterrai georgiana, visto che sei per l'integrità territoriale, giusto? Eppure non l'hanno fatto.
E comunque, c'è differenza fra popolazioni NATIVE che chiedono l'indipendenza (kosovari) e il risultato d'invasioni talvolta secolari (russi in Crimea, serbi in Kosovo e Bosnia, turchi a Cipro)
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@nathanporrata9274 Serbia, sandwiched as it is between a stronger AH, Italy, Bulgaria, Ottoman empire and possibly Greece it wouldn't last more than few months. After all Jugoslavia fell quickly in WW2 and it was more than Serbia.
An amphibious landing in Italy would just go as well as Gallipoli.
Italian navy could support an invasion from land, which again, would have a breakthrough as primary objective
England could move ships around but that would mean wreaking North Fleet. As I said, Italian, Austrian, Ottoman fleets plus German submarines would have the control, if not of all Mediterranean, at least of the East. Which meant Egypt would fall.and Malta too (not taking it was a mistake from Mussolini in WW2)
If we look at WW2 the entry of Italy alone would have meant France collapsed 6 weeks after Marna, they barely held out as it was and Italian were neutral
French and English performances, with a 2vs1 superiority on West Front(couldn't break out or destroy German army) or against Ottoman Empire( Gallipoli) with a complete dominance of the Mediterranean in our timeline speak volumes about how those scenarios would have played out.
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@yazangh9075 Fact is, I'm tired of hearing your source less jingoism
AHAHAH again, in FRENCH statistic I'm sure it is, in the Real world is well surpassed by Mongol and Spanish empire. Like in French statistic France is the first nuclear power in Europe, when it's actually uk, and the third globally (LMAO no, China. Then uk).
Sorry little 💩 croissant, facts are facts, France it's not a great power even in Europe, nor in the Real world, Italy surpassed France in military too
Au revoir, grenouille
Ps: immigrate like you did in other countries? Lmao
“Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.” Mark Twain abd you have lots of experience 😉
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@yazangh9075 Fact is, I'm tired of hearing your source less jingoism
AHAHAH again, in FRENCH statistic I'm sure it is, in the Real world is well surpassed by Mongol and Spanish empire. Like in French statistic France is the first nuclear power in Europe, when it's actually uk, and the third globally (LMAO no, China. Then uk).
Sorry little 💩 croissant, facts are facts, France it's not a great power even in Europe, nor in the Real world, Italy surpassed France in military too
Au revoir, grenouille
Ps: immigrate like you did in other countries? Lmao
“Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.” Mark Twain, and you have lots of experience 😉
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@leonardoferrari4852 Ma che c'entra Legnano con Fornovo?
Ripeto, Carlo non si ritirò, scappò senza più nulla, né bottino (niente paghe ai soldati) né più territorio da tenere
Il libro dice che Legnano non fu una vittoria? Non parla di Legnano. Fornovo è descritta come una vittoria, tattica ma vittoria, come anche gli storici del tempo la considerarono
Neanche il resto della Lombardia, men che meno Treviso, che era sotto Padova
Legnano, che non c'entra con Fornovo, mise fine ad ogni ambizione imperiale in Italia per secoli, e il sud era Stato indipendente e sovrano sopratutto dopo la morte degli Svevi tanto quanto la Spagna sotto gli Asburgo. E questo che conta invece, non il sovrano. O forse l'Inghilterra non era sovrana sotto Guglielmo Il Conquistatore? La Spagna sotto gli Asburgo?
Sei tu che tiri fuori argomenti che non c'entrano nulla, come il Regno Di Gerusalemme, per coprire le le tue lacune in Storia, è su Wikipedia che hai trovato French Bloody Reteat. Peccato che così facendo le rendi solo più ovvie
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@leonardoferrari4852 Perché fa parte del periodo storico e della regione storica. Non è come il Regno di Gerusalemme, che appartiene ad una regione diversa e non duró e che non c'entra nulla con i fatti citati, che citi come la Marca di Ancona e quella di Treviso come uomo di paglia per sviare l'attenzione dalle tue lacune
Veramente dice che è una vittoria, tattica, non completa, ma una vittoria, opinione condivisa anche dagli storici e altre personalità dell'epoca, francesi aggregati alla spedizione compresi.
Treviso era sotto il signore di Padova, Ancona sotto lo Stato Pontificio.
Il Sud era sovrano fino al XVI secolo, quando l'Italia perse la sua indipendenza, il fatto che avesse un sovrano di un'altra dinastia non c'entra nulla, altrimenti neanche la Spagna era indipendente sotto gli Asburgo o i Borbone.
Tu non hai avuto accesso al libro ma ad un nome, che utilizzi cone il resto delle nozioni cge hai appreso lì. Io leggo su diverse fonti, sopratutto libri. Tu ne hai mai aperto uno? Evidentemente no e t'assicuro che dirlo ti procurerà meno vergogna che continuare questa messinscena .
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@leonardoferrari4852 Allora aprilo e leggilo. Lol, io l'ho nominati, tu hai nominato un libro che non hai letto.
"(..)French defeats which, unlike the Italians wars of 16th century, was inflicted by the armies of the Italians states alone"
Scrive invece Commmynes: “…calava la notte e quelle
schiere che erano davanti a noi si ritirarono nel loro campo e noi dall’altra parte. Noi
andammo a porre gli alloggiamenti a un quarto di lega da dove era avvenuta la
battaglia….a tutti pareva di averla scampata bella e non eravamo più così pieni di
superbia quando vedevamo i nostri nemici vicini…quella notte gli alemanni montarono
la guardia e il re diede loro trecento scudi , fecero buona guardia e suonavan forte i
loro tamburi…" bell'esercito vittorioso che scappa durante la notte, lieto di non dover combattere.
Ripeto, il sud è stato, fino al 1500, indipendente e sovrano, altrimenti neanche la Spagna sotto gli Asburgo o i Borbone poteva dire di esserlo
Prima di essere imperiale era veneziana. Poi, dopo un breve periodo, è tornata sotto il dominio di un signore italiano. Lo stesso la Marca di Ancona
Se vuoi utilizza wiki ma, ti ripeto, sarebbe meglio che studiassi dai libri (che non leggi o leggi solo le parti che t'interessano)
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@cplcabs It is: oil, gas, fish, which are SCOTTISH, not English. An if it takes part of the debt, it takes part of the assets as well
Scotland can just trade the same amount with the EU, initially, and be fine, then expand trade. Your agreements are a joke, Eu is better at striking agreements than Nazi ussk
LOL, you Fear Project isn't working: EU already said it's open to Scotland joining and that would only bring prosperity to Scotland, better than being under the foot of unelected oligarchs in Westmonster
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@cplcabs No, they are Scottish, like any in the Economic Zone. Otherwise the fish Tories nagged so much about aren't English either. And Orkland and Shetland can only leave AFTER Scotland left uk, only if the government allow them to have a referendum.
If it will take part of the debt of uk's debt, not all, it will also take part of its asset
LOL, that's not a problem for Ireland actually and it won't be for Scotland
EU IS BETTER at striking deal. It takes time because it upheld its own standards, so they don't have to sign whatever they have under their noses, like uk did with Japan and Australia. And yet it has a deal with Mercosur, Australia, Japan, Philippines, Vietnam, Canada etc..etc... while uk dream of Canzuk collapsed when NZ and Canada said no
AHAHAH if it was true you'd have showed data by now, But it isn't
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@cplcabs Yes, they are, they are in the EEZ. Otherwise you English should stop whining about fish that isn't yours. That's EU fish
I'm glad you agreed Scotland will get a percentage of uk assets, excluding what it already own (oi, fish and gas), so i t will probably get the military equipment
EU is better at negotiating deal, as no one who puts pesticides or any other chemical can import in EU, as uk found out the hard way, while uk will import chlorinated chicken from USA
You should really inform yourself, your comments reeks of illiteracy and Tory propaganda, you should really strat reading papers with actual data
I suggest you to START STUDYING before making a fool of yourself again
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@keyos1955 You keep telling bs and I can't understand why you do. Are you a bot?
Yes, East Roman Empire morphed into something different with time. It's not that in 476 they stopped being Roman but in time they weren't anymore, despite having a close ties.
Again, Greek was important BUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LANGUAGE even in the East was Latin, which was the most important language in the West, this is important because, you like it or not, the language define a civilisation
Again, they had ties but weren't Rome, otherwise HRE was the Roman Empire as well, they called themselves Romans!
Christianity, CATHOLIC Christianity the one with the centre the Pope, was the official religion with Constantine in 300, until then and even some time after that they were pagans, so your crap about religion is utterly irrelevant.
Was Christianity a Roman religion? For a bit, towards the end. Was Orthodox Christianity a Roman religion? *NO*. FULL STOP.
There is a clear distance between the two and Romans did only know the first, like it or not.
So Byzantine Religion? Greek.
Architecture? Greek/Medievsl Greek
Law? Roman, but with HEAVY Greek influences
Military tactics and structure? Byzantine/ Medieval Greek, Roman's didn't have that structure
Political? Again, Medieval Greek, Romans didn't have the military to lead politics.
So again, they were not Romans anymore since 700 AD at least. The last Roman Emperor was Justinian
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@keyos1955 Ok, but I think this is the last time, as I cannot afford to mend the lacks in your instruction for free.
I'm not saying it's you, even though maybe your lack of effort and curiosity is part of the problem, your country's school system is to blame
Again, you cannot make the difference between someone still in the military becoming consul and a civilian.
Casear became a civilian to be consul, like Scipius, Marc Anthony, Augustus etc... When war broke of course consuls with military expertise were chose but they weren't military .
In the Byzantine empire there was a military aristocracy that didn't exist in the Roman state, not even during the Roman Empire.
Again no, Constantinople became capital LIKE ROME, but only of the East part.
Look you might consider a career as a 🤡, History is not for you
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@keyos1955 Where are yours? When are you gonna answer to mine question?
You said Cursus Honorum was military but it wasn't only military, like it wasn't Roman politics. Sure, there were those with military background but others,like Cicero, did not have the military command, they were mostly civilian. This didn't happen in late Byzantine Empire.
Greeks civilization didn't disappear, civilization almost never disappear, the culture may change but the root remain. You should have learnt how to read and argue, you couldn't understand my statements nor rebut them, you only used spite and logical fallacies, and load of bs.
I try it again, for the last time:East Roman Empire didn't disappear, it gradually morphed into something different, by the time Eraclio died the Empire was Roman no more. It has ties, sure, but it wasn't Rome. Stop.
If you think differently, for the last time, let's agree to disagree and move on
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@keyos1955 Ahahahahahaha Ahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
you had to think for TWO DAYS and you came up with the sane bs?
Cursus Honorum was a trail of different paths AMONG WHICH there was a military one, but that's it.
Cicero was a politician, not a general, he wasn't chose to be Consul for his military qualities.
Greek civilisation didn't disappeared if Greek culture survived, this is an Historical Truth. Seem that you didn't study what make a civilisation, its culture, among the other things you didn't study.
I say that you didn't reply because you didn't and seeing the crap you spitting that was probably for the best.
From Roman Kingdom to Roman Republic to Roman Empire costumes, language etc...didn't changed, between Roman Empire, East Roman Empire included, and the Greek Byzantine Empire it did.
So what you say makes no sense.
Again, it was Roman indeed until Eraclio. Then it turned something different, which I NEVER said it was like Ancient Greece but close to Greece than to Rome in some aspect and totally new from Ancient Era in others (Medieval Hellade)
You didn't bring any argument or proof to support your thesis, oy logical fallacies so the issue is moot.
Let's just agree to disagree and move on.
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@keyos1955 Again with your bs. I can't help but laugh at the pathetic crap you are spouting.
Cursus Honorum was a mostly civilian path, not a military one. Your education, as I said, it's abysmal, you can't even open a book or look on google. Pathetic
Praetor were not only military but also magistrate. Did Cicero also had a military background? Of course, but that's not why he was chosen as consul, WHICH WAS A CIVILIAN OFFICE, not a military one. The fact he COULD move the army it doesn't make it a predominantly military society. Rome was a warrior.city but it did not based its civilisation on the army, like Byzantines.
Culture is what makes a civilisation, even a kindergarten know this. The fact civilisation are not alive it doesn't mean they disappeared, an Historian or someone who REALLY love History would know this.
No, between Roman Kingdom, Republic and Empire it changed little, something changed yes but not as much as it did after 476 onward, like the language, capital,architecture, state structures, identity, etc... changed you refused to discuss further relying on logical fallacies. I'm still waiting for proofs and arguments from you but I'll probably wait in vain, so let's agree to disagree and stop here.
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@keyos1955 Anyone who read this conversation and has a minimum oh History knowledge understand you know nothing about Cursum Honorum and Roman History in general. You can go on making a fool of yourself but you cannot get upset when someone makes fun of you for it.
Do you know what "not only" means? I'll make an example: not only your History knowledge is poor but also you reading skills are.
Wikipedia could be a good place as anything for you to start, you'd would avoid looking this pathetic. Most of magistrate duty had nothing to do with military power.
You keep insisting they are military, while I have said they were NOT ONLY( read on the vocabulary what "not only" means) military but also civil, most predominantly
And you keep saying it was predominantly military: like if making laws and keeping treasury in check was military matter. 😂
Again, you use disappear like the ties of those civilisations and the new never existed. Again, civilisation DON'T DIE, they CHANGE.
You didn't show any argument or proof and the only thing you did quote didn't actually support your thesis. And you dare asking me? I showed you how, from language to architecture, Byzantines distanced themselves from Roman, Sophia church included!
Again, I'm tired of schooling you, so let's agree to disagree, or if you want to go on bring proofs of your bs. Of course you cannot so you keep acting stupid hoping to tire me off
I told you before, if t is having the last word your real objective, all you had to do is ASKING. 😉
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The war against Austria-Hungary, which the Italian Army, inferior in number and equipment, began on 24 May 1915 under the leadership of His Majesty and supreme leader the King and conducted with unwavering faith and tenacious bravery without rest for 41 months, is won.
The gigantic battle, which opened on the 24th of last October and in which fifty-one Italian divisions, three British, two French, one Czechoslovak and a US regiment joined against seventy-three Austrian divisions, is over.
The lightning-fast and most audacious advance of the XXIX Army Corps on Trento, blocking the retreat of the enemy armies from Trentino, as they were overwhelmed from the west by the troops of the VII army and from the east by those of the I, VI, and the IV armies, led to the utter collapse of the enemy's front. From the Brenta to the Torre, the fleeing enemy is pushed ever further back by the irresistible onslaught of the XII, VIII, X Armies and of the cavalry divisions.
In the plains, His Royal Highness the Duke of Aosta is advancing at the head of his undefeated III Army, eager to return to the previously successfully conquered positions, which they had never lost.
The Austro-Hungarian Army is vanquished: it suffered terrible losses in the dogged resistance of the early days, and during the pursuit it lost an enormous quantity of materials of every kind as well as almost all its stockpiles and supply depots. The Austro-Hungarian Army has so far left about 300,000 prisoners of war in our hands along with multiple entire officer corps and at least 5,000 pieces of artillery.
The remnants of what was one of the world's most powerful armies are returning in hopelessness and chaos up the valleys from which they had descended with boastful confidence.
Chief of Staff of the Army, General Diaz
Infranse, alfin, l'italico valore
Le forche e l'armi dell'impiccatore
Sicure l'Alpi, LIBERE le sponde
E tacque il Piave: "Si placaron le onde"
Sul patrio suolo, vinti i torvi Imperi
La Pace non trovò né oppressi, né stranieri
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Nacra, the autocorrect made me make a mistake, so what? And how many gold medals medals did you win? Oh wait none! And you are an island!🤣🤣🤣
You are just a funny, quaint 🎪 of a kingdom near European coastline. You've got nothing, fish and ship is Dutch, America does a better apple pie than you, Italy beat you at sailing, 100 meters and football...LOL what are you good at?
Cyclist? Italy is in the final, against yo...oh wait no, it's against Denmark, tried to cheat them again but this time you got kicked out: what a puny, pathetic excuse of a nation you are!
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@spencersfarm You showed what you are: a colonialist autocratic clown! Ireland never was uk, Irish always fought the dreadful fake state uk! And it was free in 1917, although England, which is the real face behind uk, didn't want to recognize its freedom, like it refuse to recognize Scotland's! And since Ireland is a part of EU, EU is part of Belfast agreement!
EU has a Parliament, a governing body, it isn't just an international organization and it has its sovereignty , so it's part of GFA as much as it is of WA, signed b EU itself
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@michaelranger9104 No, EU was formed, in its embryo, in 1957, in Rome, by six countries: Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Italy, Germany and their respective head of states. The treaty give the name European Community to the new Union.
Again, uk wasn't there.
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@ewalker1057 "It just won't do LETTING Russia and China DOING as they please"
Bullying is a Chinese and Russian pastime. Russia and China ARE bickering, more than you know.
While America keep its partners close.
China is particularly dangerous, they act as the world supreme leaders and the Russians know they cannot be stopped by Russia alone.
LOL, Asians despise China. Vietnam and India got close ties with USA. Israel always got USA's back.
EU was created by Europeans in order to protecting Europeans and make the voice count, so they wouldn't have to kneel to bullies and arrogants the likes of the Chinese or Russian. Its currency is among the strongest and it's used in the place of the dollar.
Russia didn't create the pipeline because it could affoard to waste money. America run a well oiled economy, Russia run something that could collapse tomorrow. The Russians live with an in come of 5948 USD, Russia face a rise in hunger, poverty( 60% live below poverty line, 13% of Russians are poor majority children), drugs related problems....
You haven't got a clue. Is not that Russia didn't recover 2008, Russia has still to recover from 1991!
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@ewalker1057 LOL, doing as they please around the world is not for Russia and China to decide alone! USA and Europe won't just roll over and bend. Nor will others let them invade militarily(Russia) or through military and economics(China). If they think they can just divide the world among themselves as they please they are deadly wrong as the world has something to say about it and USA is always ready to be the policeman of the world, defending it against rascals and thieves like those two. Europeans are ready as well.
No, Asians don't like China. They fear Chinese and their increasingly aggressive policy. Taiwan don't want to be a part of China, nor do Korea and Japan. Armenia and Georgia and all the "stan" will do anything to avoid the evil bear clutches. Russia already invaded Crimea, has a part of Germany that should't be Russia, China has a piece of Mongolia, Mongolia which would like to get away from being China economic vassal. You seem very ignorant.
No, EU was born for peace and democracy
Go study History.
Europeans are not bickering with USA, nor are Asians or South Americans. You fancy yourself expert in economics, international politics and History, but you are lacking in all three subject. Putin has isolated Russia more than ever, its economy barely scraping by. China economy is also less than great. It stills depend a lot on Americans and Europeans factories and on trade with those two colossus. Those Russia and China problems, which USA and EUrope don't have, as they have their internal market and the rest of the world to trade with. So what will Russia be forced to do when Europeans decide it's not worth the trouble and just buy elsewhere? Collapse as it did already multiples time before?
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@mostlyguesses8385 Yes, it was
"Aims:
The aim of the EEC and the common market was to:
transform the conditions of trade and production on the territory of its 6 members and
serve as a step towards the closer political unification of Europe
Specific goals
The signatories agreed to:
lay the foundations of an ‘ever closer union’ among the peoples of Europe
ensure the economic and social progress of their countries by joint action to eliminate trade and other barriers between them;
improve their citizens’ living and working conditions;
ensure balanced trade and fair competition;
reduce the economic and social differences between the EEC’s various regions;
gradually abolish restrictions on international trade through a common trade policy;
abide by the principles of the UN charter;
pool their resources to preserve and strengthen peace and liberty and call on other peoples of Europe who share this ideal to join them in these efforts."
So EEC was always meant to be political as per treaty/treaties and Lisbon is just another step in that direction
EU budget has always been adequate with the aims and the needs. Oh and since we're talking about USA, you know USA were never meant to be a Federation?
In the Article of Confederation it's never mentioned, heck it's barely is in the 1779 constitution! And states were not giving a cent to Washington because of that and rightly so.
So, if anything, it's the Congress who overstepped, not the EU, which is a political alliance and not, like NATO, UN, NAFTA AND the Confederation of America a pooling of independent states.
So EU has all the right, as per treaties, to use the means it is using, against Hungary as well
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@mostlyguesses8385 Yes, it was
"Aims:
The aim of the EEC and the common market was to:
transform the conditions of trade and production on the territory of its 6 members and
serve as a step towards the closer political unification of Europe
Specific goals
The signatories agreed to:
lay the foundations of an ‘ever closer union’ among the peoples of Europe
ensure the economic and social progress of their countries by joint action to eliminate trade and other barriers between them;
improve their citizens’ living and working conditions;
ensure balanced trade and fair competition;
reduce the economic and social differences between the EEC’s various regions;
gradually abolish restrictions on international trade through a common trade policy;
abide by the principles of the UN charter;
pool their resources to preserve and strengthen peace and liberty and call on other peoples of Europe who share this ideal to join them in these efforts."
So EEC was always meant to be political as per treaty/treaties and Lisbon is just another step in that direction
EU budget has always been adequate with the aims and the needs. Oh and since we're talking about USA, you know USA were never meant to be a Federation?
In the Article of Confederation it's never mentioned, heck it's barely is in the 1779 constitution! And states were not giving a cent to Washington because of that and rightly so.
So, if anything, it's the Congress who overstepped, not the EU, which is a political alliance and not, like NATO, UN, NAFTA AND the Confederation of America a pooling of independent states.
So EU has all the right, as per treaties, to use the means it is using, against Hungary as well
USA didn't have anything against secession but made a war to force South to stay
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@mostlyguesses8385 Yes, it was
"Aims:
The aim of the EEC and the common market was to:
transform the conditions of trade and production on the territory of its 6 members and
serve as a step towards the closer political unification of Europe
Specific goals
The signatories agreed to:
lay the foundations of an ‘ever closer union’ among the peoples of Europe
ensure the economic and social progress of their countries by joint action to eliminate trade and other barriers between them;
improve their citizens’ living and working conditions;
ensure balanced trade and fair competition;
reduce the economic and social differences between the EEC’s various regions;
gradually abolish restrictions on international trade through a common trade policy;
abide by the principles of the UN charter;
pool their resources to preserve and strengthen peace and liberty and call on other peoples of Europe who share this ideal to join them in these efforts."
So EEC was always meant to be political as per treaty/treaties and Lisbon is just another step in that direction
EU budget has always been adequate with the aims and the needs. Oh and since we're talking about USA, you know USA were never meant to be a Federation?
In the Article of Confederation it's never mentioned, heck it's barely is in the 1779 constitution! And states were not giving a cent to Washington because of that and rightly so.
So, if anything, it's the Congress who overstepped, not the EU, which is a political alliance and not, like NATO, UN, NAFTA AND the Confederation of America a pooling of independent states.
There was no article in the new Constitution that said South couldn't secede either but Washington didn't want to hear it.
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@rathinmajumder441 Ahahahahahahaahahahahahahaaha which "reLiAblE souRces"? The Germans? The English? The same who make propaganda about Somme and Verdun, where TRUE RELIABLE SOURCES say they were defeats given how they lost twice as many Germans? This show your hypocrisy.
Rout no, but it was defeated, that's why it had to call Germany ( who got his behind sore battling against Russia) in 1916, to avoid being destroyed. So Italians did great, facing a superior army
I mean, Germans and Entente efforts were there too but couldn't defeat the enemy 2vs1, Germany and Austria against Russia and France and uk against Germany, because their warfare ability is comical.
Stop whining, is universally accepted the Allies bar Italy did horribly in WW1 and Germany did not fare better( had to wait for Russia to collapse), your bs makes no sense
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@slimdiddyd We followed you in each war you started. Otherwise Americans would have had more deaths. Not to mention, useful bases on our territory
Yeah, but Marshall Plan was mostly to avoid a repeat of 1929. So yeah...not for us, tough it aas helpful
So what? You had the best trade treaties and your economy grew large thanks to access our market. We let your currency be the international standards.
Now Europe remembered America's wars, trade or real, are not our owns, your enemy are not our own. We can live the teens with the biggest ego on the planet on their ownWe followed you in each war you started. Otherwise Americans would have had more deaths. Not to mention, useful bases on our territory
Yeah, but Marshall Plan was mostly to avoid a repeat of 1929. So yeah...not for us, tough it aas helpful
So what? You had the best trade treaties and your economy grew large thanks to access our market. We let your currency be the international standards.
Now Europe remembered America's wars, trade or real, are not our owns, your enemy are not our own. We can live the teens with the biggest ego on the planet alone and actually trade with others
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@slimdiddyd We followed you in all wars you started. Otherwise Americans would have had more deaths. Not to mention, useful bases on our territory
Yeah, but Marshall Plan was mostly to avoid a repeat of 1929. So yeah...not for us, tough it aas helpful
So what? You had the best trade treaties and your economy grew large thanks to access our market. We let your currency be the international standards.
Now Europe remembered America's wars, trade or real, are not our owns, your enemy are not our own. We can live the teens with the biggest ego on the planet on their ownWe followed you in each war you started. Otherwise Americans would have had more deaths. Not to mention, useful bases on our territory
Yeah, but Marshall Plan was mostly to avoid a repeat of 1929. So yeah...not for us, tough it aas helpful
So what? You had the best trade treaties and your economy grew large thanks to access our market. We let your currency be the international standards.
Now Europe remembered America's wars, trade or real, are not our owns, your enemy are not our own. We can live the teens with the biggest ego on the planet alone and actually trade with others
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@slimdiddyd We followed you in all wars you started. Otherwise Americans would have had more deaths. Not to mention, useful bases on our territory
Yeah, but Marshall Plan was mostly to avoid a repeat of 1929. So yeah...not for us, tough it aas helpful
So what? You had the best trade treaties and your economy grew large thanks to access our market. We let your currency be the international standards.
Now Europe remembered America's wars, trade or real, are not our owns, your enemy are not our own. We can live the teens with the biggest ego on the planet on their ownWe followed you in each war you started. Otherwise Americans would have had more deaths. Not to mention, useful bases on our territory
Yeah, but Marshall Plan was mostly to avoid a repeat of 1929. So yeah...not for us, tough it aas helpful
So what? You had the best trade treaties and your economy grew large thanks to access our market. We let your currency be the international standards.
Now Europe remembered America's wars, trade or real, are not our owns, your enemy are not our own. We can live the teens with the biggest ego on the planet alone and actually trade with others
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@michelebuccilli4979 "Fino a poco tempo fa non esistevano" di nuovo, te l'ho ha detto Putin? La guerra era evitabile facendo stare i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione è siete ingenui o in malafede. Ed è 'inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto.
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@michelebuccilli4979 "Fino a poco tempo fa non esistevano" di nuovo, te l'ho ha detto Putin? La guerra era evitabile facendo stare i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione è siete ingenui o in malafede. Ed è 'inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto.
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@michelebuccilli4979 Fino a poco tempo fa non esistevano" di nuovo, te l'ho ha detto Putin? La guerra era evitabile facendo stare i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione o siete ingenui o in malafede.
Ed è inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto.
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@michelebuccilli4979 "Fino a poco tempo fa non esistevano" di nuovo, te l'ho ha detto Putin? La guerra era evitabile facendo stare i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione è siete ingenui o in malafede.
Ed è inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto.
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@michelebuccilli4979 Fino a poco tempo fa non esistevano" di nuovo, te l'ho ha detto Putin? La guerra era evitabile facendo stare i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione o siete ingenui o comprati.
Ed è inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto.
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@michelebuccilli4979 Fino a poco tempo fa non esistevano" di nuovo, te l'ho ha detto il Cremlino? La guerra era evitabile facendo stare i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione o siete ingenui o in malafede.
Ed è inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto.
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@michelebuccilli4979 Fino a poco tempo fa non esistevano" di nuovo, te l'ho ha detto Cremlino? La guerra era evitabile facendo stare i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione o siete ingenui o in al soldo di Mosca.
Ed è inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto.
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@michelebuccilli4979 "Fino a poco tempo fa non esistevano" di nuovo, te l'ho ha detto Putin? La guerra era evitabile facendo stare i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione è siete ingenui o in malafede. Ed è 'inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto
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@michelebuccilli4979 Te l'ho ha detto Putin? La guerra era evitabile se i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione è siete ingenui o in malafede. Ed è 'inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto
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@michelebuccilli4979 "Fino a poco tempo fa non esistevano" di nuovo, te l'ho ha detto Putin? La guerra era evitabile facendo stare i russi a casa, non nel 2022 ma nel 2014. Non dare armi agli ucraini vuol dire semplicemente lasciare che i russi prendano l'Ucraina, la guerra finisce se, di nuovo, i russi si ritirano. Se nel 2024, dopo SECOLI di esperienze, dopo la Seconda Guerra Mondiale e quello che ha portato ad essa pensate che non aiutare l'aggredito sia la soluzione è siete ingenui o in malafede. Ed è 'inutile accusare chi non vuole che Putin vinca d'essere guerrafondaio, non è nell'interesse di nessuno che la Russia si prenda l'Ucraina se non quello dei russi stessi e forse, FORSE, dei cinesi, per cui chi vuole guerre in futuro siete voi, Adolf non si fermo alla Cecoslovacchia nel 1938, la maggioranza degli italiani e degli europei ha capito e infatti è dalla parte giusta, degli ucraini. Punto
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@Ji Oner Quello che dici sì, è falso
1) parte del prestito è a fobdo perduto
2) e quale sarebbe la cosa più simile? Il paragone con il BTP si può fare eccome, solo che non conviene a chi avversa l'Euro perché i fondi sono meno onerosi.
E no, i BTP hanno interessi più bassi ma non negativi e grazie alla BCE, non all'Italia
3) visto che ci prestano i soldi direi che possono valutare loro i progetti, visto sopratutto le capacità dei nostri politici
4) il paragone esiste visto che l'Italia quei soldi NON LI HA. E sì, sono i soldi dati in anni e anni, quindi? Anche la Germania li ha dati, non li richiede indietro, la Francia, secondo contributore, ne chiede meno di noi
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@Ji Oner Quello che ho detto lo è
1) Parte dei RF sono a fondo perduto, in parte con interessi PIÙ BASSI dei BTP
2) invece il paragone ha senso, sono due prestiti, NON crediti privilegiati, entrambi con interessi da applicarsi su un montante, che nel.caso dei RF è solo parziale.
I RF sono quindi molto più convenienti dei BTP, se non sai la differenza studia. Il fatto che l'EU ci chieda progetti seri è rassicurante, visto i disastri fatti dalla nostra classe politica.
Sì, la Banca d'Italia comprava una volta e l'inflazione era altissimo. Il tutto per il beneficio di quattro cazzoni di politici nostrani, mica dei cittadini italiani.
E no, i tassi BTP sono alti, perché l'Italia deve offrire una garanzia maggiore avendo titoli più rischiosi, non fosse per la BCE collocarli sarebbe difficile( e ti sbagli sull'interesse nullo)
3) sbagliato, 200 miliardi sono più o meno la cifra che l'Italia ha versato dall'inizio, essere contributori netti non vuol dire versare 200 miliardi a botta. E l'Italia li versa perché l'Europa purtroppo non ha un governo Federale e un bilancio. Se non li versassimo dovremmo uscire
con conseguente gravose perché l'Italia
4) i soldi NON LI HA. Non abbiamo 200 miliardi a disposizione, il bilancio è in rosso, di fatto dobbiamo chiedere prestiti. Stampare moneta, come già detto, creerebbe solo inflazione.
Non devi ringraziare nessuno ma per lo meno devi essere cosciente che quei soldi non sono tutti tuoi, una parte è stata versata dài "krukki", gli olandesi etc...e quindi NON sono un tuo diritto. Quindi i nostri politici non possono decidere di sputtanarli( il "bobolo" italiano non decide, i politici sì, poi danno prebende ai gonzi che li votano) come vogliono, si chiama RESPONSABILITÀ. Se a un paese non piace esce, questo concetto vale anche per Polonia ed Ungheria.
Io sono contro l'uscita come la maggioranza degli italiani, quindi o ti adegui o emigri in Russia o Venezuela.
Ora va a studiare, ignorante.
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@ianc7866 It might had to, since t's an uk based company and because uk demand was, strangely, fulfilled, while Eu's wasn't. How peculiar. Beside, it's not the only thing I referred to
I think you will find that Civil law, contrary to common law, progressed since the past, common law is stuck in 1066.
Again, that doesn't mean anything.
Japan and Sweden use Civil law, Myanmar and Uganda common law. Who do you trust the most?
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@chiaramattera2528 Io ho detto in parte, non tutto ed è vero che in parte i RF sono a fondo perduto
Tu CREDI molte cose, perlopiù sbagliate, i fatti dicono altro. È vero che il lockdown frena l'economia, ma al momento è l'unica misura necessaria, e l'ha presa il governo italiano come tanti altri governi europei.
Per quanto riguarda i tassi, la parte dei RF a presisto è ad un interesse più basso che quello dei BTP.
Le regole ci sono per tutti e tutti competono sullo stesso mercato con queste regole, dove sarebbe la slealtà?
In quanto alla politica immigrazionistica non ci è imposta dall'Europa, l'Europa non impone proprio nulla.
Genio, la "pRIvATiZZaziOne" della Banca d'Italia, che rimane comunque sotto il controllo delo Stato, è avvenuto almeno 40 anni fa e non ci ha comportato alcuna "pERdiTa DI sOVRanità", tutti gli Stati sono ancora sovrani in EU.
O sei molto ignorante o sei un bot. Temo sia la prima ma non smetto di sperare che sia la seconda
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@Luredreier HAHAHA sure, better, you can choose between Vladimir Putin, Putin Vladimir, Adolf Putin, Vladimir Hitler Putin....
As for the press, in USA is free and has many voices, in Russia only one, that of the man in the Kremlin
In USA you can run as an independent if you have enough votes. It would be better if it allowed s third party though, but that's the difference between USA and Russia: one is a flawed democracy yes but a democracy that can be improved, the other a one party/one man dictatorship where dissent is put down violently. I USA you can make your voice heard
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@Россияэтосило Se la frase fa riferimenti a FATTI, e la mia lo fa, sì. Del resto basta guardare come ti approcci alla discussione, ma ovviamente neghi neghi neghi come insegnano alla scuola di propaganda russa
E non temi neanche di mostrare la tua ignoranza anzi, ne vai fiero: il debito non è solo nei confronti degli Stati Uniti ma di chiunque lo compra, punto primo.
Punto secondo, hai prove di quello che dici sulle tasse?
Punto terzo: colonia è avere un dittatore a capo, che fa tutto quello che un altro dittatore di una nazione vicina dice, incluso mettere missili nucleari a seguito dell'entrata di un Paese nella NATO. Ah, ma quella è la Bielorussia. Ecco, quello è essere colonia.
PUNTO
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@7macfly2 Because their use would make France a pariah. Because if the other country has nukes too France disappears.
AHAHAH what you saw? Lol, you didn't go near, one of my friend hace, French military, including the army, was a circus
Leonardo is the biggest manufacturer behind Chinese and Americans, on par with uk. France is not even on the radar
Italy has more and better artillery, aircarriers, tanks, planes, better soldiers...
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@wilderbeast9368 It is a funny irony, as I'm correct, since I say the Truth, while you're are incorrect, since you are saying lies, ranting gammon
The far right is too ignorant to understand anything "muh LeFTisT,muh stUPId, muh bs, muh I'm delusional"
correlation=/causation
correlation-->/causation
That's how it is, ANTIVAX c**t
The fact you had to use insults means you had no arguments. I didn't insult you once, I prefer arguments.
Thank for making all the work for me. Go study Science and the art of debate.
You just showed I'm right. Deal with it and grow up before confronting adults
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@wilderbeast9368 It is a funny irony, as I'm correct, since I say the Truth, while you're are incorrect, since you are saying lies, ranting gammon
The far right is too ignorant to understand anything "muh LeFTisT,muh stUPId, muh bs, muh I'm delusional"
correlation=/causation
correlation-->/causation
That's how it is, ANTIVAX c**t
The fact you had to use insults means you had no arguments. I didn't insult you once, I prefer arguments.
Thank for making all the work for me. Go study Science and the art of debate.
You just showed I'm right. Deal with it and grow up before confronting adults
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@wilderbeast9368 It is a funny irony, as I'm correct, since I say the Truth, while you're are incorrect, since you are saying lies, ranting gammon
The far right is too ignorant to understand anything "muh LeFTisT,muh stUPId, muh bs, muh I'm delusional"
correlation=/causation
correlation-->/causation
That's how it is, ANTIVAX c**t
The fact you had to use insults means you had no arguments. I didn't insult you once, I prefer arguments.
Thank for making all the work for me. Go study Science and the art of debate.
You just showed I'm right. Deal with it and grow up before confronting adults
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@wilderbeast9368 It is a funny irony, as I'm correct, since I say the Truth, while you're are incorrect, since you are saying lies, ranting gammon
The far right is too ignorant to understand anything "muh LeFTisT,muh stUPId, muh bs, muh I'm delusional"
correlation=/causation
correlation-->/causation
That's how it is, ANTIVAX c**t
The fact you had to use insults means you had no arguments. I didn't insult you once, I prefer arguments.
Thank for making all the work for me. Go study Science and the art of debate.
You just showed I'm right. Deal with it and grow up before confronting adults
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@wilderbeast9368 It is a funny irony, as I'm correct, since I say the Truth, while you're are incorrect, since you are saying lies, ranting gammon
The far right is too ignorant to understand anything "muh LeFTisT,muh stUPId, muh bs, muh I'm delusional"
correlation=/causation
correlation-->/causation
That's how it is, ANTIVAX c**t
The fact you had to use insults means you had no arguments. I didn't insult you once, I prefer arguments.
Thank for making all the work for me. Go study Science and the art of debate.
You just showed I'm right. Deal with it and grow up before confronting adults
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@wilderbeast9368 It is a funny irony, as I'm correct, since I say the Truth, while you're are incorrect, since you are saying lies, ranting gammon
The far right is too ignorant to understand anything "muh LeFTisT,muh stUPId, muh bs, muh I'm delusional"
correlation=/causation
correlation-->/causation
That's how it is, ANTIVAX c**t
The fact you had to use insults means you had no arguments. I didn't insult you once, I prefer arguments.
Thank for making all the work for me. Go study Science and the art of debate.
You just showed I'm right. Deal with it and grow up before confronting adults
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@wilderbeast9368 It is a funny irony, as I'm correct, since I say the Truth, while you're are incorrect, since you are saying lies, ranting gammon
The far right is too ignorant to understand anything "muh LeFTisT,muh stUPId, muh bs, muh I'm delusional"
correlation=/causation
correlation-->/causation
That's how it is, ANTIVAX c**t
The fact you had to use insults means you had no arguments. I didn't insult you once, I prefer arguments.
Thank for making all the work for me. Go study Science and the art of debate.
You just showed I'm right. Deal with it and grow up before confronting adults
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@tszirmay Why? What's wrong with Madonna Mia?
Well, we were talking about the ancestry of the inhabitants and in that yes, it's the same.
Yes I did and I confirm it, I wrote useless as in useless for our projects if an European Federation, a dream which they don't share.
I'm sorry for those who don't agree with those policies but what I'm supposed to do if their own people voted, with a majority, for them? The same it's happening with uk, many British did nor agree with brexit and everything but the majority voted, what are we Europeans citizens supposed to do exactly? I do not belittle their ethnicity or citizenship, I just take note of their preferences. Which are those leaders with very questionable values and demeanor
EU is a democracy, notwithstanding what you say: the main organs are elected directly or indirectly. And it's based on democracy, freedom and equality among all people. You can disagree with those value but you cannot disagree and ask to stay in.
Ps: direct democracy doesn't always work. I'm not against it but I'm not in favour either
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@KaiCluster It's you who don't get it. Facts are Facts and don't change because of perception. Gravity exist, so an object will always fall towards the ground. Antivaxxer are arrogant because they think believing is enough to shatter TONS of scientific data. I KNOW how vaccine works, I based my knowledge on Science, you antivax don't, you believe some baseless theory and think that's enough, no matter if there is no data to support it. You are a fine example of it: even if what you said was true, how many could just say the contrary? It's like saying "seat belts/brakes are useless, my family never used them and we are still alive". But 5 millions are DEAD: And this are an approximation, some estimate give 20 millions deaths, as much as the lower estimate of the Spanish flu! But your precious conspiracy theorist aren't interested in data and proofs are they? I advise you to STUDY Science, so you will understand that virus, like bacteria, change with their environment( it's called evolution, look it up) and that's why there is a new vaccine every year! Bacteria and virus don't mutate when the body react promptly and swiftly, but when it cannot react quickly enough or the fight go on and on and on and the pathogen keep spreadingt. That's why you don't see smallpox or polio around anymore. That's why vaccinated people don't end up breathing through a machine.
Be thankful Covid19 isn't as deadly as H1N1...what's that you say? the virus that cause Spanish flu! If Covid19 was anywhere near that we would have millions of dead people.
What's the rate of vaccination in your country, "genius"? You know some people CAN'T get the vaccine? That's why we should. you live in a society, you follow the rules. Otherwise go live in the woods AND NEVER COME OUT
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@tomorrowneverdies567 It's you who should PROVE they did
"But even if they did not, they felt the unification of the german states as something either neutral or positive, and did not see any important negativities coming from it. So this is why they accepted it" not so democratic....and by this reasoning, if Europeans accept the EU is all good then. I don't see big protest and revolts in Greece. Do you?
Like if it was a German, Spanish Greek, Italians, English identity it wasn't in the first order of importance, as the regional feeling was much more important
"Corsican were NOT okay with Parsi being their overlords - so why did they not revolt to gain independence from France? :)" They did. Many times
""Prussia took much of its territory with war - yeah, it did. So?" So much for "muh Germany identity"
"Spain was formed by territories that were not so happy by the union (among which Catalonia and Basque country) - so why have they not revolted to gain independence from Spain? :) What are they waiting for? :)" Never heard of ETA. did you?
"The Act of Union was a scam and sparked protest. - and yet 316 years afterwards, scottish people want Scotland to remain a constituent country of the UK. So what is your point here again?" They did immediately and got killed in droves. Is this your idea of unity? LOL. Why don't the English give them a referendum if they are sure Scots will stay? Why don't they give it to Wales? Or NI?
"yes. As they are now. Create a federation while people do not want it, and you will see people hating Brussels in little time. I myself like the EU, but as it is now (with a reformation that I will maybe elaborate on later). Not as a federation." No, if they don't protest while they make it means they accept it, you said it didn't you? LMAO
LOL, search on the vocabulary the meaning of EUROPEAN. You said yourself: AFRICAN COUNTRIES
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Diagonal Ahahahahahahaahahahahahahaaha ma sei un comico nato!
1)No, la mortalità nei gulag era alta
2) LMAO, Stalin non ha mai commesso omici occulti? Ahahahahahaha Trotsky fu ammazzato in Messico su ordine di Stalin, ti ricordo, dopo essere fuggito per evitare di essere al muro come gli altri, perche prr Stalin anche i gulag erano troppo poco! I processi era farzeschi e molto spesso manco avvenivano: venivi preso, portato davanti ad un "giudice?" ascoltavi la tua condanna, ti portavano di fronte ad un muro e....
Kirov fu probabilmente una delle vittime.
3) In Urss come negli altri stati comunisti qualunque partito non comunista era ILLEGALE. I pochi che nascevano sparivano "spontaneamente", o "erano suicidati"
3) Stalin era il supremo leader e tanto l'NKDV che l'esercito, dopo le dovute purghe, obbedivano a lui. Mussolini al confronto era un gentiluomo: lui non uccise Farinacci e compagni( e avrebbe potuto farlo, forse l'Italia ne avrebbe giovato) e non deteneva un potere assoluto.
L'Urss era una dittatura con un capo non eletto ne scelto in modo democratico, al contrario del Regno Unito( il cui Primo Ministro è scelto dal re nel partito vincitore di REGOLARI elezioni) del Presidente ( scelto tramite elezioni) e persino dell'Italia fascista.
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@itacom2199 Preferisci Franco? Videla? Un dittatore africano a caso, i cui morti vano rivisti a ribasso?
Come chi ha fatto ricerche sull'Olocausto dice che 6 milioni e 12 totali sono esagerati. Anche loro, come te, credono di sapere tutto.
E io non mi guardo i video di "kompagni".
Il comunismo e il fascismo sono entrambi dittature totalitarie, tant'è che quando hanno potuto si sono alleati o avevano comunque tratti in comune, come l'antisemitismo.
Verme rosso, con che faccia parli TU di Storia, tu che ipocritamente critichi i regimi fascisti ma difendi quelli disgustosi comunisti? Tu che non sai nemmeno che quela fu una vera e propria alleanza fatta per spartirsi la Polonia e che permise l'aggressione alla Francia? Per no parlare della fantasia che le democrazie fossero alleate dei fascismi? Ma va a STUDIARE!
Il capitalismo è sopravvissuto facendo quello che il comunismo non è riuscito a fare: cambiando, seppur di poco, rivalutando modelli etc... il COMUNISMO, il socialismo è un'altra cosa, solo nelle dittature dove il controllo dello Stato è quasj totale, come in Nord Corea e parzialmente in Ciba ed a Cuba.
Voi non siete giovani, siete nati vecchi, come la vostra ideologia malata. Siete fossili viventi e dovreste stare a Jurassic Park
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@itacom2199 In effetti non ha senso: il comunismo ha FALLITO, è un fatto e se tu credi che sia il sistema economico d'eccellenza sei ignorante di economia o molto stupido.
Eh no, quelle materie permisero ad una Germania ancora alla prime armi, letteralmente, di soverchiare parte dell'occidente, con cui era in guerra.
No, venne ucciso perchè Stalin voleva conservare il suo potere, le purghe non sono successe né sotto il fascismo né sotto Pinochet.
Il socialismo sì che esiste da prima di Marx, infatti il comunismo è la sua versione putrida e farlocca, quello che tu chiami socialismo non è socialismo, il socialismo è democratico, il comunismo no.
AHAHAHAHAH eccolo qui, il "urSS CinA, CoREa, CUbA etc...Non EranO/SonO ComUNIsTI". Che avevo scritto? Che uno di voi due lo avrebbe detto. Dunque il comunismo o è INAPPLICABILE socialmente ed economicamente o è quello visto fin'ora e grazie a Dio è fallito. Una risata vi ha già seppellito nei liquami, voi vi ostinate a tornare come zombi putrefatti ma morti siete(come ideologia) e morti resterete.
Di nuovo, se vuoi l'ultima parola non hai che da chiedere: "gentilmente, potresti darmi l'ultima parola, così posso vantarmi all'ospizio?"
Ora va a belare con i tuoi simili e se ci riesci STUDIA.
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@itacom2199 Con che cosa ti pulisci, se ti pulisci, cosa di cui dubito, è affare tuo. Direi solo che non sarebbe il caso di darti la mano, per sicurezza.
Voi siete FOSSILI viventi, il comunismo è caduto perchè aveva FALLITO, nel 1991 era da 30 anni che l'Urss non cresceva, gli Stati Uniti non hanno dovuto far altro che aspettare che il sistema comunista collassasse su se stesso. Certo, il SOCIALISMO è sopravvissuto, perchè come la democrazia e il capitalismo, e al contrario del comunismo, non è una fede ed è capace di migliorarsi. Dire che non è così è essere deliranti.
Come delirante è la tua descrizione della Storia del patto Molotov-Ribbentrop, che non permise alla Germania di riamarsi, io non ho scritto questo, ma le permise di avere le risorse per conquistare parte dell'Europa Occidentale e ingigantire la produzione. per cui chi finanzio la Germania nazista fu l'Urss. Come si dice, culo e camicia....
"Nel corso del processo Bucharin si dichiarò pentito di quanto fatto e indicò in Trotsky il principale motore del movimento controrivoluzionario. Fu così condannato e giustiziato dall'NKVD. Bucharin è stato poi riabilitato ufficialmente dallo stato sovietico sotto Michail Gorbačëv nel 1988
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Sappiamo quali erano i metodi di interrogazioni delle polizie dittatoriali. Interessante poi, che secondo Bucharin Tronsky e non Stalin fosse il successore di Lenin. Nel fascismo non ci furono grandi purghe, tant'è che Farinacci e altre teste calde vissero e in Cile Pinochet mise sotto chiave elementi pericolosi della società.
AHAHAHAHA ancora, dire che il comunismo "nON è Mai EsistITO" è patetico e porta a due conclusioni: o il comunismo è una teoria senza vere basi sociali ed economiche o era destinato ad essere quella mostruosa dittatura/ quelle mostruose dittature che abbiamo visto, non c'è scampo. E per quanto Marx abbia cercato di nobilitarlo facendo un paragone con il socialismo, il comunismo ha ben poco in comune. Questi sono i fatti ciccio.
Il mondo si sta evolvendo e il capitalismo classico è obsoleto, se non troverà una soluzione verrà rimpiazzato ma vedi, questa è la differenza fra capitalismo e comunismo: il primo capisce dove non funziona e cerca di porvi rimedio, il secondo continua dritto fino all'inevitabile distruzione.
Se non è zuppa è pan bagnato: se non sei dell'ospizio vorrà dire che invece sarai un bambino dell'asilo. Un ventenne non può (s)ragionare come fai tu ed essere ritenuto sano di mente
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Diagonal Di nuovo, non sai una ceppa di socialismo o non diresti che il comunismo ne è la continuazione: da nessuna parte i partiti socialisti e comunisti sono andati d'amore e d'accordo e per nessuna parte intendo le DEMOCRAZIE. E hai voglia a ripetere che nel comunsimo "lO StatO nON esiTE", quello è un mantra ma, come detto, o rende il comunismo una divertente teoria e nulla più oppure quello che abbiamo visto.
Ora, e mi rivolgo ad entrambi, abbiamo finito? Tanto voi continuate ad enunciare teorie la cui prova o non esiste o è stata negativa. Io detesto le dittature, TUTTE. E un'ideologia che non può che finire nel sangue non mi piace, proprio per nulla. La democrazia sarà pieni di difetti ma a me l'alternativa, fascismi o comunismi, sembrano peggiori. il capitalismo e il socialismo non sono incompatibili coon la democrazia. Il comunismo e i fascismi sì
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@itacom2199 Non si chiude quando lo dici te ma quando lo dico io
Pensavi di avere l'esclusiva della risata? Capisco che per un pagliaccio come te si tratta di lavoro.....
La crescita dell'Urss si fermò a metà degli anni '60. Già allora il problema di come sfamare la popolazione si fece pressante.
Negli anni '30 gli Stati Uniti erano già la prima economia del mondo, l'Urss andava avanti a piani quinquennali. Il comunismo, il socialismo è un'altra cosa, non esiste più eccetto che nella Corea del Nord, Cuba e qualche altro paese africano FORSE. Il socialismo esiste in diversi Paesi perchè, come già detto, è in grado di adattarsi, come il capitalismo, il comunismo no.
L'Urss non pensava ad un'invasione tedesca, ma proprio per nulla, e neanche i tedeschi ci pensavano fino a che il Regno unito non fermò l'avanzata sulla Manica, dopo che la Germania invase e/o sconfisse Francia, Norvegia, Danimarca....tutto grazie ai sovietici.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH e questa dove l'hai letta? Gli inviati di altre nazioni c'erano. forse, ma nell'Italia fascista o nel Cile di Pinochet, non nell'Urss! Vogliamo parlare di come Stalin di fatto prese la successione con la forza NONOSTANTE Lenin avesse scritto che lui non avrebbe dovuto diventare segretario? Nel fascismo tali purghe non avvennero!
Povero tovarish trinariciuto! Viva l'Armata Bianca! Accettalo: o il comunismo, che non ha niente di scientifico al contrario del capitalismo, è irrealizzabile o lo è e il risultato è quello visto! Voi "kompagni" siete ridicoli, parlate di capitalismo ma nessuno di voi avrà letto Smith, Keynes, Markowitz, Friedman etc....non conoscete una teoria di economia o non ne capite le applicazioni, non avendo mai aperto un libro. E fate la morale, ipocriti trinariciuti, sbagliando fra l'altro perchè non capite un ciufolo neppure di socialismo!
"Il capitalismo non è intelligente, non è bello, non è giusto, non è virtuoso e non produce i beni necessari. In breve, non ci piace e stiamo cominciando a disprezzarlo. Ma quando ci chiediamo cosa mettere al suo posto, restiamo estremamente perplessi"
"Contro la stupidità anche gli dei sono impotenti. Ci vorrebbe il Signore. Ma dovrebbe scendere lui di persona, non mandare il Figlio; non è il momento dei bambini." Sai chi disse queste due frasi, la seconda delle quali si applica perfettamente a te? Scoprilo. Magari studiando capirai la differenza fra dati e fanatismo ideologico.
Il comunismo non è democratico e infatti Cuba, come ogni sistema comunista non è democratica. Gli Stati uniti lo sono. Il Regno Unito, l'Italia, la Francia etc... lo sono. Certo, il capitalismo si adatta ANCHE alle dittature. Ma ci sono tante democrazie quante sono le dittature e vale lo stesso per il socialismo. Mentre non c'è UNA democrazia con il comunismo.
ORA possiamo chiuderla qui
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@СергейЯненко-ъ3у He was never a friend of USA, not really.
I never said they didn't bomb civilians, they didn't however do it on purpose. Dresden was in WW2 and if you want to go there, see what Russia did....
I can insult Biden in his face, I can't do the same to Putin. Assange disclosed military secrets and it's still alive, with Putin he would have coffe spiked with Polonium.
We can choose, through elections, not rigged democratic elections, something you've clearly never known. It's not perfect but it works better than the alternative. Saying they don't exist it's just a mean to justify whatever those in power do
Russia put money and soldiers in the East of Ukraine to fund anon existing separatism when UKRAINIANS DECIDED they'd be better with the West. Putin's war is nothing but imperialism and genocide, he doesn't see Ukrainians as Russians, he want to replace 'em
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Diagonal "tutto ciò che viene fatto per migliorare le condizioni di vita nelle città, e per costruire industrie, comunicazioni e macchine da guerra, viene fatto a spese dei contadini…”.
"Ci è stata data… una stanza così piccola che, quando ci sono stati consegnati i nostri bauli e le bici, abbiamo dovuto mettere dei ganci al soffitto e appenderli sopra i nostri letti. C’era solo una stufa elettrica come riscaldamento centralizzato e un gabinetto con un rubinetto di acqua fredda in corridoio. Le pareti erano fatte di fogli di compensato con sei o otto pollici [15-20 cm; ndr] di paglia e letame stipato tra di loro… un luogo di riproduzione perfetto per scarafaggi e parassiti di ogni sorta.”
"“Mangiavamo spesso nella caffetteria cooperativa invece che al ristorante speciale per stranieri, dove veniva offerto un cibo di qualità migliore allo stesso prezzo. Non volevamo favorire questo tipo di discriminazione di casta. Di solito c’era una grande scodella di schchi, o zuppa di cavoli, un grosso pezzo di pane nero e una tazza di tè leggero… Non avevamo burro per molti mesi; la carne fresca era un lusso raro, anche se occasionalmente c’erano alcuni pesci essiccati, la frutta fresca non esisteva proprio."
"“…Verso la fine di agosto, qualche colpo alla porta a mezzanotte ha preceduto l’arresto da parte della polizia segreta di un operaio italiano che era stato a Gorkij abbastanza a lungo da sposarsi e avere diversi figli. Il giorno seguente si sparse la voce che era stato in combutta con i trotzkisti e che sarebbe stato spedito in Siberia… Niente processo, nessuna difesa… Il linciaggio fu incoraggiato in ogni fabbrica in Russia… In queste circostanze, chiacchierare di politica era un tabù, ed era solo in quelle rare occasioni in cui eravamo soli con gli amici in una passeggiata attraverso i boschi o forse su una barca a remi nel mezzo del fiume Okà che potevamo parlare con un lavoratore russo della sua opinione sul regime di Stalin…”.
Tratto dalle memorie di William C. Bullitt, Victor G. Reuther e George F. Kennan
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@LuisAldamiz For the same reasons the Entente powers didn't give Italy what promised: weakened a possible threat. After all they didn't in 1908, and the Treaty explicitly said they should have
Controlling Egypt, Malta, Tunisia...meant controlling the Mediterranean. You think Austria would have wanted it?
LOL, Italy was winning until 1916 with Austria. The Mountain are mountain, same everywhere and I don't think French were prepared to fight on them, giving they and the rest of the Entente was quite pathetic, so much that only a diversion of German troops saved Paris, who could be defended by troops drawn from the Alpine front. Not if Italy entered though
On maritime front, with Italy, Turkey, AH on the same side, (France would be out of the war one Paris fell, colonies wouldn't just obey a defeated country) controlling the Mediterranean could've been difficult and any attempt to invade any of those countries would end hilariously bad as it did in Gallipoli. Not to mention, nor France nor uk navy did much in that war.
Worth to mention that had Italy not destroyed AH war could have gone on a little more and Entente was as tired as the Central powers
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@suburbanyobbo9412 What's to explain? AstraZeneca made a contract with EU promising to deliver 300 millions doses, EU payed 366 millions upfront, but AstraZeneca failed to deliver to EU and now it demands to ship to others nations despite not having fulfilled the contract and despite the option EU has, contractually, to stop delivers from factories in it's own territories. That's EU criticism and it's on point. Now it's your turn
And no, you are not correct, since uk is a political subject while Great Britain it's an island, thus a geographical description, and cannot be used if referring to uk, while I'm indeed correct: EU is short for European Union, union of Europeans, or united Europe, so Europe can be both a geographical description and a political one
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@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
Race don't exist in the first place.
"I am not ček" I assumed you are since in the video Czechoslovakia is described as eurosceptic
By the way, I can barely understand your broken English (ček is not English) so you should write better
Again, royal you, you didn't vote like your generation and your relatives voted no, but someone must have voted yes.
Ah, I see you are Latvian. Let me guess, you'd prefer "Mother Rossya" da? If a part of your country asked to separate you'd agree since they are natives? And no, no everyone speak your language, Selonia and Latgale speak Russian
Lol, so? If you don't agree to let people go you are not. By the way, EU is considered democratic too
Again, Russians in the South East might not agree
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@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 The right writing is Chechia
"Spelling is a completely backwards consept that should exist" again, it doesn't make sense nor does this phrase. What is a "consept"???
"Once can hardly test his own skills so I will point you to my gread 12 english exam (the same one they took in Great Britain that year that grade) gave me a 98% score" are you sure you are not confusing it with the exam in the 6th grade where the teacher gave you one star and a "good job" remark?
"I dont think youve considered that Im not trying, I let my fingers click away and what ends up being 'spelled' good enough I have no respect for this languages writing anyway" then you have really no business giving other people advice if you don't even respect the language you allegedly studied
"I dont want to leave Europe, thats not possible. I want to leave the EU because it is an enemy of Europian civilization." EU is the union of Europeans but why do you want to leave it if you despise Russia? In what way it's the EU an enemy of Europeans?
"WHAT ARE YOU ON?!? By my definition russijans are natives of Russija and only Russija, and ony latvieši are natives of Latvija. Whos land it is is usually in the name, atleast in the Old World." no, by your own word, the russian speaking LATVIAN are as native as you are
"Are you aquanted with any russijans of Latvija? Do you play chess or dota or fooball with them? Can you speak russijan to comunicate with the monolingual ones? Do you have friends who are dating russijans from Latvija? For me the answer to all of these questions is yes so let me tell you, russijans in Latvija do not want to end up like the russijans in Doņeck. And you dont even have to trust me, you can trust Latvijas government, which has reenacted conscription not fearing that local russijan coscripts would side with invadors" the russophone Latvian YOU know
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@mattysti947 No, Italy was mostly homogenous BEFORE. Again, more than BYZANTINE empire
5) no, beside some regional specific food every food has similar aspect, same for wines, and it was also in Middle Ages. Culture is very similar as well
No, most Europeans came from the Germanic invaders, they kept some of Latin culture but not as much as Italy. Spain is very much more Germanic and Arabic than Italy, they were invaded first by Vandals then became Arabic for centuries
Italian dialects are more similar than Spanish or French are to Italians.
Byzantine is a mixture of Greek, Slavs, Turks and Germanic influences
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@mattysti947 4)No, Italy was mostly homogenous culturally BEFORE, despisome differences
Again, more than BYZANTINE empire
5)Beside some regional specific food every food has similar aspect, same for wines, and it was also in Middle Ages. Culture is very similar as well
No, most Europeans came from the Germanic, they kept some of Latin culture but not as much as Italy. Spain is very much more Germanic and Arabic than Italy, they were invaded first by Vandals then became Arabic for centuries. There us nothing wrong in that, just they ain't close to Romans
Italian dialects are more similar than Spanish or French are to Italians.
Byzantine is a mixture of Greek, Slavs, Turks and Germanic influences
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@esti-od1mz "Il MIS partecipò quindi alle prime elezioni regionali siciliane del 20 aprile 1947, dove rimase fermo ai risultati del 1946, con 171.470 voti (8,8%) e ottenne nove deputati all'Assemblea regionale siciliana: Andrea Finocchiaro Aprile (nel 1948 sostituito da Vincenzo Bongiorno)[5], Gioacchino Germanà, Concetto Gallo, Attilio Castrogiovanni, Giuseppe Caltabiano, Rosario Cacopardo, Gaetano Drago, Francesco Paolo Lo Presti e Pietro Landolina.
In occasione delle elezioni politiche del 1948 il MIS dette vita, insieme a varie formazioni territoriali, all'Unione Movimenti Federalisti: la lista ricevette 52 000 voti (pari al 2,1% in Sicilia e allo 0,20% su scala nazionale) senza conseguire alcun seggio; Finocchiaro Aprile, candidato nella circoscrizione di Palermo, non fu dunque rieletto.
La fine
Dopo la bocciatura elettorale Finocchiaro Aprile si dimise da presidente del Movimento per l'indipendenza siciliana, ormai ridotto ad una semplice sigla.[6]
Quel che restava del movimento alle elezioni regionali in Sicilia del 1951, presentatosi solo nel collegio di Catania, non ottenne nessun seggio."
LOL
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@kumadoronuma2173 I figured you were biased, I am Italian and I use the rightful name: ISONZO, TRIEST, ISTRIA, CAPODISTRIA, POLA.
Seem like you wish to relieve the good old days of AH or Tito, committing genocides on the Italians. Italy won in WW1, regaining part of its sacred soil, sadly partially lost in WW2, under foreign occupation for a century
Slovens and Croats have way too many right, right Italians didn't have and I bet still don't have.
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@Bessie Hillum Uhm no, we lack the God's complex of your Anglo inselafflen
It was Ireland who refused it until it was changed from Constitution to simple treaty, then they willingly voted yes. And the change is all but in the name only : Lisbon treaty lacks of the fundamental qualities of a Constitution.
No, it wasn't by choice: Scotland was forced in the Union, after English caused the Darien disaster by refusing trade with Scotland. Scots didn't want it and protested under the Parliament, but the English already bribed some Mps. USA is way more successful than uk and so is Eu, whose participation is, at least, willed by the people of each state. And the English did again in 2014, promising a lot of bs and making threats so the Scots would vote no.
i guess Eu should have employed English tactics and bribe some Mps or scare the English into staying?
What are you even talking about? What has Rome to do with the Reich, the German or the English one? EU is spiritually close to Rome as in civilization, but thankfully it doesn't base itself on war like the descendant of the barbarians, Nazi ussk crime syndicate, which is basically England way to put their jackboots on poor Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish, who know want to get free.
You Nazi know it very well but you prefer pretending Nazi ussk titanic isn't sinking. Face it, England is going back where it belongs, to be what it was:a big nothing. IT'S OVER.
ps; I don't blame you for your ignorance of History: we know English schools are not good
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@Bessie Hillum I admit, I only wrote the Irish because I thought it hit close home, since you English always hope Ireland ditch EU to get under your jackboot again. i knew about France but the same as Ireland applies:their political body, the Parliament, said yes. No need to encourage them with troops stationed on the border, like England did with Scotland. Worth to mention, Ireland was a separate kingdom but an act of union wasn't passed until 1801
You probably thought I didn't know or you are on drugs, or you are clearly ignorant about politics, History and the Law, but that's how it is: EU is legitimate, uk it's not
It's not surprising, giving History, Scotland and Irish don't trust English and you only confirmed this with brexit (one of the promises during 2014 referendum was that uk would have never left EU), the threats of breaking treaties like the WA and GFA, the false promises of 2014 referendum....
English closed their ports to Scots ships, an act that, if done against England, would've provoked a war. An act of piracy, not that England is new to piracy...
Scotland, like Ireland, could sustain itself and become, like Ireland, rich and wealthy. Guess why that's not happening? Exactly, Nazi ussk. England use Scotland oil and resources to get rich, as it did to Wales, leaving the scraps for everyone else. one could argue their were the first colonies of the crime syndicate that ruined Earth in 1800 early 1900. that's Nazism for you and yes, English were factually the proto nazi from which Hitler took inspiration from.
USA is another fine example of how successful can a Nation be once they ditch the English jackboots and get an influx of migrants able to work to build something instead of sucking the blood from populations like parasites: Chinese, Irish, Italians, Japanese etc... etc...made USA the great nation they are today. Not the same can be said for the poor nations who suffered under the anglo leeches the longer or that didn't get cruel but more civilized colonizers than the English.
EU is very different from Nazi ussk because is a country, with a centralized bank of the Union, the BCE, with 27 states while Nazi ussk is a dictatorship with countries subjected to a English bank and a English government. Canzuk is just another delusion of the English: those states are, despite English genocide and replacement of native population, not to keen to get under English's feet, while EU state are all united in their long struggle for democracy, peace and cooperation. I wonder what your thought are on the fact both Australia and New Zealand made it clear their economic interests aligned with USA and they won't bother with this pipe dream. Same for Canada, who is also close to EU.
The same closeness doesn't exist with EU and Nazi ussk, not after England behaved like a self important brat, as partially described above. English tried all the cheats and dirty move in the playbook, from attempted bribe to threatening , something you might find hilarious but that every European, in love with democracy, find abhorrent, but EU stood its ground. the vaccines hoarding is only the last proof of England's rotten soul. But that's how you nazi are.
Europeans fought Napoleon; nazi and Bolsheviks when English were running as you always do.
PS: Irish won't have to fight EU, they don't have to fear starvation, Eu doesn't have the same habits as England (who starved both India and Ireland)
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@Bessie Hillum Do you have any proof EU forced Irish to vote yes? Or should I trust the word of a "eNglISh GenTlemAn", a figure that, like unicorn, never existed, contrary to the English pirate which exist today altough in a different form?
The Parliament represent the population. Referendum can be used by conmen, as brexit show. The 1776 was also approved by the USA congress.
Yes I did read it, you read English's one? Oh wait, you don't have one! So democratic....And it shows how problematic it is when events such a brexit happen
Indeed it's a matter of legal interpretation and I'm sure legally the act of union of England and Scotland should be void, as it lacks the fundamental democratic requirements EU has. Brexit and its lies was only the final nail on the credibility of Nazi ussk and the issue of the border will be the iceberg that finally sink the Titanic
By contrast EU is the epitome of democracy, as Lisbon Treaty shows. It's the peak of centuries of European democracy.
Your self importance and God's complex ran amock and you wrote a series of incredible bs on Europeans, while I argue my points with facts. I can see why an hypocrite anglo would say I hate English, but it's not hate, hate it's for important things and people. It's disgust
Irish are rich because contrary to their northern cousins, the Welsh, the Scots, they don't get stomped by English jackboots anymore, they don't have their resources stolen and their money pooled in London stock exchange where other dirty money are laundered. That's why Scots are so poor. their resources are used by English nazi to enrich themselves, Nazi who also indebted Scotland and make them responsible for that .
Hitler took inspiration from English crime syndicate's treatment of the poor nations unfortunate enough to be under their rule and, in particular, from concentration camps in South Africa and their treatment of Indians.
You can spew all the lies you want, but what made America great are the migrants, who shaped the political structure and even the laws of the country, who would have been nothing but thirteen poor states if left to English.
The EU central bank is a real central bank, able to stamp money and the bank for all the states, contrary to the English bank for uk, which serves England and England only.
Scotland, Wales and Northern Irish, whom you English and don't consider as equal, definitely feel mistreated in you so called "union" and would rather come to EU than stay with English, so why would Australia, NZ, Canada go back under English iron fist? I know you like to think the Commonwealth is your crime syndicate but fact is that bloody, dark period of time is over and that's nothing more than a trade agreement, and like Canzuk another delusion of greatness you have, along with the colonial mess you had (which was never great or important as you love to claim). Needless to say, both are younger then the EU. Needless to say, EU is an union where states members feels and help each other , since it's a real DEMOCRATIC union among PEERS, a word English parasites don't know the meaning of, CREATED by its members with an ELECTED head of state, with 21 states who joined it WILLINGLY. I know, I'm throwing at you lot of word and concepts s you English find scary. Oh and before you ask proof, as I already said in the beginning, you should provide proof about what you say on the Three Seas initiative (plus the proof Ireland was forced to approve Lisbon treaty) because, again, I'm not trusting the word of a non existing creature like the "eNglISh GenTleMAn" more than I trust the word of Santa or a fairy. And I mean proof: saying a lie over and over won't make it Reality despite what you believe. We continentals don't like to kid ourselves to not see uncomfortable Truths like you inselaffen, multiple times saved by us
One last thing
-England was the nation who started and profited the more from slavery
-England hid and was saved by Europeans from Napoleon, Wilhelm and Hitler( worth to mention the few time it fought it was saved by someone else, like the Prussians, despite the enemy being weakened)
-England left the Eu because it could not rule it and impose its dictatorship like it did over Scotland, Wales and Ireland, dictatorship which is coming to an end because, like History teach us, bill is always due for bad guys and there has been in History no guy worse and more evil than the English and their Nazi ussk crime syndicate.
EU will go on, making History. Nazi ussk will soon be history and England relegated at its place, where it belongs, to the footnotes of History books
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@Bessie Hillum Suspicious? It's a given: Irish voted no because they didn't like what they read, Eu changed it and then they voted yes. Pretty democratic, contrary to Scotland forced, weapon in hand to be under English jackboot. and no, a call to arms is NOT a referendum, otherwise the unrest and rebellions in Scotland should have counted as a "no" to the Union.
Seriously, sometimes it seem you have difficulties to understand your own language. You know, someone may argue the fact your constitution isn't written is what make you a non full democracy. but I guess that way it's easier to coerce nations into your union, exploit the subjects to your own gain etc.... etc...
Yes kiddo, I deem most of Europeans systems more democratic than yours. Especially the European Union one. At lest we vote ALL of our Parliament: no seat given by divine right. At least there isn't a Council nominated by an unelected Head of State. This is the difference between EU and Nazi ussk: the first is born out of peace and cooperation, the second out of theft, slavery, coercion bribery and, in the end, all the evil that humanity could show. You cannot afford to criticize Eu until you have righted those wrong. Then and only then you may, respectfully, talk about EU and that implies Nazi ussk is no more which I'm sure is bound to happen sooner than later, thanks to Scots and Northern Irish
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@Bessie Hillum Again, Ireland is rich thanks to the fact Europe doesn't steal its resources and create famines. The money they make is because of good investment in technology, the position between EU and America and the fact they are in the EU. Nothing to do with London laundering exchange. And no, dirty money are still dirty money even if you "launder them" but I see why you might not be too happy to lose that source of financial revenue especially now that you shoot on your own foot by leaving EU, which had no reason to water down its own rule and responsible finance to please you anglos.
Again, you were the inspiration for that and went to war only because you fear to lose your colonies, which you did anyway. fancy that.
Oh and how do you tell differentiate the two apart pray tell? Because many of those ehnicities who helped making America great were deemed as undesirable time to time.
Seem like you feel prey to misconception typical of your Nazi ( I should remind you half of Europe fought communism, which is not socialism , the other half was FORCED under it): the ECB is the EUROPEAN CENTRAL BANK, it stamp the currency, Euro and it's in charge of all the European area, directly or, for those state with their own currency( let's see for how long) still, indirectly. And it works and has representation from everywhere in Europe. Same cannot be said for the bank of ENGLAND, which, contrary to ECB, isn't the only one who can stamp currency! LMAO
EU is an Union for everyone, where everyone gain something, has his three main contributor still there, only the FOURTH left, whereas Nazi ussk works only for England, who got riched by exploiting resources and taxation from other countries, Nazi ussk is about to lose its second contributor, Scotland, with its resources, like oil. Algeria was a colony but I guess Scotland is comparable to Algeria, as it's the 2nd colony of England after Wales, which might also want to leave. Have you noticed though how nobody is talking to leave EU after England left?
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@Bessie Hillum Three seas initiative is just a regional project whose aim is to ease the cooperation between close countries, each region has one but none of those countries aim to replace Europe, as Czech made clear.
Australia made it clear Canzuk isn't in the least interesting and Canada laughed it off this attempt of the English oligarchs to still put their dirty hands over their countries. Nobody would get in bed with a soon to be corpse like Nazi ussk, which is slowing sinking like Titanic without EU's money and market and USA 's help. Why would they want to be the capital in London, to see their finances corrupted and laundered money and God knows what else run in their country? No, they''d rather stick to the to superpower closer tom their values, Europe and USA.
It's funny you hate Eu so much but many of the rights you boast so much come from the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, which is French and one of the very basic principles of EU. But boy, am i glad Commonwealth nations chose to adhere closely to our principles, i hope they really do and it's not a facade like in Nazi ussk. too bad Commonwealth is nothing more than a trade agreement but I understand no one would have England calling the shots after all they did. no wonder even Maghreb countries feel closer to France than some Asians and Africans countries do to England. My my
Even Europeans country could, despite their History, form a real union, something impossible between ex colonies and England. Especially now as they grow they are cutting their ties, which means England won't see any cheap labor any time soon, since EU numbers visas and workers going to uk are plummeting. Guess the world will get to ditch England propaganda and remember Nazi ussk for the evil it is, not to mention its pathetic role as the "no show" in war. Europeans already remember during WW1, WW2 and Napoleonic wars
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@Bessie Hillum Nazi ussk wasn't the first to abolish slavery, but your country poor, fascist propagandist education failed to mention you. Don't believe me? Open a book a REAL book and see for yourself, kiddo! I take the occasion to remind you that Nazi ussk crime syndicate was the one who most profited from slavery.
Without Russian and the Europeans and their armies trow at Napoleon he would have squashed England. It was Russia, Austria, Prussia, Sweden, Spain and Portugal and half of other European states who fought its armies and get England a break. Otherwise English couldn't have ever beaten French army nor could have they stopped from forming a navy. This is the cold hard Truth little boy. uk was almost useless in WW2: yes, Enigma helped in the fight against the Axis navies, yes the radar was useful but uk didn't almost fought it. The Russians and Americans did all the work, especially if we're talking about nukes, which saw the help from Germans, Italians and other nationalities too, but AMERICAN CAPITAL
Europe has to deal for 43 years with the English brats and oligarchs, always whining, always complaining, until England shot itself in the foot: Europeans sure are glad such a crooked nation and its corrupt evil syndicate, Nazi ussk (oligarchs are not elected and they are in the Parliament!), don't pollute our air anymore
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@Bessie Hillum Europe did change a lot, enough for the Irish to vote yes, without the coercion Scots needed for the Act of Union and they probably regret not fighting more.
But being an English and, therefore, an hypocrite, you find issue in the plenty democratic process in which Ireland say yes to Lisbon Treaty but not in how Scotland were duped, lied to and forced to remain in an Union they didn't even want. Contrary to EU with England Scots didn't have the luxury of a referendum nor did they were allowed to leave, but they tried, they revolted a lot. But of course, being an hypocrite you cannot say that.
Full democracy, what a laugh. In Europe people knew democracy when in England tribes were subject to warlords chief.
"“Divine right” is justified in self defence and speech, not voting, that is a man made concept" go tell that to the oligarchs in your Parliament, the House of Lords, who make law and whom you cannot elected. Nazi ussk was always a crime syndicate where unelected people decided for everyone. French went democratic when you didn't know the meaning, not that you do know of the word. Elizabeth the II is not elected, it's the head of state only because her father was, full stop.
Nazi ussk is not only undemocratic, but has 1st class citizen, the English and the rest which is considered 2nd class, a bank that work only for England and this time a crisis may very well spell the end of the crime syndicate and only English will be missing it
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@Bessie Hillum It seem you were able to look up the answers to Canzuk but you still mixed them up with propaganda,
No one except England has interest in Canzuk, majority of Australians, Canadians and New Zealanders don't care and are not interested in it, even less the Commonwealth nations, which has no trade areas such EU. No one really care for a puny kingdom with God's complex, especially not one who is about to sink, as soon as European money, German, Spanish, Italians, French etc,.. stop sustaining English oligarchy. Maybe the Welsh will keep staying with you English, they seem tamed, but I wouldn't bet on it
You clearly understand little of Europeans dynamics, but when did you English ever understood them after all? Joined military exercises and meeting between close countries in Eu always happened but Polish, Czech etc... made it clear they wouldn't replace EU, which is going to be the second, if not the first, power in the world.
What could Puny England do besides go back being the sick man? Trade already took a blow and the city of London now is not among the most important financial cities in Europe either, less much N1 (New York got the position), since it lost its most important market
"If you are referring to the Declaration of Human Rights, at the United Nations, then perhaps you would care to investigate which country wrote the majority of the text" already told you: France.
The scramble for Africa now it's economic and who is among the superpowers nowadays? Exactly, Europe, USA, China, India. Not England and its collapsing Nazi ussk syndicate. Not even Australia and Canada, who are in the USA or in the Eu zone of influence. England will be at best a pet to those powers. Their car industry is already German! LOL
i wouldn't concern about EUrope, which is demographically and economically looking at the future, while Puny England is still frightened to anything not white anglosaxon.
As I said, Europe fought Hitler while Nazi ussk ran away and rescued it like it did in the Napoleonic wars. Seem that running instead of fighting it's an English habits
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@Bessie Hillum Nazi ussk and Britain are two vastly different things: the first it's an unholy, demonic evil crime syndicate which seek power and destruction will never change, the second is an island who has changed and will change, especially politically, a lot.
Again, where is the proof Europe forced Ireland to say yes?
Scotland had ONE vote, after 300 years and voted to stay only to stay in Europe, after a campaign of lies.
Show me how Eu is not democratic. it allowed Ireland to say no, it let country choose if entering or not... it is a full democracy, democracy after all is born on the continent.
Once again, you make a fool of yourself yourself showing your ignorance to how EU work, by saying EU commission can propose Laws: it cannot, it's just the executive branch, whereas the House of Lords, like the Privy Council, can propose legislation and are not elected.
Queen Elizabeth has an huge power and the little prestige it had got washed away with recent scandals. Spanish King, Belgium's etc...and yes, Macron too like Biden hold more prestige now!
England is the one who dominate and control Nazi ussk, while Germany, France or Italy, albeit being the three top countries, don't dominate Europe, where everyone is REALLY equal (again, look at the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen).
England is pathetic, and your God's complex cannot hide this Truth or disguise it for something else, like jealousy (AHAHAHAHA who would be jealous of England? For what? LOL) or hate (which is, again for important people or things, for England there is only disgust)
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@Bessie Hillum Canzuk is a delusion of greatness English have and, contrary to EU, it does not exist. It seem English do need EU money and market though, too bad you will have none of it now.
It's good being part of the Europeans, the good guys in History and always leaving a mark, while evil crime syndicate like Nazi ussk become footnotes in History.
Eu export to uk the 2% of the total trade, uk export the 46% of total trade. So even if Nazi ussk were to close its nation to Europe, Europeans will manage, especially now that the annoying, self important English brats are out and cannot whine and block Europe to achieve its true potential.
If you think Australia, Canada and NZ are going to accept English jackboots on their soil you are dreaming. Not happening.
Once more, London is behind Paris, Frankfurt and Milan and its financial sector is in shambles after losing EU market, did you think I wouldn't write that again? The bank of England, which pretend to be a central bank, will have to work a lot to ensure English their lifestyle, which means Welsh, Scots and Northern Irish will be robbed blindly.
Ahahahahaha no, it was French, as written in every History book, all of them (because English's are propaganda pamphlet, not books). "However, I’ll meet you half way, in that the majority of the British populace (think Brexit) don’t really care much for it, and it’s only a matter of time before it is rescinded" I'm not surprised, English never cared about humans right but I think the other half of uk, Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish, might disagree.
As I said the scramble for Africa, financial ed economical, will favor the superpower such USA, China, India, EU. ,Maybe Puny England will get the scraps....
After all uk is the sick man again and worse growing in European Continent. yes, worse than Greece!
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@Bessie Hillum No no, I'm not English, MY imagination has limit, you know. Sadly, it's the Truth.
Ireland made a willing choice,like France Scotland was forced to join with the threat of the army and convinced to stay with lies after 300 years of revolts quelled in blood. And Scotland, like Ireland, would rather join an Union of peers than staying under English jackboots, in fact Ireland became rich by being in EU
Again, for the umpteenth time, the bodies in uk able to pass laws are not elected( half of the Parliament and the Privy council), unlike in EU , where the the Council and the Parliament, all elected, can pass laws and the Commission work as executive. So Nazi ussk crime syndicate is not too far from North Korea, Pinochet Chile or other dictatorships. Unlike EU, which Ireland join willingly like many others and wich Scotland's want to join, Nazi ussk crime syndicate forced Scotland, Wales and North Ireland (previously all of Ireland) under its thumb, stealing resourcing and provoking famines all to benefit England and English's power. Such thing would't fly in the democratic Europe, because we are all peers and work for peace, democracy and cooperation.
AAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHA the Royal family has only the Queen with little prestige! Charles is laughed at, the princes made a fool of themselves...to not talk about Andrea! The Europeans leaders and head of states such a Macron, Draghi, Ursula, the late David Sassoli are all well respected. uk government on other hand, is not, lead as it is by crooked Tories and their leader Bojo the clown!
You think that because English have no concept of unions of Equals. Europeans do
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@Bessie Hillum Eu isn't closing off, Nazi ussk is. Not that it matters, Nazi ussk finances and economy are already in shambles
I told you Nazi ussk and Britain are two different things: one is a crime syndicate, the other an island, the first will disappear soon, the second will not so soon.
The only reason I'm speaking English is because you don't talk anything else. If we really want to talk about link between power and language, we'd have to talk in Chinese, Spanish or French. England nowadays is important only as "American English"
No, uk trade 46% of its goods with EU and that's only for goods, services are just as much if not more, too bad EU cut them off. too bad for uk that's it! Yes sure, Nazi ussk will diminish that quota and trade with others, but I'll take time and in the meantime economy will crash. Mogg said it: 50 years you'll have to wait. London is just an increasingly non important capital of money laundering, FULL STOP.
I love the collaboration between countries in EU, we share an Union after all, we're going to have a military cooperation like never before, the economics it's already there, Euro is on par with dollar as trusted currency in internationals translations (while pound plummet) and Scotland will be welcomed when they leave Nazi ussk!
Human Rights legislation is a french product. I'll never stop reminding you that. of course, you English inherently refuse the concept, Nazi ideology etc...but we Europeans love the concept of freedom.
Again, I'll have to teach you that the Commission, does not, I repeat DOES NOT propose legislation, the ELECTED, I repeat, ELECTED Council and Parliament do, contrary to uk, where the unelected, I repeat, UNELCTED, Chamber of Lords and Privy Council propose laws. Europe is a democracy, Nazi ussk (not Britain, two different things) is not.
Again France and Ireland said NO and then EU changed the Treaty as they liked and they voted yes. Very different from Scotland,forced into the Union with arms and deceive to stay in a rigged referendum full of lies and false promises after 300 years of revolts and exploitation by the English. You are trying to do the same with me, thinking I will be bullied into submission, but, as England found out during talks, Europeans are too though and won't be bully by a Puny kingdom with God's complex. that's why Scotland will leave English crime syndicate and join our beautiful, magnificent union. Spain already said there aren't problem. After all, Nazi ussk isn't in Europe anymore! LMAO
I play chess while you checkers, but the problem is, you are also a pigeon, so I'm effectively truing to play chess with a pigeon.
the Queen is the only figure of prestige and once she's dead I think the Commonwealth will choose another or even disband completely. the only mistery of Charles is why he married a horse? Indeed there is no equal, and every nation thank God for that (that explain the children though: the sons of an horse and an ass....).
England is pathetic, nobody is jealous, we laugh at you if we ever we think of you
I know in your nazi circles you drink cool aid and eat propaganda and live in your delusions, but it's about time someone told you the Truth
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@Bessie Hillum You mean why would you not keep making a fool of yourself by blabbing nonsense? LOL, I already told you, nobody would envy you, the least we could feel towards you, when it's not indifference, it's pity, and disgust. You English are pretty scare by EU and humiliated by how it didn't appease your demand.
Did you not realize everyone laughs at you people? You're having debacles like Suez basically each day! Don't you English have any shame? Come on, let's agree to disagree,you stick with your mind narrowed, self important English view, while I stick with the more humble open minded European view.
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@Bessie Hillum Here's the data: IFM trim uk growth for 2022 and 2023. uk's growth is expected to be the smallest among G7 with the exception of Japan
Most British households will face big increases in their domestic energy bills in April when regulated tariffs are due to rise by around 50%. Anti-poverty campaigners have urged the government to expand the limited assistance given to poor households towards their energy bills - something that would cost between 2.5 billion and 7.3 billion pounds.
American's English is very different from England's: many words, meaning etc...change thanks to immigrants influx and became richer than its culturally poor English counterpart, which is spoken only in Puny England and on country fairs about Puny England, an utterly irrelevant country. French, on other hand, it's, like Spanish and American English, language of culture, diplomacy and international politics.
LOL, your numbers about Eu are from 2017. Nazi ussk still export about 45% of its export to EU, while Europe only export 2% and that number is declining as Europe finds more reliable partners, not on the brink of economic collapse.
Euro is one of the most safe currency thanks to the European Central Bank, like pound, already mostly ignored next to US dollar and Euro, became utterly irrelevant after brexit, especially since there is no central bank in uk, the only one being the English one that acts only for the benefit of the English. It's funny to think a currency of a failing crime syndicate can be relevant when it has never been in History.
Far from being something an Anglo could write, the UN Declaration of human right come from the Code Napolèon and the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, and was written, besides Cassin, by
Charles Malik, P.C. Chang and with the contribution of various people around the world (with the exception of England, of course) and adopted in 1948 in PARIS.
England was not the first sign the ECHR, much like it wasn't the first to abolish humans traffic. And one of the Convention language is FRENCH.
I wonder why and how a roakie like you didn't get flushed instead of raised. Go to the uk Parliament website,"Parliamentary business", "House of Lords", " Work of the House of Lords" and in the end "What the Lords does". You will find an heading "Making laws" where this is written:
"Members spend more than half their time in the House considering bills (draft laws). During several stages, members examine each bill, line-by-line, before it becomes an Act of Parliament (actual law). Many of these bills affect our everyday lives, covering areas such as welfare, health and education". So no more bullshit from you, scrumboy.
French and Irish rejected it asking for a change that was made, then they say yes
Scotland was FORCED manu militari into the Union, after so much bribed and England quelled in blood for 300 years until it had to accept a referendum which English proceeded to rig, making lies and false promises, like the one about Nazi ussk never leaving EU (while nobody said once in a generation). This make Nazi ussk crime syndicate an unholy dictatorship. Do your feeble, nazi, low IQ brain get this or should I explain it again?
Nazi ussk sucked European blood for 43 years and intended to keep going despite leaving, too bad for the English Mr Barnier said no, to Mogg the vampire, Frost the Abominable man and all of Bojo the Clown's government chagrin.
There is no problem, Spain said already: Catalonia cannot leave without leaving EU, but Nazi ussk is not in EU anymore.
Yeah, you better ignore as you English always do with embarrassing things and boy it's the royal family embarassing !
Actually it's the English who are having Visas problems. Europeans would rather find job in Europe than in Puny England
Now, let's agree to disagree and stick each of one with our view: you with your Nazi, narrow minded English view and me with the more civilized, broad European view.
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@Bessie Hillum Too bad Standard Chartered predicts that uk will be out of the top ten by 2030 and that Spain and Portugal are going to surpass it soon.
It's April and your economy is still in shambles and shrinking, while EU's is booming. As predicted.
All Americans are real Americans. That's what you fail to understand. In fact, English may be the least American of all. American culture has a power English's can only wish to achieve. It's the American Dream who attract people, American music and general culture that has wooed them and Americans university system is the best.
That's why people, even French, learn English. It comes with American cultures and values which are widespread. But people don't stop there. Many people in Europe and around the world study other language, like Spanish, French, German. This is because Europe is as well attractive as a culture and its school system is as well top notch, from the kindergarten to the top.
English and England? Marginal at best, people know of something, the Queen, Buckingham palace etc...but they don't lose much time with you.
You can whine and delude yourself as much as you want but it doesn't change the fact England is a puny and pathetic kingdom incapable to produce anything it can only steal from other, except now it can only steal from the rest of Britain.
Get a clue: in North Ireland and Scotland Sinn Féin and SNP are going to get a majority soon and leave Nazi ussk.
ECB has the ability to print money, as a matter of fact it's done that for a while. So you are wrong: EU has a bank. Contrary to Nazi ussk, whose bank is the English central bank, which work exclusively to redirect richness from the rest to uk to England, that's the harsh Truth. But the rest of uk had had it enough of English jackboot.
As I told you before, the UN Declaration of human right come from the Code Napolèon and the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, both French, French, not English, who worked on the UN declaration as well.
LMAO, Puny England didn't split the atom like it didn't end slavery first, despite being the one who profited the most from it, lots of great nations, among which France, preceded you (and let's not talk about how you compensated the slave owners instead of the slave): And even if you did, that work couldn't have been possible without Einstein(German), Marie Curie(Polish),Henri Becquerel(French), Fermi (Italian) etc...etc..
That's what EUrope did.
So you finally understood the Commission DOESN'T Make laws, the PARLIAMENT and the COUNCIL, both elected, do. Good
Scotland was barred, with an act akin to piracy,nothing new to the English, from trading with English colonies and England itself and then forced into the union with England, an unequal union. And Scots would have voted out if "Better Together" didn't promised uk would have never left Europe. Once again, cold harsh Truth.Nazi ussk was the FOURTH; at best, contributor, with lots of rebates and privileges, it costed EU way more than it was worth it; you always did what you wanted, passed laws for then complain, block EU integration. All of this after Nazi ussk BEGGED, as the sick man, to join, since the "family" were increasingly growing colder now that it didn't have English jackboots over their heads.
A MINORITY of Catalonians held a illegal referendum, which Spain blocked. Of course, the conquered people under English's heel don't have the luxury to even have one, a not rigged one, because Northern Irish, Welsh and Scots want to be free from English Nazi. And yes, looking at your History, you are protonazi. You didn't even bother to fight "the" Nazi, you mostly run away while Europeans fought, much like you did against Kaiser Wilhelm and Napoleon and you have been saved twice by Europeans and once by America, something that hurts you right in your God's complex.
EU is going to make History, Nazi ussk crime syndicate will be History soon, once Sinn Fein and SNP win and hold a referendum to leave, one of those regimes and distortions of History that disappear with Human's progress
Now, let's agree to disagree and stick each of one with our view: you with your Nazi, shallow, narrow minded English view and me with the more civilized, broad European view.
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@Bessie Hillum Again, IFM trim uk growth for 2022 and 2023. uk's growth is expected to be the smallest among G7 with the exception of Japan. Most British households will face big increases in their domestic energy bills in April when regulated tariffs are due to rise by around 50%. Anti-poverty campaigners have urged the government to expand the limited assistance given to poor households towards their energy bills - something that would cost between 2.5 billion and 7.3 billion pounds.
Far from doing better than the EU, Nazi ussk will economically shrink and doing worse even than single EU states' economies. I refer you to my previous posts where it's shown uk is being overtaken.
Again, you can delude yourself as much as you want, but a lie doesn't become Truth no matter how many times you say it ( despite what your idol Goebbels say) America was made great by immigrants.
America values are a mixture from all those immigrants cultures, some traditions born in the place and the will to make a new nation together. All Americans are real Americans. That's what you fail to understand. In fact, English may be the least American of all. American culture has a power English's can only wish to achieve. It's the American Dream who attract people, American music and general culture that has wooed them and Americans university system is the best.
That's why people, even French, learn English. It comes with American cultures and values which are widespread. But people don't stop there. Many people in Europe and around the world study other language, like Spanish, French, German. This is because Europe is as well attractive as a culture and its school system is as well top notch, from the kindergarten to the top.
English and England? Marginal at best.
In fact, German, French, Spain and Italian university are already beating English's at their own game, not surprising giving that Manhattan project saw mostly Europeans to hep the American scientists(lots of whom had European origin), to not talk how EU space program totally overshadow whatever pathetic excuses for program England has.
You should STUDY History to understand it:had not been for migrants, America would still be Thirteen poor states, a failure much like Nazi ussk and England were and are for most of History
Scotland wants a referendum, a not rigged one, and will have as well as NI. The Malvinas will go back to their rightful owners, Argentina, like Greek's ancient marble. Scotland, Wales and NI want to be in EU, which has democratic referendum and respect its members rather than in Nazi ussk.
You keep talking about the Bank of England as the bank of all uk. It's not. Let me unveil the harsh Reality for you: the Bank of England effectively manage finances to benefit England and only England, redirecting all to London, drying effectively other nations. ECB, compared to that, is a real central bank, that issue moneys and protect EU but doesn't dry Eu states clean and it's doing a better job at managing inflation.
UN’s Declaration of Human Rights is still important and relevant today( not that Nazi ussk cares since it might interferes in the only export it has today, migrants) and not something an Anglo could write: it comes right come from the Code Napolèon and the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, and was written, besides Cassin, by
Charles Malik, P.C. Chang and with the contribution of various people around the world (with the exception of England, of course) and adopted in 1948 in PARIS and written IN FRENCH.
England was not the first sign the ECHR, much like it wasn't the first to abolish humans traffic, something it immensely profited from and when it chose to abolish it it wasn't for humanitarian reasons, as the disgusting compensations to the slavers show. But your propaganda doesn't care, just like it doesn't care the most important part of the work on nuclear fission was made by Europeans. Seriously, try reading the lives and discoveries of Curie, Einstein, Becquerel,Fermi etc...and see how ignorant you are. I will not stop remind you that nor making you see the Reality, despite your pathetic attemps to copy me( understandable though, copying from your betters)
Go to the uk Parliament website,"Parliamentary business", "House of Lords", " Work of the House of Lords" and in the end "What the Lords does". You will find an heading "Making laws" where this is written:
"Members spend more than half their time in the House considering bills (draft laws). During several stages, members examine each bill, line-by-line, before it becomes an Act of Parliament (actual law). Many of these bills affect our everyday lives, covering areas such as welfare, health and education".
England did an illegal act, an act of piracy which would have been an act of war had it been used against it. All to ruin Scotland and force them to join, not before some bribe to Scottish Mps. Scots wanted to leave exactly because they were tired of English jackboots but you English did what you do best and rigged the referendum. By the way, nowhere in the answer it was written "once in a lifetime choice". This is the Truth.
Nazi ussk was the FOURTH, at best, contributor, with huge privileges and you still whined it wasn't enough. You wanted to do your part and have the same right as the other Europeans, Europe said no. Simply as that. Now uk has no market for services and way less possibilities to export to EU, which has now one less dead weight and enjoy its unity, while Nazi ussk Titanic sink, as polls in NI and Scotland show the rise of both Sinn Fein and SNP.
Nazi ussk RUN AWAY, like it did against Wilhelm the Second and Napoleon (and in many other wars) while Europeans fought and won, in the first two case alone, in WW2 with the huge help from America and USSR. Europe saved uk three times. Harsh cold Truth. The Reality that hurts your God's complex so much.
Nazi ussk, lie The Commonwealth, a trade organization with no other string attached and whose head it's nothing more than a figure head, are things of the past
Europe saw two world wars and 3500 years of great civilization but also great pain. Now that it's united yet greater things await. Europe will be yet again the torch that will lights up the world and Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish will be a part of this, while the Anglo inselaffen will live in the darkness or ride on our coattails like you 've been doing since 3500 years.
Now, let's agree to disagree and stick each of one with our view: you with your Nazi, shallow, narrow minded English view and me with the more civilized, broad European view.
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@Bessie Hillum Yet forecasts have been right up to now about Nazi ussk: it's a fact, it needs EU's market and money to be kept afloat.
EU is finding new providers, uk is about to lose its only oil field, as soon as Scotland leave. Your numbers aren't worth anything
For someone pretending to make an attempt of an argument you are doing a good troll impression. But as I said, it's ok to copy your betters....
You don't even know what communism is, you pillock. EU emigrations to Nazi ussk has reduced, contrary to those towards EU FROM Nazi ussk. How many took an EU citizenship to run from Nazi ussk crime syndicate?
America is based on laws made by immigrants and molded throughout the time. That's why they were successful, contrary to others people who suffered more under English's rule, that left nothing but despair. Zimbabwe among which. Try STUDYING, kiddo.
Congrats I guess... you know what was discovered in GERMAN universities? X ray. In France? radio. And so on. Didn't told you already: Europeans, and that include Americans of Europeans origins as well Scots,Welsh and Irish from European perspective, have the greatest numbers of Nobel Prize winners? If not, now you know.
I'll show my data when you show yours. And kindergarten is the pre-school, for your information
The Manhattan Projects was basically a creature of Oppenheimer, Fermi, Einstein and all others Europeans or Americans of European origin, uk contributed little, as little it did contribute to the war (running away everywhere)
"ESA and the UK are separate entities, and the space agency makes much use of non-EU talent." congrats, captain obvious. And now what, you'll tell me British space Agency is different from EU? Yes, EU space agency use some foreigners who "would be incapable of performing at the same level in their home country nor any other space agency". facts stay, ESA is way more advanced than British Space agency as matter of money (6,49 billions against 469 millions) as much as technology. ESA is actually working on European human spaceflight beside working on a numbers of projects, studying climate, celestial bodies etc...while Nazi ussk space agency is still limited to study climate and nothing else!
EU is also way more advanced in mini nuclear reactor, with France spending from 1 to 4 billions in tech innovation while uk is not spending more than half billion. Facts
Malvinas are Argentinians, invaded by Nazi ussk. this is the uncomfortable Truth. Like it's the uncomfortable Truth Scotland voted yes to stay in EU, in the only referendum 300 years after English put their jackboots on Scottish's soil. Of course Scots prefer the EU: the saw a REAL DEMOCRATIC UNION at work and want to join. Better to have a voice in the EU than none in Nazi ussk. And Eu would accept it, Scotland has actually resources and Catalonians couldn't leave without leaving EU. It would be different if Nazi ussk was still in the Eu but...it's not. Again, you play checkers while I play chess, too bad you're a pigeon so I'm actually playing chess with a pigeon.
Again, ECB didn't bend anything and has no intention to stop buying until it's not needed anymore. Because ECB and EU cares about EU, all of it, contrary of Bank of England. Prick
ECB is like the Federal Reserve, a bank of the Union, not one state. Harsh cold Truth (oh and uk inflation rose tot that of Germany, higher than many Eu's states and higher than Eu's)
Nazi ussk is scraping any bills and convention about human rights, not that that's surprising, it was always close to Uganda, China, Russia than the civilized world (EU, USA etc...). After all Puny England had not hand in the UN’s Declaration of Human Rights, a document still relevant today( inspired from the Code Napolèon and the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen) , written, besides Cassin, by
Charles Malik, P.C. Chang and adopted in 1948 in PARIS and written IN FRENCH. Nor where the English the first signatory UN’s UDHR, or the one who first to abolished slavery, despite being the one who started it and profited the most from it, something your low level school probably didn't teach you. Really kiddo, go open a History book, a REAL one and find out yourself. Find out about English crimes and misdeed.
England ran away while France fought. France and other Europeans. It was Norwegians who stopped Germany attempt to build a nuke. It was Czech resistance who killed Heydrich and Greeks and Balkans s resistance that smacked Germany down. To not talk about France and Belgians beating Germany down in WW1, while AH and Bulgaria were brought down by Italy, Greece, Montenegro, Romania. The same Europeans who beat Napoleon in Spain(Spaniards and Portuguese) and around Europe( Prussia, Austria , Italians and Germans states). All while uk was hiding. You're welcome!
Once again, you made a fool of yourself, showing your ignorance on how EU democracy works, saying EU commission can propose laws when it cannot, it's just an executive body, the laws are made by the ELECTED Parliament and the Council. Unlike Nazi ussk, where the UNELECTED chamber of Lords and the Privy Council can make and pass laws. At least we don't let a bunch of oligarchs decide for the citizens...oh right, those in Nazi ussk are not citizens, they are subject! This is the sad, for you, Reality
Again, the sad, for you, Truth is Puny England was the FOURTH, at best, contributor and had a lots of privileges, benefiting immensely from EU membership, being the leech it is, while now London lost its place to New York, Frankfurt, Paris and Milan and Nazi ussk fell to the 10th position of the position, but don't worry, it won't last, the collapse it's only at the beginning! Wales would have voted to stay in the EU had not been for the English and now they will probably leave the most vicious, crooked crime syndicate the world has ever saw to join a real union as will Scotland and NI (SNP and Sinn Fein are steadily gaining support).After all, Ireland only got better and better once Irish lift English jackboots from their soil and especially once it joined EU. The Commonwealth, a trade association who chose the Queen as mere figure head, will soon follow. Nazi ussk is going to be History, EU (which kept expanding since it was born in 1957 and on a VOLUNTARY base) will keep making History.
You are a sad fella, surely an English hillbilly (no one else could be that deluded or have such a God's complex) whose low IQ and low quality education doesn't allow to see Reality to what really is. I hate to break it to you like this, but I always thought the unpleasant Truth is better than comforting lies. But if you prefer the comforting lies, let's agree to disagree and stick with our respective view: you with your Nazi, shallow, narrow minded English view and me with the more civilized, broad European view
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@datadavis Mmmm.... you mean you were pussies scared Germany could invade you so you give in and supplied their demand of iron. Yeah great relation, nothing strange especially when you denied entry to jew. Except for the fact you suddenly become staunchly pro Allies, even trying to help them militarily.
Ahahahahahhahahah nope, that was an attempted annexation, thwarted, ironically, by Germans ( who annexed it themselves).
Lol, brother nation uh? Like Norway? Too bad both of them see it differently.
Lmao, you just sounds jealous because Italy is one of the most successful nation, rich in History as well, while nobody cares about Sweden.
It's thanks to us you live better and rich today, to the union we helped creating and the contribution we send to tiny, useless puny country like yours. You are welcome 😉
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@saintsone7877 But in a family you cannot decide for everyone alone. And EU is a family, an UNION of states, which tries to act together. The states that think they can have the cake and eat it too, like uk, will find soon enough that's not how it works. There are rights and duties for everyone, Germany and France included.
Well, it seems Hungary ENJOYED those time, since thy're doing everything to exit EU and becoming Russians puppet again. It shows people like them and like you, like dictatorships, communist dictatorships, more than democracies like EU
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@tamastoth9625 Look, it is really funny to see your attempt to convince others of your populism and propaganda, but the Truth is Hungary is no different from Nazi Germany. He tied judiciary power to executive's, which means his, he arrested journalists whose criticize him or tell the truth about Coronavirus, beat foreign journalist at the border....
On the other hand, EU promote equality, shared power, tolerance. I know you don't like it and claim EU is like USSR, but this is what EUROPEANS democracy values are and they won't change because Hungary wants fascism!
The majority of Hungary PROPAGANDA is anti EU and pro Orban, so all you know about EU is the caudillo's opinion.
I could go on, but maybe it's time for you to think where Hungary REALLY wants to be: in EU, with all EU values, or be a FASCIST but OUT
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@LucioFercho Ahahahahahaha here it is again the spigotto, refusing to say where it's from like the coward it is.
Ahahahah that article don't exist, this does
"Art. 7. L'Austria-Ungheria e l'Italia, non mirando che al mantenimento, in quanto possibile, dello status quo territoriale in Oriente, si impegnano a usare la loro influenza per prevenire qualunque modificazione territoriale che potesse portare danno all'una o all'altra delle Potenze firmatarie del presente Trattato. Esse si comunicheranno a tale scopo tutte le informazioni suscettibili di illuminarle mutuamente sulle loro proprie disposizioni come su quelle di altre Potenze. In ogni modo, nel caso che, in forza di avvenimenti, il mantenimento dello statu quo nelle regioni dei Balcani o delle coste ed isole ottomane nell'Adriatico e nel Mar Egeo divenisse impossibile e che, sia in conseguenza dell'azione di una terza Potenza, sia altrimenti, l'Austria-Ungheria o l'Italia si vedessero nella necessità di modificarlo con un'occupazione temporanea o permanente da parte loro, quest'occupazione non avrà luogo che dopo un preventivo accordo fra le due Potenze, fondato sul principio di un compenso reciproco per qualunque vantaggio territoriale o d'altra natura che ciascuna di esse ottenesse in più dello statu quo attuale, e che dia soddisfazione agli interessi e alle pretese ben fondati delle Parti."
In English:
"However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Of course the krauts, being the unreliable, treacherous people they always were, did not comply. Austria even signed a treaty with Russia in 1904!
But a spigotto will certainly not be able to understand it, not having any History or a achievement on your own 😂🤣
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@LucioFercho LMAO! Again spigotto, the article between Austria and Russia break Triple Alliance
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
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@LucioFercho Ahahahahahaha again bean eater, as I said you should have any difficulties to point them out. Why don't you? Maybe because they are as biased as you 🤣
Only a krait and a spigotto can try to justify AH with Serbia alleged terrorism...😂
"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, which he described as ‘a constant breeding ground for those aspirations and
machinations that aim at the separation of the South Slav areas [of the Empire]’.
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
117 He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Understood, grease?
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@LucioFercho Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
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Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
(Second time you forced me to do this)
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@LucioFercho Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( Sixth time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
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@LucioFercho Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( Seventh time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
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@LucioFercho Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( Eigth time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( NINTH time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( TWELFTH time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( THIRTEENTH TIME!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( FOURTEENTH TTIME!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( FIFTEENTH time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( SIXTEENTH time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( SEVENTHEETH time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( EIGHTEENTH time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( NINETEENTH time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality:
""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary."
Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties."
Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂
( TWENTIETH time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️)
And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief
preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and
annexation of Serbia, (...)
During 1908–9,
when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against
Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being
done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for
this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its
dregs.’
He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During
the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no
fewer than twenty-five times."
Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality: ""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary." Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties." Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂 ( TWENTY-TWO time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️) And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and annexation of Serbia, (...) During 1908–9, when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its dregs.’ He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no fewer than twenty-five times." Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality: ""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary." Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties." Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂 ( TWENTY-THREE time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️) And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and annexation of Serbia, (...) During 1908–9, when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its dregs.’ He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no fewer than twenty-five times." Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality: ""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary." Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties." Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂 ( TWENTY-FOUR time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️) And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and annexation of Serbia, (...) During 1908–9, when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its dregs.’ He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no fewer than twenty-five times." Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality: ""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary." Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties." Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂 ( TWENTY-FIVE time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️) And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and annexation of Serbia, (...) During 1908–9, when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its dregs.’ He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no fewer than twenty-five times." Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@LucioFercho I though I told you to not force me to HUMILIATE you, I want to educate you, you are forcing me to utterly destroy you 😂🤣😉Ahahahahahaha it's funny to see a grease trying to ignoring History for his own convenience. Too bad Reality cannot be ignored and Kraut treachery is a reality: ""ARTICLE VII E. v. emperor of Austria, etc. and the Apostolic King of Hungary reserves the right to choose the timing and method for his troops to occupy Bosnia and Herzegovina. It was agreed that this measure, which is not an act of solidarity with the occupation of Bulgaria by Russian troops, nor in the interpretation of its government by its empire. and the king. Majesty, nor in its implementation, should not have a hostile character towards Russia. Likewise, the intervention of the Russian army in Turkey should neither in its interpretation by the Russian imperial government nor in its implementation be hostile towards Austria-Hungary." Not that Austria never respected it: " "However, if, in the course of events, the maintenance of the status quo in the regions of the Balkans or of the Ottoman coasts and islands in the Adriatic and in the Aegean Sea should become impossible, and if, whether in consequence of the action of a third Power or otherwise, Austria-Hungary or Italy should find themselves under the necessity of modifying it by a temporary or permanent occupation on their part, this occupation shall take place only after a previous agreement between the two Powers, based upon the principle of a reciprocal compensation for every advantage, territorial or other, which each of them might obtain beyond the present status quo, and giving satisfaction to the interests and well founded claims of the two Parties." Krauts are always a treacherous bunch. Not that a bean eater would understand it! 😂 ( TWENTY-SIX time!!!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️) And of course, AH treatment of Serbia:"There were many potential enemies on Conrad’s horizon, but Serbia became his chief preoccupation. In a memorandum composed at the end of 1907 he called for the invasion and annexation of Serbia, (...) During 1908–9, when the annexation crisis was at its height, he called repeatedly for preventive war against Belgrade. ‘It is a crime,’ he told Gina von Reininghaus in the spring of 1909, ‘that nothing is being done. War against Serbia could have saved the monarchy. In a few years we shall atone bitterly for this omission, and I shall be chosen to bear the entire responsibility and drain the chalice to its dregs.’ He called for war against Serbia again during the Balkan War crisis of 1912–13. During the twelve months between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914, he counselled a Serbian war no fewer than twenty-five times." Keep making a fool of yourself spigotto 😉
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@killer2434 No, I just like saying the Truth about things. You actually said the reverse, that everyone has an equal say despite the MEPs number differences.
Secondly, false, they did and when they said no EU had to change accordingly. While Scots referendum was simply rigged, there is plenty of evidences, the lies that made Scots votes sway towards remains are obvious now. Tell me one democracy that rigs its referendum to win. This things have brought the majority of Scots to vote SNP and be pro independence. Well done uk.
Well done for placing cronies in NI so to try to avoid the same fate of Scotland, not that will be of any use as NI WILL follow Scotland out, they know in EU they would be like their cousin, rich and free, while in uk their only fate is to be exploited by England
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@Account-nk6wb Dal Sole24Ore
Un «elemento fondamentale per i Paesi», ha sottolineato Padoan, è infatti di «essere credibili», sottolineando che «in linea di principio le riforme hanno tempi lunghi» e che «il problema è la questione dell'implementazione». Tornando sul capitolo investimenti, Padoana ha aggiunto che costituiscono «La via maestra per la crescita», soprattutto quelli privati, anche se un ruolo ce l'hanno anche quelli pubblici «nella loro funzione di catalizzatore e attivatore dell'attività privata». «Si devono creare condizioni di profittabilità», ha aggiunto, e un «elemento fondamentale sono le riforme strutturali che sbloccano gli investimenti».
Hai capito ora, cervello di gallina? E' inutile che cerchi di copiarmi, la tua pochezza viene fuori comunque
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