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Comments by "Karsten Schuhmann" (@karstenschuhmann8334) on "Barnier ‘disappointed and concerned’ by Brexit talks failure" video.
@whoaminot-gy8hq Nobody in the EU is begging for a deal, but we will always be there if the UK wants to negotiate, that is good customer service.
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@whoaminot-gy8hq It will mean much more than tariffs. The non tariff barriers are often much more difficult to handle. When I am ordering a specific part in Switzerland from a German company for let's say 5€, the non tarife barriers by far outway the tariffs. The delivery will become 25€ more expensive and it will take an additional month. Only 6% of German exports are going to the UK, but 45% of British exports go to the EU and an additional 40% is fostered by EU trade deals.
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@whoaminot-gy8hq Any country of the EU is exporting more to the rest of the EU than to the UK. Abolishing tariffs does not mean abolishing custom procedures. Any package will be stored at the custom office until it can be processed. The cost for storing and checking will be added to the delivery fee.
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@whoaminot-gy8hq The EU is significantly stronger than the UK, in any respects.
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Every country in the EU is exporting more to the rest of the EU than to the UK. So a trade deal with the UK that compromises the common market is a net negative.
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More likely that the UK falls apart.
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@whoaminot-gy8hq Well, it seems the UK is much closer to the collapse than the EU. Anyway, a trade deal needs to be beneficial to be signed. This means it needs to be beneficial (or at least not detrimental) for all member countries of the EU. Every country in the EU is exporting more to the rest of the EU than to the UK. So a trade deal with the UK that compromises the common market is a net negative.
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@whoaminot-gy8hq Well the EU has the common market and numerous trade deals and a disruption of these would be more expensive than what we would gain from a deal with the UK. For the EU no deal actually is better than a bad deal. What is your issue with this argument?
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@whoaminot-gy8hq Well, this is wrong and even more not related to what you claim to answer to.
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@whoaminot-gy8hq Well, membership of the common market grants EU countries free trade within the EU, furthermore it provides trade deals with several countries and does not prevent EU countries trading with the rest of the world. In any case, in 2021 the UK will have less access to the common market and less access to the rest of the world. We, however, were talking about the requirements for the UK to get free but limited access to the common market.
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@whoaminot-gy8hq Even for the car manufacturers the common market and the multitude of trade deals are more important than the trade deal with a single country.
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@dangermouse9348 "A company that wishes to sell goods inside the EU must make those goods to meet EU standards. I don't have any argument with that. Expecting every UK company to follow EU standards even when they are unecessary is however unacceptable. " So you want to introduce a lot of red tape at the border? This idea will end nearly all export to the EU because the customs process will make products to expensive. The customs could no longer simply assume the conformity of products produced in the UK. In this situation, a company would not only need to manufacture according to EU regulations but they would need to deliver paperwork and apply further inspections to prove this conformity. This is possible for China due to the lower wages but not for the UK.
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@dangermouse9348 Well, there is such a thing as equivalence. So certain classes of products legal in Canada are also legal in the EU and do not require to be checked. The UK however is claiming they would want tho change all legislation getting rid of red tape. Furthermore, they want to make a trade deal with the USA. All this makes any equivalence impossible as equivalence requires from both sides not to change the regulation.
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@dangermouse9348 Any country that is a member of the EU has higher standards than the EU. The standards of the EU are minimum standard! The issue is that the UK wants to change its standarts, and trade deals are about the future not the present.
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@dangermouse9348 1. At the moment we have minimal red tape, any form of Brexit will make it worse. 2. Presently the UK is aligned with the EU. However, your government stated once and once again that they want to change the standards. Normally this would mean that we would wait with the negotiation until the new state is reached. 3. This, however, is not possible as the UK needs a deal by the end of the year.
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