Comments by "Joao Costa" (@JoaoCosta-pn9im) on "Viktor Orbán defends Hungary amid Political Attacks in the EU Parliament" video.

What is wrong with Hungarian leaders? Always taking the wrong and defeated side? History is full of examples. Hungary was in the defeated side in the WWI. Afterwards willingly joined the Nazis in the war efforts and perpetration of the Holocaust. Then, as a satellite of the USSR, rebelled and saw the USSR tanks crashing the rebellion and killing Hungarians on the streets of Budapest. Eventually, Hungary was gracefully granted a place in the EU, for which it did not have to struggle. When we thought the Hungarian curse had ended, here comes a authoritarian fascist leaning government again attracted to the wrong side flirting with defeat. Instead of joining ranks with all the other countries in the EU, Hungary is getting hand in hand with the criminal authoritarian kleptocracy in Russia, abandoning and rubbishing democratic and legality values so dear to the European Union. No good will come out of that for the Hungarian people. Again Hungarians can expect another historical round of humiliations, defeatism and shame. Time to wake up Hungary! We are in the XXI Century.
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@zsuzso7 What is the difference between historical facts and clichés?
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@zsuzso7 I maintain everything I have said. Historical facts are not inventions or interpretation. The records are there. However, my interpretation, I admit, is that there is something strange and dark, perhaps sinister, in Hungary closeness to defeats and its embracing of wrong sides. Yes, we may admit the complexities of history. Perhaps the uprising against the Soviet Union was a justifiable thing to do, but the defeat was clearly inevitable. So, it looks like Hungarian story is made of bad choices either for the “intrinsic badness” of the adopted side or because it lead to defeat. The other option is to paint the whole thing as Hungary being the misfortunate victim of history. This option is not convincing at all. What the current Hungarian government is doing cannot be justified in terms of victimhood; if Hungary is victim of anything, is of its own government.
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@zsuzso7 I do appreciate the processes of your reflections. But, for one thing, as much as Hitler made things black and white when he invaded Poland, started the war and all the barbaric things he became responsible for, the world today is witnessing similar black and white contrast. Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is purely evil. No matter the weaknesses of the European project, that aggression against Ukraine has no comparison. In a black and white contest one must take a side. Russia is the wrong side. I personally have many Russian friends who I admire and love. I do believe they deserve much better than a criminal kleptocrat imperialist regime which has no place in this Century. Was not for that, I was not having this conversation with you. By the way, I have also five Hungarian friends who I like and very much admire. I believe you understand why I am outraged by the posture of Hungarian government.
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@karlvongazenberg8398 it does not matter from which part of the USSR came from; Russia had power hegemony in the USSR.
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@karlvongazenberg8398 My reply is simple, so you do not get lost in my arguments nor get lost in your own arguments. If Hungary does not accept EU principles, standards and methods, Hungary can try to get enough countries on its side and try to change the rules. If iHungary does not have enough convincing arguments for that, it has two options: shut up and comply or get out. The British had the guts to do just that, for better or worse. Hungary cannot behave like a member of a divorced couple who wants to carry on having rights over the other, outside and in bed. Orban only disrupts, but is not capable of constructing and have no moral courage to be consequent with his pretentious objectives. Will Hungary continue to be lead by his combination of recklessness, irresponsibility, unreliability and lack of guts? Who knows?
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@karlvongazenberg8398 Very simple again. If Orban in his thoughts and actions supports and states that Putin is right, Orban must not be nowhere near EU and EU presidency. There will be a big crisis but he will be eventually kicked out. One cannot serve two bosses at the same time, especially when the two bosses are in severe antagonism and conflict. Orban will not solve the conflict. He has to take a side. He seems to have already taken Putin’s side. Full stop.
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@zsuzso7 I wish I was a paid troll. My indignation with what is happening in Ukraine is so big that I consider joining Ukrainian army.
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Orban stands all the humiliation because his boss, Putin, wants him inside EU to try to produce disruption. Everyone knows, the only value Orban has for Putin is exactly his presence in EU. If he and Hungary leaves EU, he will no longer be of any value for Putin. He stands all humiliation for this humiliating reason. Despicable spectacle of a man without moral and shame.
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It is clear Orban does not respect the EU principles. It is clear he is closer to Putin’s ideas than the EU objectives. It is clear he has interests in following Putin’s intention to disrupt and destroy EU. He attempts to do this from inside. But he will not succeed. He is weak, small and has no moral ground to stand. He shakes hands with criminals, Putin is one of them, and cynically come to the EU Parliament pretending he has anything to say to justify himself. He must be coherent and leave EU. He must try to convince the Hungarian people that Hungary must leave the EU. No one in EU will miss him or what he represents - fascism.
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Orban, you are not welcome in the EU. Be ashamed of yourself for being in a place that despises you. Get moral courage and get out. You are humiliating yourself by standing inside the European Parliament.
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@zsuzso7 I do not want to concede victory to a bandit, criminal thief and assassin, wanting to have his way by blackmailing the whole world with his threats of using nuclear weapons. No, we must defeat him; there is no place for giving him nothing else but total defeat. If we let him get away with what he wants, where will he stop? Putin must be defeated. There is no negotiation. He must be defeated as Hitler was.
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@zsuzso7 once again, YouTube deleted my long reply to you. I do not know why. There are many things to talk about in your comments. But, to avoid YT censorship again, I just say, yes, there is black and white. There are non-negotiable principles. If we accept to be subordinated to the will of bandits, there will be no future for decency, respect and honesty. There will be only oppression and subordination to the will of the powerful evil.
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@keresztnevemvezeteknevem5395 Orban stands all the humiliation because his boss, Putin, wants him inside EU to try to produce disruption. Everyone knows, the only value Orban has for Putin is exactly his presence in EU. If he and Hungary leaves EU, he will no longer be of any value for Putin. He stands all humiliation for this humiliating reason. Despicable spectacle of a man without moral and shame.
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