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"Overdoing things" IS our one and only german character flaw.
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I bet this gun could be overengineered some more with some watercooling for the mechanical parts/barrel ... so it can fire longer ... and a tea-maker attachment for the british army.
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I read about this concept 30 years ago and thought it was stupid back then already ... even before starting to study material sciences ... which gives me now an even better understanding that it is completely bonkers/impractical. All you need to look at is "little plastic cartriges to hold the ammunition" ... which is not going to work well if you are outside on the battlefield.
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They might be running around with them ... but wont have any ammo. That is the biggest problem: SPECIAL AMMO ... which makes it expensive to use.
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CDs? Are you living in the 90s? There is loads of space for an MP3 player in the front ... and maybe the speakers in the back "package"?
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Additionally I would like to point out the number of moving/rotating parts in the "watch mechanism" ... which will need to be well oiled or they will suffer a loss of precision and/or safety through use. Making a super complex machine means that more parts can break down AND these parts cant be fixed as easily/in the field.
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@p_serdiuk Just look at how thin these magazine strips are ... they will EASILY get bent out of shape ... not the ones in the gun but any spares that you are handling (maybe you drop it and so on). Polymer magazines have relatively thick wall shape AND are relatively wide - compared to these "shell-width" magazines on this gun, which makes regular magazines much more resistant to being bent as compared to these long strip magazines. Its basic geometry.
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Not with the plastic boxes ... that would be a big problem too, because what happens if these "empty boxes" get hit (or you drop the gun and they crack)? Do they have enough strength to continue to perform?
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Caseless ammo has to "stay in shape" all of its own, must not "glue together with the rounds left and right of it" (remember the flat surfaces), be used fully without residue and stay useable for a decent bit of time ... I wonder if you have to refill those magazines with special tools too, so you dont squish any "cartridge". Its like the King Tiger in WWII: it is brilliantly effective, BUT the USA could build NINE SHERMANS for the price of one King Tiger ...
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@Enthropical_Thunder The ammunition in itself is far too problematic ... just imagine magazines being shaken a bit and these strips being bent. Also: do you think you can just refill these mags with your hands? I dont think so ... because you might damage the caseless cartridge. This all raises the price of the ammo far too much and makes it too complicated to use. It is a basic principle ... you can either have "a beautiful Panther Tank" OR "several T34" for the same amount of money ... and this tells it all. https://youtu.be/p5fEsNwHSDs
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A suggestion for these shooting range videos would be to "film the target too" so people can see how good it stays together/how precisely hits are repeatable.
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Pope Innocent II. banned the use of crossbows, bows and slings against christians. in 1139. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Innocent_II
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Ian is the right size for a "tanker".
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Nah ... "straight magazines have the wrong gun" ... /point at the G11
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6:20 One thing I can see as "problematic" is using the rifle right-handed ... while the cartridges come flying out on the left side. That is a lot of fast-moving pieces which could irritate your eyes and these might even hit the left arm while shooting standing up.
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They probably didnt bother teaching the people that got issued with these guns that they might need to clean them. If you see any pictures of the "Volkssturm" and see "people in normal suits/clothes with rifles" ... those are the truly last ditch ones, because they didnt have any uniforms. In 1944 they were still being given uniforms as well.
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Overengineering works ... if you are NOT in a war and basically have unlimited money to spend on things. Otherwise it is bad ... and a sign of THE one character flaw of us germans: overdoing it ... which we also do with our norms and the EU now.
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@nejlaakyuz4025 Nah ... not the theoretical ones ... practical physicists, the ones who know how a screwdriver works.
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If you actually want a gun for space (vacuum) this seems like a brilliant concept because the recoil is "filtered" by the gun AND there arent any empty cartridges flying around ... however ... there are loads of problems with the materials, because in space there is no oxygen to create a tiny oxidised layer on a piece of metal ... and if you have pure metal on metal they will "fuse together", which would kill the whole complicated mechanism.
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@Forgotten Weapons ... concerning the "legal/quality issues" of the rifle I would say that "it has been pushed beyond its performance envelope" is the right call. Here is why: - There is a term in german called "eierlegende Wollmilchsau" (egg-laying, wool- and milk-giving pig) which was created in the Bundeswehr for weapon systems that "can do it all". This seems to be a trend, but not a good trend, because it usually ruins the weapon. - It was the reason for the Starfighter desasters we had 40 years back, after the Bundeswehr demanded that this fighter plane to be modified to carry [nuclear] bombs [provided by the allies] for example. This ruined the working aerial capabilities and made it MUCH harder/DANGEROUS to fly and the reason for many many crashes and dead pilots. - Some newer aircraft projects seem to have the same problems ... where "feature creep" pushes delivery of the planes further back and makes the whole thing FAR more expensive. - This "one rifle to do it all" mentality seems to be appliccable to the G36 "desaster" ...
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Shouldnt it have improved the shooting result if you had put the legs forward? That would have reduced the angle from any sideways movement ...
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As someone who used to build / paint / modify models (Warhammer) in the past the plastic case doesnt look well finished with a lot of flash.
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The plastics look "very 60s" ... which should be somewhat fragile by now. [Plastics degrade automatically over time on their own due to the carbon-carbon-bindings breaking up ... over the course of a few decades they become brittle. If you leave them out in sunlight this will be sped up.]
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The AK is basically "the opposite design of what a german would do" ... and this is reflected in the tanks of the time too, as "The Mighty Jingles" explains when he talks about his favorite five tanks in the Bovington Tank Museum: https://youtu.be/p5fEsNwHSDs He also "shows" the difference between german and british building ... "beautifully perfect" vs. "good enough".
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Did Finland get MASSIVE arms deliveries from "the West" during their war? Nah ... so you cant compare these two in any way.
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Spandau is a district on the western end of Berlin which probably wasnt integrated into Berlin at that time yet.
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So, Ian, what would you call a muzzle loaded rifle then? They dont have rifling ...
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I did study "material science" and a professor once asked: "which is the most important property of a material? hardness, tensile strength, weight, density, ... ?" Nope ... THE PRICE!
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A song/rhyme about the use of these guns in colonial wars: We have one, they have none ...
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With the "sling-grip/hold" on the shortened shotgun it can also be used as a "punching weapon" in case of a fight turning into a melee ... no idea about the potential for damaging the weapon if you try to bash in a thin door or window, but the closeness to the hand means it is guided more precisely than with a stock.
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Was the person writing the requirements list for the rifle of german descent? This sounds like a request for a "do-it-all" weapon. There is a term in german - eierlegende Wollmilchsau [egg-laying, wool- and milk-producing pig] - which was created in the Bundeswehr for "weapon systems that can do it all". That's how they ruined the Starfighter for example ... by adding requirements which would make the plane dangerous to fly. This rifle concept seems to be of exactly this mindset.
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Seeing a display "live" is different from seeing it on a 2D screen. In times of countries in debt the problem is that MUSEUMS COST A LOT OF MONEY ... and thus they either a) NEED THE FUNDING from the entrance fees and/or b) NEED A JUSTIFICATION FOR RECEIVING PUBLIC FUNDING ... by attracting the biggest crowds.
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Just look at the Starfighter / F-104... which was DESIGNED as a perfectly good FIGHTER jet ... but the BUREAUCRATS of Germany demanded it be modified to be a bomber as well (they didnt want to buy fighters AND bombers, so "one size fits all" was implemented) ... which resulted in the flight characteristics being altered to make it a DEADLY plane to fly. Out of the 900+ planes they had 292 crashed, killing 118 pilots.
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September is the 9th month ... October is 10th.
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I stopped playing WoWS when they started catering to CONSOLE PEASANTS with the carrier revamp garbage. They also managed to make the Masters of Orion revamp boring ...
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Doesnt seem to be very practical ... just design the briefcase so it can drop easily to give access to the weapon inside. That would make it much more flexible because it a) hasnt got to be designed for a specific weapon, b) can be used in a regular manner instead of this wonky way and c) isnt useless after 30 rounds but can be reloaded regularly. A real firefight will involve lots of running and "using your arms" (to push your dignitary out of harms way, open doors or knock down enemies) so using a weapon that requires both arms is stupid.
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I wanted to show how "big" this really is ...
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Why did they add a magazine for a "manually operated" pistol? It would make the gun even simpler if you reload manually too.
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