Comments by "Muck006" (@Muck006) on "Rotherham Grooming Survivor Speaks Out" video.

Just FYI ... there have been LOADS of "grooming gang reports" for local councils ... most of them rather bad and flawed, but even such flawed reports can highlight "a PROBLEM" to the people concerned ( VOTERS! ) when the report is actually used to "promote the Council" instead of looking into the victims and perpetrators and THE FAILINGS OF THE COUNCIL! Some reports are full of "neat and colourful graphics but NO SUBSTANCE" too ... The point is: - the REASON for the "street-grooming gangs" made up of largely men from "a certain religion & region" has to be found in their CULTURE ... and maybe this text will help explain it: https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/msp/pages/162/attachments/original/1396724215/MSP_Report_-_Forced_Marriages_and_Conversions_of_Christian_Women_in_Pakistan.pdf?1396724215 [they are just not bothering with the first parts of this "tradition" ... MOST of the time, but there is at least one case of a 15-year old british girl who was abducted, "married" and then kept as a wife/slave for 12 years ... with 8 abortions during that time] - the REASON for "police and social service inaction" is more or less a) police being absolutely UNDERSTAFFED [1], COMPLETELY INEPT [2] and also POLITICALLY MISGUIDED [3] My list of "grooming gang articles" is close to 1300 entries [just the newspaper/media articles] and quite a few grooming gang "reports". [1] I unearthed an article where a former police officer explained they were simply "giving up on tackling prostitution" around 1994 because other crimes needed "everyone" to work on them. [2] Police showing up with police cars to the house of rape victims ... thus "mortifying them" to the point where complaints were withdrawn AND police / social services acting "like a robot" following a program. [3] Labour and their "ignore the EXPLOITED girls, they made a lifestyle choice" guidance for Police ... completely ignoring the LAW which makes sex with underage girls A CRIME.
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@danielwatson3273 The problem is that she is most likely only ONE OF A HANDFUL who "manage to deal with it" and turn it into something more. Most are suffering in silence ... just read: Victim impact statements read out to Sheffield Crown Court, South Yorks., told how many of the victims suffer from depression and anxiety as adults. They also told how one victim did not feel safe in her own home and would not leave the house after dark. Others described how they were scared to visit the town centre and certain "hotspots" in the area where offences took place as they "brought back memories". https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/vile-predator-told-victims-mother-16846135 There is a FAR BIGGER issue here: - Why are ONLY VERY FEW BRITS actually "interested" in this? - Why are ONLY VERY FEW BRITS actually CARING for the girls and READY TO DO SOMETHING AGAINST THE PERPETRATORS? - Why are ONLY VERY FEW BRITS actually interested in "hate speech laws" and how they will end the freedom of people to speak their minds? The answer is easy: British LIBERALISM has made people SELF-CENTERED ... and as long as "a problem" doesnt knock at their doors ... PEOPLE DONT BOTHER. It is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody_else's_problem ... and Douglas Adams' description even includes this as "a cloaking field".
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@danielwatson3273 One more thing: the VICTIMS are "being punished" by the government, because many of them were "forced"/"convinced" to COMMIT CRIMES while they were being groomed ... and if they apply for a job they have to disclose the crimes. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/child-sex-abuse-survivors-claim-ministers-are-still-punishing-them-f7m3gkhwl Sammy Woodhouse for example was "found in a half-dressed state" together with her "boyfriend" (rapist) and he had asked her to PUT A TRUNCHEON (an illegal weapon) in HER BAG. The police found HER "in possession of the weapon" and thus SHE GOT CONVICTED FOR IT ... while they completely ignored him having sex with an underage girl. Lots of these charges also include drugs and theft/robbery ...
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@ozone1959 Dude ... forget about the Royals ... they are unimportant and "the government" is equally unimportant. The REAL PROBLEM is the BUREAUCRATS, NOT the politicians ... because bureaucrats actually write the laws and memos and shape policy far more than you think.
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@taranis6009 Guns dont solve problems ... because a) you are just as likely to shoot someone innocent AND b) you need to FIGURE OUT THE GUILTY by ASKING QUESTIONS ... so shove that american attitude back where the sun dont shine. The ONLY way to win is to WIN THE MEDIA WAR ... and the only way to do that is to BECOME THE VICTIMS: https://youtu.be/yrHNig2aIjQ Other than this there is the option of CONSTANT PRESSURE ON THE POLITICIANS ... like this: https://youtu.be/2OjCesZRf_I
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Not to be a downer on your moods, but ... Boris Johnson didnt want to spend money on "clearing up historic sexual abuse" either: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/13/boris-johnson-under-fire-over-remarks-about-child-abuse-inquiries Let us hope he changed his mind!
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@danielwatson3273 Make no mistake ... even though Sarah Champion helped uncover this garbage ... she is still a "leftie" and friend of Jess Phillips. Any help is better than no help though, so supporting Champion is a good thing. There is a "new kid on the block" though who got elected last december ... https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/news/28876/laura-farris-vote-for-me.html Maybe she has a bit more "fresh motivation to do something" and with a little support could be made to go after grooming gangs full time. The thing to do is to "wake up the british populace" and make them "force" the politicians to "behave" by constantly reminding them about this problem (and all the other stuff that needs to change ... like the sex education for pre-puberty-children). Just today I was reminded of a powerful adversary: the OPEN FOUNDATION, a.k.a. GEORGE SOROS ... and they have put a lot of money into convincing "the EU" to IGNORE ETHNICITY ... which has led to the end of Stop and Search in London for example ("muh institutional police racism") but also - most likely - to media NOT MENTIONING ETHNICITY / RELIGION of grooming gang members anymore (except when they are from Romania ...). The Open Foundation doesnt do that directly, but other NGOs use their "research" and propaganda material ... which contradicted itself even on one of the first of 232 pages. Not being able to call a spade a spade severely hampers any effort to "explain the existence of the grooming gangs to the general public". I am pretty sure it could be done with the stuff I have so far ... but it needs to be done properly AND there needs to be several introductions ... to explain why all the media and activist language of "-ists" and "-phobes" is ACTUALLY just THOUGHT-TERMINATING CLICHÉs ... designed to CONDITION THE LISTENERS / BELIEVERS into a certain behaviour. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning Pavlov trained his dog by blowing a whistle whenever he got food ... and eventually the dog would start producing saliva by just blowing the whistle and without any food. People who believe in thought-terminating clichés have been conditioned to SHY AWAY from the people/arguments brought up by "those evil people" ... with the result that THE PROBLEMS NEVER GET DISCUSSED! For this reason such an introduction needs to be made to a) possibly free the minds of listeners and b) serve as a warning shot to the media / activists "WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO AND WHY YOU ARE DOING IT!"
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J and M I am just someone "doing the legwork" ... and I dont even have the equipment to make videos (not even a mobile phone ...). I am however helping a youtuber called "Not So Obvious" with the collection, who started the "atrocity project" on his channel with the goal of making a documentary "later in the year" (pre-lockdown estimate). He has made a few livestreams going through the Jay Report a few months back, but some health (voice) issues had prevented him from doing more of those. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkPE2CEtRmH26KbtbGtJAYg I dont think we need "more people" talking about this ... especially not "nobodies like me" ... and I rather support those who already have an audience ... and can spread the message to a wider audience. Not being on Twitter, not even having recording equipment (not even a mobile phone) and "being a bit out here in Germany" doesnt really help either.
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J and M The thing about this problem of CSE is ... it is SPECIFICALLY BRITISH ... for - in my SUBJECTIVE OPINION - one reason: The LIBERAL BRITISH CULTURE! - it gave you "the swinging sixties" with enormous creativity (Jimmy Savile and other perpetrators started back then), BUT - also causes "the population" to adopt a "if it doesnt concern me directly ... I will not take notice of it" attitude of LOOKING THE OTHER WAY. This is the reason why "Brits dont like to protest" and also "the police looking for reasons to NOT involve themselves in it. - the liberal attitude also allowed for "foreign communities to stay separate and live according to their own rules" ... which was fine for Sikhs, Hindus and others ... but NOT for Pakistanis / muslims. Only 3% of the children of british pakistanis are from mixed marriages and most Pakistani marriages are a) arranged and b) "within the family", which results in: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3162989/The-brave-woman-dares-shatter-toxic-taboo.html This opinion of mine might be flawed ... but Britain is really REALLY "out there at the top" when it comes to CSE and even though there will be the occasional case in another country, these things happen "on a daily basis" in Britain. Even "liberalism" has its flaws as an ideology ... and people need to realize and acknowledge this. Personally I see this as "just a small piece in a far bigger fight" ... against communism. Yuri Bezmenov talked about it in the 80s and my personal experience says "he told the truth" ... and having seen the "you're all fascists in the West" propaganda from the GDR means I can explain why the current use of thought-terminating clichés is "a communist tactic". The british Deep State is probably the easiest to "crack", because it is easy to show how the police and social services DID NOTHING to help these girls ... and in theory they should all be "sueable" for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omission_(law) ... because THEY HAD THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CARE ... and didnt.
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J and M The situation in Britain does seem to be BLEAK, because the "lover boys" dont really need to be pretty. All it takes is a few gifts, maybe some food ... including ALCOHOL (which underage shouldnt be drinking) ... then some drugs and you're done. Oh and a flashy car to pick them up helps, but many times it just was a taxi and its driver ... The problem of Brits is LIBERALISM ... which made everyone SELF-CENTERED, i.e. people dont care about "general problems". That is the reason why protests in Britain are PITIFUL. Here in Germany there are regular (once a year) protests against the agricultural INDUSTRY ... in JANUARY ... when its COLD. They get 30-50.000 people every year. Even the freedom of speech or Tommy Robinson protests didnt really break the 10.000. Oh and it took the people of the GDR to protest in crowds of 70-100.000 every monday to make the government change. Those are the numbers which are going to be required for them to MOVE THEIR ASSES! A lot of work to be done ...
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J and M "Liberalism" (in my definition) is basically about "the FREEDOM of the INDIVIDUAL" ... and this has consequences, because people are "focusing on THEMSELVES and their own rights", they become SELF-CENTERED. This works fine and dandy in a world with low population density, where people "HAVE TO take care for themselves", but the more this density increases the less liberal can a society afford to be. You NEED "police" and "rules" to keep order. There is a BASIC PROBLEM with "ideologies" like Marxism and also Liberalism ... and I can explain it easily with an analogy: In school you learn about chemistry and physics ... and both these subjects have "equasions" to explain "principles / laws" ... but TO MAKE THEM WORK you need an ENGINEER to create a machine / technology ... and these always have LOSSES / REQUIREMENTS involved with them. The big problem of Marxism - which is a THEORY dreamt up by someone "in his study" - and also liberalism ... is that the "engineering part", the "how CAN this work IRL" is missing and certain people are RELIGIOUSLY FOLLOWING THE HOLY TEXT TO THE LETTER. A really big example for liberalism is SARGON OF AKKAD, who always proclaims himself to be a "classical liberal" and who has gotten his knowledge out of BOOKS. He has NEVER spoken about the downsides of liberalism ... and this is the same behaviour as all the Marxists, Feminists, SJWs, radical muslims, ... show. There are downsides to EVERY IDEOLOGY ... and for british liberalism/liberal culture the SEPARATIST MUSLIM COMMUNITIES showcase a serious problem. Nobody is really talking about this. The other aspect is the "looking away/not caring unless it affects you direclty" part ... which would explain the unwillingness to protest. As long as people do not acknowledge these downsides of their own ideology, they are in danger of a) being a religious zealot and b) destroying things ... and you can destroy things actively (like radical muslims and communists) or passively (like "classical liberals" who dont realize that there need to be LIMITATIONS to "freedoms" and by not enacting those limitations they are giving free reign to other active ideologies). Liberals are the ones who vote for a law - like Bill C-16 in Canada - because the law says "rights" or "freedom" in the text/name ... without thinking about the consequences. That is how liberals destroy: by NOT CARING, NOT THINKING IT THROUGH! --- Concerning the Stephen Lawrence inquiry: the MacPherson report (or the "analysis" which followed) introduced the term "institutionally racist" for ALL police. "Racist" is a THOUGHT-TERMINATING CLICHÉ just like fascist, sexist, islamophobe, ... and not meant to "tell the truth" but rather to CONDITION THE LISTENERS who believe. This has been done by the communists all throughout the Cold War, although they were just limited to the word "fascist". The [Berlin] Wall was the "anti-fascist protection wall" in their rhetoric and Antifa (the "anti-fascists") was conceived in Berlin with lots of help from East Germany's STASI. The ONLY "directive" you should give to the police is "UPHOLD THE LAW ... NO MATTER WHAT and NO MATTER WHO!", but Britain has even adopted SOCIAL JUSTICE in their LAW: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/dec/12/celebrities-fame-sex-offences-sentences-guidelines so you get a harsher sentence if you are "rich and famous"? That is NOT BLIND (and thus impartial) JUSTICE! Sure, they also included the grooming gangs in this group of "harsher sentences", but it would be easier to just increase it ACROSS THE BOARD ... 10 years minimum for ANY CSE offense. The whole hate-crime laws and the 2003 Communications Act show that not everyone can "be offended" and have the police arrest others ... it is a law which only applies to certain MORE EQUAL ANIMALS ... --- As for "cultural vulnerability" ... There are always AGGRESSIVE and PASSIVE cultures ... and a passive one will LOSE to an aggressive one all the time. EVERY culture needs to have the right to "defend itself". As a german I have basically given up on Germany, because we have been indoctrinated for decades to "never say no to any foreigners". Our language gets more and more anglicised, our culture is shaped a lot by US TV and movies and english music. There were german fast food restaurants in the past (70s, a chain called "Wienerwald") which served chicken + fries/potatoes ... but they have been replaced by McDonalds and Kebab ... ANYTHING FOREIGN. Liberalism is a PASSIVE culture/ideology ...
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J and M "Classical Liberalism is not a religion" ... that is one problem ... because EVERY IDEOLOGY can become "a religion" [where the followers BELIEVE UNQUESTIONINGLY IN THE TRUTH of the ideology AND are "incapable of seeing the faults/flaws of the ideology" (thus my example with Sargon)]. G.K. Chesterton (a christian) once said: When we stopped believing in god we didnt start believing in nothing but rather in anything. and this is kinda proven to be true by the ZEALOUS behaviour of communists/socialists, feminists, SJWs, but also by capitalim fanboys, and followers of esoteric beliefs. Classical Liberalism can be just as much a religion, but because the ideology is rather passive the "zealous nature" doesnt really appear ... and you have to look for the "are they able to criticise their ideology/see the flaws?" question. --- I am not a fan of collectivism ... I am a fan of LOGIC and "the common good" ... and I have ZERO PATIENCE with collectivists from the left AND the right. All the idiots calling for "non-whites to be kicked out of Britain" for example are failing to acknowledge that many of the non-whites are more british than the white commies spewed out of universities nowadays (like that "doctoral student" who wished death on all Conservative voters during the election). For instance: I prefer the "everyone pays for health care with taxes" NHS to the "everyone for himself" american version ... for the simple reason that it is poor folks who will probably need health care more and it is beneficial to make it easy for them to get some. Our german system - when you are employed you HAVE TO HAVE health insurance AND the employer also has to pay some part - is somewhere in the middle, but it adds complexity and BUREAUCRACY to it ... which ultimately wastes money again, especially when different health insurance companies have different rules for how doctors are billing them. Having the NHS makes it easier for SMALL BUSINESSES (the ones who actually pay "most of what they are supposed to pay in taxes") to employ someone because of less paperwork. It is an "emotional argument" at some level ... but I do think logical decisions far outweigh it, because everyone but the most rabid self-centered idiot has to realize that our societies only work because "someone is gathering the trash and driving the public transports in the middle of the night" and we need to take care of them (or our cities will end up like Italy ... with trash heaps on the street). So IMO logic outweighs emotion for my decisions. Maybe my view of liberalism is coloured by the behaviour of todays "liberal" parties, but there is always a kernel of truth in it. A great example is our german liberal party, the FDP, which had a paper [Wiesbadener Grundsätze] about their values ... and it started with a great headline: "Freedom is responsibility" ... but then they made that responsibility VOLUNTARY in the "small print" again, which makes it entirely pointless to have that headline. That party has the reputation of "being a bunch of wealthy self-serving a-holes" ... because they lobbied for "special rules for hotel owners". I bet there are similar stories about the LibDems ... and OBVIOUSLY 95% of the times anyone says "liberal" these days they actually mean "communist" or "left-wing" instead, which is happening because "all you english types" have no clue about the real definition of left- and right-wing[1] ... and thus fill it with garbage. The definition for "liberal" went out the window as well and just meant "freedom / rights" ... and thus every left-wing policy which used those terms became a "liberal" policy. [1] Again Sargon is one of the worst transgressors ... because he is actually "believing" that the Nazis are left-wing ... because he THINKS "socialism is left-wing" ... it isnt. Listening to Tim Pool also shows a bit of a "fuzzy definition" ... but since he doesnt talk about Nazis being left-wing, he gets off the hook. The problem with Sargon is - again - his BOOK-LEARNING ... his THEORETICAL knowledge ... and the fact that he only looks for similarities and overlooks the IMPORTANT DIFFERENCES between communists and fascists/Nazis.
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@derekmoore8224 As a german I would compare it to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification ... except for communists.
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@markomeister13 I think this article sums up your first comment: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/a-dangerous-silence Oh and NEITHER "the girls" NOR "the police" were "aware" of the AGE OF CONSENT laws ... so TELLING THE GIRLS about this would be a good start!
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kindinot Ummm ... sure she needs to be brave, because she gets attacked on Twitter all the time for raising the issue and asking questions. Her Twitter is "locked" atm (wasnt a few days ago) ... https://twitter.com/EllaHillUK There are also POWERFUL organisations which want to "explain away the connection to islam and pakistan" ... and they are winning atm. Then there is also the CICA, which handles "compensation for victims of crimes" ... which had denied/reduced compensation for groomed girls with various excuses. Sure you need to be brave ... and "help" isnt really out there that much.
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