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Pyotr Kurzin | Geopolitics
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Comments by "LLlap" (@LLlap) on "NATO's Infighting is the Biggest Threat to Ukraine" video.
Bombs glide from planes. Pkanes live on airfields in russia. West says it's ok for russia to use chinese, iranian and north korean rockets. But says it's bad if Ukraine uses the wests missiles against planes. Poland could have shot down a rocket that killed wife and 3 daughters leaving only the dad. But US told them not or there might be escalation. Thd west wants for russian rockets and planes to run out killing ukrainian people.
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23:40 No. It's not fair to say Ukraine is stuck in tug of war. And what are you talking about Ukraine not being an indepedndant state?
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@theglobalgambit tug of war implies no agency on the part of Ukraine. which is one of the russian narratives. It implies that the West was somehow PULLING Ukraine. In fact as you well know the West in the person of Gerorge Bush Sr came and spoke in Ukrainian Rada as the USSR was breaking up and urged Ukraine to remain under Russia. All US presidents declined to let Ukraine into NATO or EU. Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama - all "recognized Ukraine as a key Russian interest". Obama urged Ukraine to do nothing and watch as Russia seized Crimea and invaded Donbass. And Ukraine did nothing. Biden expected Putin to conquer Ukraine in a matter of weeks and did all he could to reiterate daily that US soldier WILL NOT defend Ukraine. So what Tug of War are you talking about?
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@theglobalgambit I wrote a lengthy reply and it seems YT just deleted it. I'll try again and maybe repost it as a separate comment. Tug of War hos no agent in the middle. Only 2 agents at the ends. It implies a lack of agency of Ukraine. Tug of War implies the West was Pulling Ukraine. When in actuality: 1. George Bush Sr came and spoke in Rada to urge Ukraine to remain under Russia when the USSR was breaking apart. 2. Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama - all did not let Ukraine into EU or NATO. all "recognized Ukraine as a key Russian interrest". 3. When Russia invaded Crimea and Donbass urged Ukraine to not respond. Not respond it did. Russian annexed it's land and ZERO consequences followed. 4. Biden made a deal with putin to let him invade Ukraine. Then spend every hour reiterating how US soldiers will not defend Ukraine. Then was shocked when Ukraine did not succumb to Russia in 3 weeks or so, as he had planned. So what Tug of War are you talking about? here's a better analogy: There is a Castle and the rich wealthy West sits in it and trades with the Barbarians. The Barbarians come and pillage the peasants living in front of the Castle. The Castle has arms and walls but wont let the peasants in. They watch the Barbarians destroy the peasants and wonder how much longer they have to wait to resume trade with the Babarians.
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You know he lost, right?
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@ItsDeebs and then there was another election where he lost. So what's your point?
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Ukraine had more different presidents (6) since 1991 than USA (5). And US presidential term is 4 years while in Ukraine it's 5. NK -1. Russia - 3.
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Tug of War has no agent in the middle. Only 2 agents at the ends. It implies a lack of agency from Ukraine. Tug of War also implies the West was Pulling Ukraine. When in actuality: 1. George Bush Sr came and spoke in Rada to urge Ukraine to remain under Russia when the USSR was breaking apart. 2. Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama - all did not permit Ukraine to join EU or NATO. All of them "recognized Ukraine as a key Russian interest". 3. When Russia invaded Crimea and Donbass the West urged Ukraine to not respond. So what Tug of War are you talking about?
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@theglobalgambit precisely what is wrong?
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@theglobalgambit still thinking that one over huh? I mean you wouldn't just come out and say stuff like that and not have any proof right?
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