Comments by "bobby hans" (@user-oc7ll9sv5r) on "Moscow hit by ‘massive’ Ukrainian drone attack" video.

  1. The Russian have been unable to defeat both Afghanistan and now the Ukraine SO DOBBLE LOSE . How do you think they'd go taking on 27 at once like the EU Russia has lost over 880000 troops and over half of its military hardware / equipment and have only 17% of Ukraine land mass so based on those fig Russia simply does not have enough troops and military hardware to take over Ukraine and it will cost even more to hold it !! Between Assad losing Syria, NATO adding Finland and Sweden, Russia losing tens of thousands of soldiers to a war it wasn't prepared for and thousands of prime skilled workers to emigration, and Russian money is being poured into a fruitless slaughterfest of dead Russians; ending up as fertulrzer on the battlefield and feeding the crows and ravens in east Ukraine ...I don't know how anyone can say Russia is truly "winning" right now even if they do get some more land in Ukraine.. Yes Between Assad losing Syria, NATO adding Finland and Sweden, Russia losing tens of thousands of soldiers to a war it wasn't prepared for and thousands of prime skilled workers to emigration, and Russian money is being poured into a fruitless slaughterfest of dead Russians; ending up as fertulrzer on the battlefield and feeding the crows and ravens in east Ukraine ...I don't know how anyone can say Russia is truly "winning" right now even if they do get some more land in Ukraine.. Yes Russia is taking potato fields and a tiny worthless village in east Ukraine, yes if you can see this fruitless slaughterfest that is costing the lives of 1500++ Russian soldiers bleeding out and dying every a day as wining the war then yes you maybe right you got some potato fields and a tiny worthless village BRAVO !! (and then claiming some sort of victory is correct ) However in the meantime , Ukraine is targeting deep into Russian proper ; Ukraine is hitting every day Russian vital economic centers of the Russian economy ; Ukraine is flying its drones with impunity hitting Russias oil refinery, Russias gas and petroleum installations, Russia railways infrastructure, Russias military industrial complex, and Ukraine has been extremely effective with this type of attacks ; and Russias "air defense" attempts to stop Ukraine in attacking their infrastructure that is vital for the functioning of Russia society and its economy has proven impossible for Moscow ... ON A SIDE NOTE : A FACT THAT GETS  OVERLOOKED IS  : Ukraine army and defense is much stronger better equipment and bigger (more trained active soldiers ) now (it has become bigger not smaller over time) its better organized and has more experience more weapons more diverse weaponry more high tech weaponry now than it was back in 2013 and even back in 2022 why stronger not weaker !! Ukraine after 3 years of war has the strongest, most experienced and best equipped army in Europe. They have 800,000 battle experienced troops that are running rings around the Russian meat wave attacks. With support from other non-USA countries supplying the necessary equipment Ukraine can win the war against the invaders. Unlike Russia it has become less equipped and has lower quality human resource Maybe you can explain to me how a country that can not take east Ukraine for 2 years and lost its black sea navy to a country without a navy ; a country that needs to beg and kissassssss to North Korea for weapons to survive a country that can even defend its own territories in Kursk Oblast a county that is pushing in untrained men into combat because it has no more well trained soldiers left a county that is using Chinese electric golf-carts and Chinese mopeds to attack with because they so low on proper military equipment ! a country that now is so low on combat soldiers that its striping its Murmansk navy personal and forcing sailors to take up infantry fighting roles in a land army .. A country that os low of spare parts for its air force a country that has en economy that is so bad no international banks not even Chinese banks wants to touch them !!! NOTE : Also Putin is scraping the bottom of the bucket recruiting from African countries and china and North Korea ; Putin is begging North Korea for help and Venezuela for help ALSO LETS NOT FORGET Ukraine has pushed the Russian Army all the why over the river in the south and even made a foothold on the east side of the river !! Ukraine has liberated more territory since the full scale invasion over 2 years ago than Russia has taken (is the outskirts of KYIV under Russian control like it was 2 years ago ?) Putin is losing 1200 soldiers a DAY if you haven't even taken all cities and villages in the Donbas how can you claim to be a victor hahaahaha HOW IS THAT COUNTRY (RUSSIA ) GOING TO WIN !!  Maybe if you explain it, I can understand how. I SAY Russia has humiliated themselves right from the start of this stupidity all the way back in 2014 and Kremlin and Putin has continuously humiliated himself and Russia ever since. The fact the Kremlin remain in this war, even when they know they cant win, and are willing to destroy themselves just proves how totally clueless they are....adding to their humiliation so Russia is already humiliated and broken . FACT Russia is already in a worse place than they were before invading their small neighbor, and Russia did this to themselves, the result of their stupidity is that now they have more NATO borders after Finland and Sweden moved towards joining NATO , Putin and Russia is now laughingstock of a military world , and most of their biggest customers of oil and gas are canceling their orders. I will be amazed if Russia hasn't broken up into smaller states within the next decade or so, this is real end of nations stuff that Putins ego and vanity so-stupidly has thrown Russia into; time will show this as complete idiocy from Putin. I serious cannot envision Russia humiliating itself any more than it has already done , but that said , Putins ego is a massive chunk of half-witted, simple, ill-considered , unwise shortsighted buffoonery and NOT the wise geo-political chess player some include Putins own ego likes to say and Putin likes to think he is .. I mean look at Putins strategies so far: recruiting two new Nato members, selling oil at a discount to 3 world countries and giving free tanks and equipment to Ukrainian army because of those tanks running out of fuel and ammunition. YES THE Master strategist Putin. Who’s lost much more than 30% of his armor, who sacrificed innumerable Russian lives in a failed attempt to take Kyiv and Snake Island, who pushed Finland and Sweden into joining NATO, who sunk the flagship of his Navy… yesssss all going according to plan.HAHA !! TO SUM UP : NATO never had to defend against superior forces I think it is rich for NATO trying to tell Ukraine how to fight a war against Russia, when Ukraine has just a bit more experience actually fighting Russia.Ukrainians should be training British Troops on the latest techniques of war. NATO now actually needs Ukraine to join NATO because no other NATO army knows how to fight with drones. NATO military doctrines are out of date. I fear that increased military spending will be billions on a useless aircraft carrier rather than making millions of FPV assault drones NATO needs Ukraine to show them how to fight a high tech drone war of 2025 +++
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  2. THE AID IS NOT 350 BILLION AT ALL THATS A LIE IT IS 120 BILLION (still a lot of money yes ) AND OVER 85 % OF THAT MONEY WAS NOT SENDT TO UKRAINE IT WAS USED TO RESTOCK WITH NEW WEAPONS FOR THE US. OWN STOCK ; REPLACING ITS OWN STOCK , THAT SOON WILL HAVE BEEN PASS ITS SHELF-LIFE ANYWAY AND IN NEEDS OF DESTRUCTION !! So the aid Trump is talking about is no where in reality at all it is only in his lying head only !!! There was never 350 Billion there is not 350 billion there is a 120 billion yes but NOT a 350 Billion .. Also when Trump claims US has sent more than Europe that is wrong as well the EU has sent 135 billion US sent 120 Billion .. A good eks , is Denmark the tiny country of 6 million, has donated 8.2 billion usd. Compared to Americas contribution of 120 billion, that would be 451 billion or about 4 times as much per capita. So much for US lies and taking credit.. DONT BELEVE ME JUST GOOGLE (‘The actual number is $120B, not $350B’: Rattner debunks Trump’s Ukraine aid claims) SIDE NOTE Over 130 countries came to the aid of USA on 9/11. Did any one ask to be paid back? The aid is not free cash it’s the equivalent of those dollars in hardware !!! its hardware from old equipment of military stock piles that will have been sent or about to be sent for destruction and will have been replaced anyway as its shelf life storage l is over and out dated or about to be over date !! (this way US saves money by not having to safely destroy those weapons only replace them ) The military equipment has been pulled directly from existing U.S. military old SURPLUS inventory that has a shelf date that soon will be past that date ; and will be needing replacement anyway this way US. gets to restock its military equipment with more newer updates versions and send the soon to by out of date to Ukraine and as a bonus US. military saves the money it will have used for destroying the old military equipment as well !! Also it is true other parts of the Aid / funding will be used to purchase new weapons and this will be sent to Ukraine; but all sales must be and will be bought from the US industrial complex industry and American manufacturers; this supports local American communities in states (over 33 states ) that produce weapon's this helps marginalized communities and sates get a solid cash influx / bust into their local economy and supports jobs within the factors that will be producing those new weapons.-. (So the money doesn't go into the pockets of Zelensky and friends thats a myth pumped out by Russian propaganda and regurgitated by "pathetic tools" of the kremlin like TuckerCarlsen or MUSK ) Members of Congress have questioned how closely the U.S. is tracking its aid to Ukraine to ensure that it is not subject to fraud or ending up in the wrong hands. The Pentagon’s inspector general told lawmakers at a hearing, that his office has found no evidence of such corruption or wrongdoing, but cautioned that investigations are only in their early stages. The Pentagon’s inspector general also informed the Members of Congress that despite claims to the contrary, the United States is not sending bags of unaccounted-for cash to Ukraine. Most US contributions go to military aid, including weapons and equipment made by American defense contractors who employ communities across the country. When the United States spends money to purchase military equipment as part of an international aid package, the materiel may go overseas, but the money and jobs stay in America. Similarly, appropriations for the US Foreign Military Financing program provide incentives for NATO allies and partners to secure US-made capabilities. This translates to more business for US companies and sustained employment for rural communities in which they operate. For instance, Lockheed Martin, maker of the HIMARS—which has been central to Ukraine’s counteroffensive—plans to increase its Camden, Arkansas facility’s workforce by 20%, and recently announced increased profit projections through the end of the year. Similarly, General Dynamics has committed to building new production facilities in Mesquite, Texas, bringing money and jobs to the region. Change like this takes place only when the Pentagon sends strong and stable market signals to the defense industry, giving it the confidence to expand and hire. In short, the numbers suggest that continued support for Ukraine is a win-win for Ukrainians and the American people. The United States can continue to defend stability and democratic governance across the globe, while at the same time boosting American industrial output and advancing US economic interests.
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  3. GIVING A SURRENDER IS NOT A PEACE DEAL ITS A SHAKE DOWN !!!! Anyone can make a peace deal when they surrender, which is what Trump is asking Ukraine to do. Trump and his admin appear to be Putin's lifeline. Trump is trying to force Ukraine into a capitulation a total surrender ; masquerading as a" PEACE DEAL " its not a peace deal when only one side must give up everything and the other side gets everything it wants ; and it defiantly not a peace deal when one side must give a 3rd party 50% of its natural resources and get nothing in return !! This a MAFIA tactic it is putting a gun to someones head and telling them take this deal now; becouse either your brains or your signature will be on the document your choice ! ITS A SHAKE DOWN NOT A PEACE DEAL !! TRUMP HAS : - undermining democracy in the US by dismantling the division of forces (lawmaking, judiciary and executive). The core of any democracy. Clearly only benefits Russia - tariffs hurt everybody (also US) but NOT Russia. - creating international instability with his talks on Greenland, Canada and Panama. Typical Russian doctrine. If they fight amongst each-other, they don't focus on Russia. You just need to give them something to fight about. THIS ONLY BENEFITS RUSSIA - his wife Melania was born and raised in communist Yugoslavia. Is she his agent handler?? Its obvious what happened. A US president tried to shake down a foreign leader for mineral rights in Ukraine. The USA has abandoned its leadership role in the world and is now just for sale. The Republicans have lost their minds and perhaps their souls. Siding with Russia and trying to force Ukraine to accept an unjust "peace" without any security guarantees, other than you give us 50% of your natural resources rare metals your lithium, cobalt, scandium, graphite, tantalum, and niobium in Ukraine and Putin will never attack you because our companies are inside your country !!!! WOW its was that easy all a long to scare off Putin just send American companies into Ukraine!! LOL ..... That the guarantee thats what they are now telling Zelenskyy this is what Trump and Vance are trying to sell Zelenskyy this is what they say is a security ; WOW thats fantastic then why did the US. need to send all those weapons in the first place should have just sent in Microsoft, Ford motor company , Heinz Tomato Ketchup , Coca Cola , Mac Donalds. together with some big boys like Conoco Philips, Hecla Mining, Chevron and Goldman Sachs and last but not least The Walt Disney Company!! I hear Mickey Mouse big ears really scares Putin to death -- THEY TRYING TO PLAY UKRAINE AND FOR FOOLS SO WHO IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL HERE !!
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  5. MAGA: = Moscow Agent (‘Krasnov’) Governing America Ukraine had an absolutely identical situation in Ukraine, when the Russian agent Yanukovych won the presidential elections back in 2010. The fact that he was recruited by the Russian security service the FSB has already been well documented at this point (he is now living in MOSCOW with 40 billion dollars of stolen Ukrainian state funds. The people of Ukraine, were absolutely confused. when Putins boy Yanukovych took office ; when they did not know what to do. they were apathetic and had no leaders. When Yanukovych got into office he was fast to put other Russian agents in all the key gov. positions. Just so you understand, Yanukovych put a guy who had Russian citizenship in the post of Minister of Defense of Ukraine. Yanukovych and his people destroyed the Ukrainian army by systematic dismantling and shutting down departments; and in 4 years, stole the country's budget. Because of this, Ukraine was absolutely unprepared for the annexation of Crimea and the invasion of Russian "green men" in east Ukraine 2014. I'm not the smartest person in the world, how come Trump is the only president to ever sucked up to Russia, and look how quick he's collapsing the US economy and now the US Allies turning their backs to America, starting a trade war with of all countries Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽 Americans! You are now in the same situation as Ukraine were. Your so-called president is a KGB recruit, agent "Krasnov". This has already been confirmed from various sources. And what he does now confirms it even more. Just look at who he appoints to key positions. How he betrays Ukraine and European allies. How he idolizes Putin. What other signals do you need to start acting? MAGA and Putin are aligned, they want to make sure to make sure they sit with the money and power ; they don't like the free society. They aren't making a mistake. We are still not getting it Trump: 1. Threatens their ex-ally Canada with economic ruin if they don't allow the US to take them over "voluntarily". 2. Threatens Denmark that they will take Greenland from them one way or another because they wants it my precious, so they will haves it. 3. Aligns with dictators including Russia, China and North Korea in a vote against democratic Ukraine, and cuts off support for them while at the same time trying to extort an unreasonable "deal" for a large amount of their natural resources with no guarantees they'll try to get back their land from Russia in return. 4. "Negotiates" behind Ukraine's back with Russia asking them for zero concessions, and then sets up Zelenskyy in an interview complete with the Russian state media in attendance in a way that seems straight out of the CCP's playbook on trying to de-power and twist the narrative on your opponents. Hang on, are we really surprised that the US is now an ally of Russia given their expansionist, dictator like behavior lately? They're starting to look just as bad as Trump's new buddies. 5. Europe needs to make a defense alliance's with one for all all for one (an article agreement for Europe can call it EATO European Atlantic Treaty organization its that easy !! Trump is trying to force Ukraine into a capitulation a total surrender ; masquerading as a" PEACE DEAL " its not a peace deal when only one side must give up everything and the other side gets everything it wants ; and it defiantly not a peace deal when one side must give a 3rd party 50% of its natural resources !! This is putting a gun to some head and telling them make the deal becouse either you brains or your signature will be on the document ! Zelenskyy says he is willing to come to an fare agreement but in exchange Ukraine needs solid security guarantees to secure Ukraines sovereignty and safety within its own borders and what has Trump offered of " the Trump security guarantees " he offered that American companies can start up in UKRAINE and that will make Putin (according to the Donald) think twice about attacking Ukraine in the further !! WOW its was that easy all a long to scare off Putin just send American companies into Ukraine!! LOL ..... That the guarantee!!!! thats what they are now telling Zelenskyy this is what Trump and Vance are trying to sell Zelenskyy this is what they saying is a solid security he can take back to the Ukrainians mothers ; thats what their sons ended up killed for when they so heroically defended their country form Putins aggression .. WOW thats fantastic then why did they (the US ) send all those weapons in the first place? US. should have just sent in Microsoft, Ford motor company , Heinz Tomato Ketchup , Coca Cola , Mac Donalds. together with some big boys like ConocoPhillips, Hecla Mining, Chevron and Goldman Sachs and last but not least The Walt Disney Company!! I hear Mickey Mouse big ears really scares Putin to death -- !!!! TRUMP AND VANCE ARE TRYING TO PLAY UKRAINIANS FOR FOOLS; AND STEAL UKRAINIANS NATURAL MINERALS, SO WHO IS BEING DISRESPECTFUL HERE !! FACT In Ukraine there was already American and European interests and massive companies in Ukraine before the war but Putin still invaded; so this is just Trump talking BS to get 50% of Ukraines natural resources for nothing and then turn around and say look what a master deal maker I am the art of the deal !!
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  6. MAGA  Agent (‘Krasnov’)  wants Russia to win because it proves Western weakness, that a strong society is achieved through the strong leadership of wannabe macho daddy Putin and Trump . But no, despite the absolute insanity of millennials, SJWs and the Left, dictatorships are weaker PRECISELY because of the centralized strong grip on decision making and lack of checks and balances. I used to back Trump cause of my red pill exploration and views, but this guy started praising Pinochet, (Putin ) then you know, there's something about dictators that is appealing to him. There is no chance that Russia would ever stick to any agreement negotiated in the name of peace. It ignored the Budapest Memorandum; the Helsinki Accords; t he Minsk Agreement; the principles of the UN, its obligations under the UN Charter, its obligations as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, International Law, the Geneva Convention, the Nuremburg Principles, contract law, .... But NO,  the west is NOT  weak even despite the absolute insanity of millennials, SJWs and the Left,  green policies ect ect THE WEST IS STILL STRONGER than all  dictatorships in the world and why stronger then Russia , Putins Russia is weaker than the west PRECISELY because of Putins centralized strong grip on decision making and lack of checks and balances. So the dream of Putin showing the world as an an alternative modal of political system will fail ! THE WEST AND THE US. IS OBLIGATED TO GIVE UKRAINE WEAPONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances agreement... Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for the grantee from the USA and and the United Kingdom that they will protect the Ukrainian nation from invasion... The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances is a political agreement signed in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994, providing security assurances by its signatories relating to Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The Memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers, the Russian Federation, the United States of America, and the United Kingdom. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents. The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine as well as those of Belarus and Kazakhstan. As a result, Ukraine gave up the world's third largest nuclear weapons stockpile between 1994 and 1996, of which Ukraine had physical though not operational control.[citation needed] The use of the weapons was dependent on Russian-controlled electronic Permissive Action Links and the Russian command and control system When Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in favor of the United States, the United States was very interested in this agreement and guaranteed Ukraine territorial integrity, as did Russia. But for some reason in 2014, the United States, despite the fact that nuclear weapons were destroyed in favor of the United States, did nothing to make this agreement to work. US. gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass.. As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , because Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !! This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity. Why should Ukraine sign another agreement with the United States? In which there are no guarantees again? Oh yes,11 years after the start of the war, in 2014 the United States began to provide scant assistance to Ukraine, and then they began to demand money from the victims of aggression for aid. At the same time, there was no pressure on the aggressor. Musk and Trump are always taking about all the poor ppl dying and thats why the war they say must end now .... But now they are saying if you don't give us 50% of your resources we will shut off your internet access to star-link , and they know full well that will disaster for the boys on the ground at the front lines as they will be slaughter in the 10000 of thousand within weeks fighting int he blind and not able to fly their drones !! WELL THE NEXT TIME YOU HEAR WE JUST WANT THE SENSELESS DEATH OF UKRAINIANS TO STOP ! you know is BS they don't care about Ukrainians death alt all they care that Russian needs a brake becouse they are losing the war !! Lets see it form this side ; See it from a different angle. If America was invaded by its neighboring country say Mexico or Canada or Russia that borders Alaska and Russia says for historical reasons (Alaska used to be Russian ) we are taking Alaska becouse it used to be part of Russia so we are taking back ; could you imagine what America would say? will Trump and Vance and the US just let Russia take Alaska in the ints. of world peace !!??? if the rest of the world said that Mexico can just walking in as an aggressor and can take back Texas to New Mexico and all land all the way to Nevada, will US agree to that in the ints. of world peace ?? Will America agree to not be part of any pace talks and be put on the side line and just let European Union or China deal with Putin over Alaska to make peace with Russia for taking Alaska .. becouse Russia has nuclear weapons ?.. The EU goes in and asked Putin for a pace talk to make a deal on how things will be regarding Putin getting Alaska back AND THE EU TELLS the US. you don't get to come to the "pace talks" I don't think Trump or the American people would agree to "make pace" so why would and should Ukraine agree to their country being carved up and given to Putin. Throughout this last year that's how American thought has been perceived in the West. This so called 'deal' is not a commodity to be bought or sold. Ukraine territory is a whopping 603,628 square kilometers (233,062 sq mi), Russia at one point occupied a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory and some of that land has now been librated so now we are down to 119,000 km2 What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway..... A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is 119,000 km2 In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg and Czech Republic all put together.. In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland and 80% of England all put together !! In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia all put together !! Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
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  7.  @yodieyuh  YOU ARE WRONG !!! Commitments to Ukraine in Budapest Memorandum are legally binding 1. Commitments to Ukraine in Budapest Memorandum are legally binding  The significance of the Budapest Memorandum was not in pledging some robust security commitments that Ukraine would not formally have in accordance with the UN Charter or with the 1975 OSCE Helsinki Final Act: not to use or threaten force against sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity, and to respect internationally recognized borders. Countries pledge all these things to each other just by virtue of being members of the UN and signatories to the Helsinki Act. What was significant about the Budapest Memorandum was the timing and the form: it recognized Ukraine’s legitimate security concerns and linked security assurances pledged in the memorandum to its nuclear disarmament and accession to the NPT. The Budapest Memorandum is a part of the broader non-proliferation regime; it’s registered at the UN and attached to Ukraine’s act of accession to the NPT. It was signed by Ukraine and the three nuclear weapon states, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia, depository states of the NPT. And one of those signatories blatantly and brazenly breached its commitments pledged in the Budapest Memorandum—and more importantly, it breached the UN Charter. Thus, all the arguments that the Budapest Memorandum is not legally binding are moot. The commitments in the Budapest Memorandum are legally binding by other means like the UN Charter, and Russia is part of the UN. 2. International law scholars such hve maintain that the Memorandum is an international treaty and therefore legally binding because it satisfies the criteria for one, as fixed by the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties (VCLT) and is "an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law. 3. In 2009, United States released a joint statement that the US is still legally bound to the memorandum's security assurances and would still respected their commitment after the expiration of the START Treaty. 4. Based on the ligla frame of The CSCE Final Act) US and all parties of the memorandum must respect the Ukraines independence and sovereignty in the existing borders based on the borders of 1991 in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act. According to the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would: 1. Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders. 2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Ukraine. 3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine to influence their politics. 4. Seek immediate action to provide assistance Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used". 5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine. 6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments We need to understand that EITHER the word/ deals and / or the grantees of the west are worth something or they are not !! And here we can clearly see what such guarantees with the west is worth, it has been 8 years now since Russia invaded Ukraine in the east of the country and annexed parts of Ukraine in Crimea AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED so now Russia is going all inn and taking everything THE CAN!!  That is the result of worthless grantees !! And here's something the WEST is clearly overlooking ; Taiwan , Israel and everyone else is also asking the question; CAN I TRUST THE WEST TO HOLD TO THEIR WORD AND STAND BY THE GUARANTEES THEY GIVE ! and not just Taiwan and Israel, is right now asking themselves those questions, but even small eastern European NATO member states that border Russia, will be asking themselves those questions as well !! IT'S ABOUT TRUST YOU LOSE TRUST YOU LOSE EVERYTHING!! And her is the real kicker ; Also Iran, North Korea and China will be seeing what is going on and soon they will be thinking the west is weak; And the will be thinking and saying things like, just look what the west did when Russia was calling out their bluff about red lines in Ukraine ... The time is now, we have our chance to stick it to them !!!! And then we will see China take Taiwan (so no more silicon-chips for you ) and then we will see Iran take Israel (middle east oil all gone and the middles east up in fire ) And when North Korea goes into South no more south Korea as north will take it over as well !! SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE ,TO TAKE A STAND NOW OR LATER !! ON A SIDE NOTE ; NO chance that Russia would ever stick to any agreement negotiated in the name of peace. It ignored 1. The Geneva Convention. 2. Charter of the United Nations 3. The Helsinki Accords 4. The Charter of the OSCE 5. Budapest Memorandum of 1994 6. Two Russia, Ukraine friendship treaties 7. International Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Racial Discrimination 8. European Court of Human Rights 9. The 1991 Belovezhskaya Pushcha accords ALSO LETS NOT FORGET Trump and YOU  is ignoring The Ukrainian children Russia has stolen The fact Russia's violation of the Budapest Memorandum That Russia's violation of the Minsk agreements Russia bringing North Korea into the war Russia bombing civilian cities nightly Russia is no longer a democracy That people in Russia have no freedoms Russians have been killed or imprisoned for speaking out against this war Russia's invasion of Georgia Russia's occupation of Moldova Russia's brutality in Chechnya Russia's war crimes in Syria
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  8. @ Maybe that above was to much for you to take in and understand in one go for your IQ  !!! So here is the short short version .. 1. International law scholars such have maintain that the Memorandum is an international treaty and therefore legally binding because it satisfies the criteria for one, as fixed by the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties (VCLT) and is "an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law. 3. In 2009, United States released a joint statement that the US is still legally bound to the memorandum's security assurances and would still respected their commitment after the expiration of the START Treaty. 3. It was signed by Ukraine and the three nuclear weapon states, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia, depository states of the NPT. And one of those signatories blatantly and brazenly breached its commitments pledged in the Budapest Memorandum—and more importantly, it breached the UN Charter. Thus, all the arguments that the Budapest Memorandum is not legally binding are moot. (in other words saying that the Budapest Memorandum is not legally binding is wrong because it satisfies the criteria for one, as fixed by the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties (VCLT) and is "an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law. ) Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders. NOTE ;Commitments to Ukraine in Budapest Memorandum are legally binding The significance of the Budapest Memorandum was not in pledging some robust security commitments that Ukraine would not formally have in accordance with the UN Charter or with the 1975 OSCE Helsinki Final Act: not to use or threaten force against sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity, and to respect internationally recognized borders. Countries pledge all these things to each other just by virtue of being members of the UN and signatories to the Helsinki Act
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  9. WHY TRUMPS AMERICA IS NOW HYPOCRITICAL !  1. I want to ask Americans : Did America ever pay back France for supporting us during the Revolutionary War ???? Nope !! Good example for the world ! 2. When Denmark sold the West Indies (FACT, purchase the US Virgin Islands from Denmark.) to the United States in 1917, the agreement included a clause that obliged the United States to refrain from making territorial claims to Greenland. It would therefore be a breach of a previous agreement if Trump makes good on his threats to use economic or military force to gain control of Greenland. 3. US. gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass.. As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , because Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !! This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity. 4. When America was attacked on September the 11 2001 and The World Trade Center was crumbling ever European Country helped America ; when you went into IRAQ and Afghanistan every European Country was with you sending their boys to day side by side with US troops !!! In fact every war that the US has been involved in since the 2nd world war be it Korea, Vietnam , etc etc EUROPEAN AND NATO trops have been there for you every step of the way !!! SO WHO IS BEING ENTAILED HERE !! .. ON A SIDE NOTE ; Following the September 11 attacks in 2001, several countries began military operations against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban during Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) in Afghanistan. UKRAINE WAS ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES Ukraine was with the US. for 11 years side by side back to back with US forces !!!! Ukraine allowed use of its airspace and airbases to the US and its allies, but only for cargo flights. Ukraine was a participant in the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan and deployed troops as part of NATO's ISAF mission to the country. It contributed medical personnel supporting Provincial Reconstruction Teams, and provided instructors for NATO's Training Mission. After ISAF's mission ended in 2014, Ukraine supported the follow-on Resolute Support Mission (2015-2021) that trained, advised and assisted Afghan security forces
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  10. When Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in favor of the United States, the United States was very interested in this agreement and guaranteed Ukraine territorial integrity, as did Russia. But for some reason in 2014, the United States, despite the fact that nuclear weapons were destroyed in favor of the United States, did nothing to make this agreement to work. US. gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass.. As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , because Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !! This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity. Why should Ukraine sign another agreement with the United States? In which there are no guarantees again? Oh yes,11 years after the start of the war, in 2014 the United States began to provide scant assistance to Ukraine, and then they began to demand money from the victims of aggression for aid. At the same time, there was no pressure on the aggressor. Musk and Trump are always taking about all the poor ppl dying and thats why the war they say must end now .... But now they are saying if you don't give us 50% of your resources we will shut off your internet access to star-link , and they know full well that will disaster for the boys on the ground at the front lines as they will be slaughter in the 10000 of thousand within weeks fighting int he blind and not able to fly their drones !! WELL THE NEXT TIME YOU HEAR WE JUST WANT THE SENSELESS DEATH OF UKRAINIANS TO STOP ! you know is BS they don't care about Ukrainians death alt all they care that Russian needs a brake becouse they are losing the war !! Lets see it form this side ; See it from a different angle. If America was invaded by its neighboring country say Mexico or Canada or Russia that borders Alaska and Russia says for historical reasons (Alaska used to be Russian ) we are taking Alaska becouse it used to be part of Russia so we are taking back ; could you imagine what America would say? will Trump and Vance and the US just let Russia take Alaska in the ints. of world peace !!??? if the rest of the world said that Mexico can just walking in as an aggressor and can take back Texas to New Mexico and all land all the way to Nevada, will US agree to that in the ints. of world peace ?? Will America agree to not be part of any pace talks and be put on the side line and just let European Union or China deal with Putin over Alaska to make peace with Russia for taking Alaska .. becouse Russia has nuclear weapons ?.. The EU goes in and asked Putin for a pace talk to make a deal on how things will be regarding Putin getting Alaska back AND THE EU TELLS the US. you don't get to come to the "pace talks" I don't think Trump or the American people would agree to "make pace" so why would and should Ukraine agree to their country being carved up and given to Putin. Throughout this last year that's how American thought has been perceived in the West. This so called 'deal' is not a commodity to be bought or sold. Ukraine territory is a whopping 603,628 square kilometers (233,062 sq mi), Russia at one point occupied a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory and some of that land has now been librated so now we are down to 119,000 km2 What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway..... A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is 119,000 km2 In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg and Czech Republic all put together.. In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland and 80% of England all put together !! In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia all put together !! Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
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