Comments by "bobby hans" (@user-oc7ll9sv5r) on "The Resurgence of Ukrainian Nationalism in Soviet Ukraine #ukraine" video.
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Russians need to study history and stop believe the Kremlins falsification of Ukrainian and Russian history and look at the timeline and facts..
UKRAINIAN NATION has been around since 898. In the 11th century, Kievan Rus' aka Ukraine was, geographically, the largest state in Europe Also Ukrainian Cossack had its own Rada (parliament/government) and was self-governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands..
First of all, Russia as a state never showed its ugly head to the world before 1721 when Peter proclaimed a new nation and a new capital for the new nation and he called it Russia...
Peter did this after the Treaty of Frederiksborg (1720), and the Russo-Swedish Treaty of Nystad (1721) and after the battle of Poltava...
On July 27 every year, Kyiv celebrates the anniversary of when Kyivan Rus was baptized by Prince Volodymyr the Great in 988.
In reaction, Vladimir Legoyda, head of the information department of the Russian Orthodox Church, criticized Ukraine’s attempts to call Prince Volodymyr the Great the “baptizer of Ukraine and a local leader.”
The medieval Principality of Moscow wouldn’t be founded until nearly 300 later. So if Kyiv was baptizes by Prince Volodymyr the Great in 988 and The medieval Principality of Moscow did not show its ugly head before 300 years later how can Moscow and Russia clam Ukraine and Kiev never existed hahahaha
Before Peter Moscow and Novgorod and another city's was principality's or city-states if you like and the most known was the Grand Duchy of Moscow From 1283–1547 Grand Principality of Moscow members cities of the Grand Principality was the city's of Novgorod, Moscow, rayzan, suzdal, vologoda.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Moscow1547–1721 Tsardom of Muscovy
In 1648 under the Tsardom of Muscovy the Ukrainian leader, Bohdan Khmelnytsky, offered to ally Ukraine with the Russian tsar, Aleksey I. Aleksey's acceptance of this offer, which was ratified in the Treaty of Pereyaslav in 1654 This was not Ukraine or Bohdan Khmelnytsky, offering it them self to Russia this was an agreement that both independent nations will go together and fight the Polish that was at the time invading Ukraine and Russia...and nothing more than that. In this agreement, the Cossacks also accepted to look upon the tsar as the protecting monarch and did pay some small money for the help and alliance in fighting the Polish.
But this was not giving up Ukrainian lands to the tsar nor did they give up their own Cossacks Rada (parliament) or the right to self-governance.. It was more a deal like Canada, Australia, Scotland, New Zealand ect ect ect has today with England they look up on English monarch as their monarch But still are an independent nation and lands with self-governance and their own parliaments and leaders of state..
Russian Empire 1721–1917 (when Peter proclaimed a new nation called Russia WHY proclaimed a new nation if this so-called nation already existed ??)
The Russian Empire (Pre-reform Russian orthography: Россійская Имперія, Modern Russian: Российская империя, translit: Rossiyskaya Imperiya) was a state that existed from 1721 until overthrown by the short-lived liberal February Revolution in 1917.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire
Also, Ukrainian Cossack had its own Rada (parliament/government) and was more or less self-governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands..
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great#Reign_.281762.E2.80.931796.29
The lands was after that under brutal occupation by Moskali scum until 1917 Bolshevik revolution until 1991
So based on these facts the Russia state has only had annexed control in Ukraine for 134 years
That is far less then what all Russians think In the 11th century, Kievan Rus' aka Ukraine was, geographically, the largest state in Europe, becoming known in the rest of Europe as Ruthenia (the Latin name for Rus'), especially for western principalities of The name "Ukraine", meaning "in-land" or "native-land" usually interpreted as "border-land", first appears in historical documents of 12th century and then on historical maps of the 16th century period. Greater Rus'" was used to apply to all the lands ruled by Kyiv, including those that were not just Slavic, but also Uralic in the north-east portions of the state.
So Ukraine and Kyiv is from the 11th century and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands and it remand occupied until 1917 when some of the lands (not all ) became free until 1921 and was once more become forcefully under brutal occupation by the Bolshevik Soviets aka Moscow scum ..
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine#Kievan_Rus.27
Ukraine has existed more or less as far back as Kyiv has been a city..
Ukraine, however, has from time to time, also maintained a semi-independent republic in Zaporozhia and a colony on the Russian frontier in Sloboda Ukraine.
The Battle of Konotop in 1648 took place during the period of Ukrainian history that is generally referred to as the Ruin.
This was the time after the death of Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky, during which many power struggles within the Cossack elite took place.
Arguably, these power struggles were instigated by The Grand Duchy of Moscow aka Tsardom of Moscow in an effort to undermine the authority of the Cossacks and self-governed of the Ukrainian nation and the Ukrainian Cossack state.
The 1648 Ukrainian Cossack (Kozak) rebellion or Khmelnytsky Uprising, which started an era known as the Ruin The Cossack state, the Cossack Hetmanate, usually viewed as modern Ukraine and this was way back in 1648 So how can you come up with Ukraine as a state first existed in 1918,__????
Together with a number of other battles between East Slavs, such as Battle of Orsha, the Konotop battle was with a few exceptions an abandoned topic in Russian Imperial and in Soviet historiography.
This attitude towards this event is explained by the fact that it dispelled some Russian propaganda positions about the unity of East Slavs, in particular, the ones about "eternal friendship of Russian and Ukrainian peoples" and about "natural desire of Ukrainians for union with Russia". But this is nothing more than Moscow spin doctors propaganda and historical fact twisted to the point of falsification of historical facts and truth,,
For all the skill and the bravery of the Cossacks — especially those defending Konotop — it still remains a bitter victory.
A victory that did not have any significant impact on the course of Ukrainian history, where the fratricidal war of the Ruin and personal ambitions of treacherous hetmans prevailed. As such, the Konotop battle remains a classic example of the battle and war Russia lost when trying too assert its dominance over Ukraine,, But in the end, Ukrainians lost the war and become under Moscow hegemony control and brutal domination. And lets not forget the brutal Russification process that Russia has done and is still trying to do, and even today Ukraine is still fighting the Moscow attempts to subdue Ukraine and it lands and people..
But the result is still that Ukraine fights the Russian hoards and its attempts of hegemony control of Ukraine.
Ukraine has never really been Russian.
Any more than Norway is Swedish or Danish just because Norway was forcefully taken into a union with Sweden and Denmark and for some time under brutal Swedish and Danish occupation and rule does not make Norway into Swedish or Danish lands ...
Norway like Ukraine was just a politically and military occupied nation for some time in its history that's all..
Norway has been from time to time under Swedish and Danish occupation and even some Norwegian cities was built by Swedish and Danish occupier's But that doesn't mean that
Sweden or Denmark owns Norway or the Norwegians are Swedish or even Danish ANY MORE THEN Russian owns Ukraine or that Ukrainians are Russians ....!!!
More Russian lies about Ukrainians the Historian Andrey Zubov says Banderites are an example of the great lie of the Soviet system about Ukraine SEE LINK UNDER
http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/07/23/historian-andrey-zubov-banderites-are-an-example-of-the-great-lie-of-the-soviet-system/
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