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  1. TO understand how and why Russians, in fact, are if Finno-Ugric descent and are NOT Slavic decent /ppl. like Ukrainians and Polish ppl are, we first have need to look at where the Finno-Ugric ppl. came from and what is a Finno-Ugric people and their background culture, ancestry, geneticists... The Russian DNA is evidence that they (Russians are NOT white Europeans). Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their DNA brothers the Finnish people and share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians Finno-Ugric tribes are indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Polish and Ukrainians !!! A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to today's Russia from Northern China about 12,000–14,000 years ago. Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europo-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today !!! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people .. The Hungarians like the Finish are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical clams that todays Finish and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call norther and eastern part of Russia .. The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia). German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory – that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East – as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’.. He found that Sami, Estonian, Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what to day is Finland and northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric have between 10 percent and a quarter mongoloid genes..  And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’ Vladimir Lenin may have had Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is potentially of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry.. failures by Russians to never real get out it backward ways I think you can assigned to being "too Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backwards, culturally un-European. When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as fare as todays scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white europeans it is a myth !!! Russians try too claim they are something they are not i!! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness , and unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexes by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde… (unlike the Real slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers ) The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white europeans. Testes of todays Russian males DNA have shows that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian are not European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of Finno-Ugric people) share those same chromosome structor with the Mongolians like Russians do !! ..And why is this you ask .. Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are.. Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask ? Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down claim to the Kievan Russia history , cultural and lands !! What conclusion can we take out of all this data ?? 1. Russians are NOT slavic it is a myth !! 2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians 3. Slavic people like polish and Ukrainians are not genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians.. 4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and except the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with slavic peoples heritage and therefor have no calm to slavic lands !!
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  2. PUTINS SAY UKRAINIANS ARE RUSSIANS THIS IS A LIE AT BEST A MYTH RUSSIA NEVER SHOWED ITS UGLY FACE BEFORE 1721 AFTER IT WAS PROCLAIMED BY PETTER AND THE CAPITAL OF THIS NEW NATION WAS ST. PETERSBURG.. Peter made "Russia " he did this after Treaty of Frederiksborg (1720), and the Russo-Swedish Treaty of Nystad (1721) and after the battle of Poltava...that is when Russia became Russia.. Another thing is what we today call Russians are not Russians as they are not Slavic like Ukrainians or Polish people read on to get the facts,,,,,, United States as a nation began with the signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776 - as well as a century and a half earlier, when a group of English Puritans landed on Plymouth Rock in 1620. All nations have a story to tell how they came into being. Some are rooted in ancient history while others, including numerous new nations that arose on the ruins of European colonial expansion, tie their emergence to more recent events. But whether mythical or historical, those origins are always connected to the land those nations inhabit. Not so Russia. It may be the only major nation to locate its origins in a foreign country. Every Russian school kid learns that his country’s history began on the banks of the Dnipro, in Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine. It is as if Americans had decided to trace their history back in the time of William the Conqueror in 1066 when he started England or the War of the Roses Englands fist civil-war . LOL This may seem like a minor thing, but it explains a great deal in the average Russian’s attitude toward Ukrainians. If Russia is a direct descendant of historic Kyivan Rus, how can another nation equally trace its origins to it - a nation, moreover, still occupying the same territory? Vladimir Putin recently declared that Ukrainians and Russians are “one folk” - meaning, of course, that Ukrainians are Russian. An extraordinary number of his countrymen share this belief. Imagine a prime minister of the United Kingdom insisting that Americans are not a nation but merely Brits with funny accents. But it is even more ridiculous than that: it’s as though the Italian president would lay claim on Spain - or one of Spain’s former colonies in Latin America - asserting that the Spanish language is a bastardized form of Italian. Russia’s attitude to Ukraine and things Ukrainian reflects deeply ingrained imperial complexes, revealing that, while the Soviet Empire collapsed in 1991, the Russian Empire still lingers in the minds of the citizens of the Russian Federation. And, one of the strangest things this past year has been the number people with Ukrainian surnames, many of them also born in Ukraine but now living in Russia, who spew hatred for their native land. What we know today to be Russians are nothing more than Finnish nomadic tribes that assimilated with the Mongolian horde in the 1200 They are not Slavic people like Ukrainians or Polish people even if they claim to be, and therefore have no real claim to Slavic lands or history .. But descendants from finish nomadic tribes that assimilated with the Mongolian. The Russians brainwashed just continue to brainwash everyone, when they assert that Kyivan Rus was the cradle of three sibling nations – Russians, Ukrainians and Belarus; and that because the Russians are “older brothers”, they have the right to the legacy of Kyivan Rus. To this day, Russian historians and officials make use of this woeful lie, which is repeated by Putin in his propaganda today . Here are the facts: At the time of the Kyivan Empire there was no mention of a Moscow nation in history Russia was not a part of history before 1721 when it was proclaimed be peter the grate It is well known that Moscow was created in 1277 as a subservient vassal region or ‘ulus’ to the Golden Horde, established by the Khan Mengu-Timur. By that time, Ukrainians city of Kiev and the Ukrainians peoples the Kyivan Rus had existed for more than 300 years. There are no indications of any connection of Ukrainians peoples the Kyivan Rus with the Finnish ethnic groups in the land of ‘Moksel’ what today we know as Russia or the later of the Moscow principality with the Principality of Kyivan Rus up until the XVI century. At the time when the Ukrainians peoples (Kyivan Rus ) had officially accepted Christianity, the Finn tribes in ‘Moksel’ today's Russia was still was living in a semi-primitive nomadic state. Russians are NOT slavic it is a myth and it is been debunk by DNA Anyone believing any thing else is totally brainwashed; Ukrainians ARE ETHNIC SLAVS like the Polish.. Their is No such thing as a ethnic slavic Russia they are nothing but decentness of Finish nomadic tribes living around the north part of the Moscow River that assimilated with the Mongolians in other words Todays Russian are a mix of Mongolian and Finns.... How can anyone speak of ‘an older brother’ when that ‘older brother’ did not first appear until centuries after Rus-Ukrainians? He has no moral right to call himself an ‘older brother’, nor to dictate how people are to live, nor to force his culture, language, and world views. see link How Russians stole the history of the Ukrainian russ slavs www.euromaidanpress.com/2014/05/14/how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus/ Russians er nothing more than confused Mongolians that must have some sort of dimwit Syndrome thinking they are from Ukrainian Kiev Russ and Slavic background.. The DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are that Russians are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants and NOT Slavic like Ukrainians and polish people ... The DNA evidence proves that Russians without a doubt are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants .. THE R1a explanation for dummy's Russians have is R1a-Z93 is the main Asian branch of R1a. Western and Northern European and also western Ukrainians have R1a -Z280 - R1a -Z284 falls under the root R1a1a1* (M417), So this proves Russians are Asian NOT Europeans.. Russians er nothing more then Mongolians with Down Syndrome thinking they are from Kiev Russ and Slavic background when the DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are they they are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendents and NOT Slavic... The Mongolian Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroup R1a-Z93 and is the main Asian branch of R1a. and its offshoots are very common and the dominant gen among Russian men. Studies have found the ethnic Russian frequency of R1a -Z93 is high as 62.7 percent, with an average of 46.7% and finish N1c of Russians in the "Russia-DNA Project" include N1c R1a1, R1a1a, R1a1a1g, and R1a1a1g2.
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  3. DNA AND ANTHROPOLOGICAL EVIDENCE PROOFS RUSSIANS ARE NOT SLAVIC BUT IN FACT FINNO-UGRIC JUST LIKE THEIR NEIGHBORING FINNISH !! A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to today's Russia from Northern China about 12,000–14,000 years ago. Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europe-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today!!! According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Hungarians are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people .. The Hungarians like the Finish are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well-documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical claims that today's Finish and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call northern and eastern part of Russia .. The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts, and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia). German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns were ‘Mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory – that both the Finns and Sami had originally come from the East – as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina of Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other’.. He found that Sami, Estonian, Hungarian were from the same family but so were a series of languages across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what today is Finland and the northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric has between 10 percent and quarter Mongoloid genes.. And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’ Vladimir Lenin may have had Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is the potential of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry.. failures by Russians to never really get out it backward ways I think you can be assigned to being "too Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backward, culturally un-European. When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as far as today's scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white Europeans it is a myth !!! Russians try to claim they are something they are NOT !! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness , and unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexed by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde… (unlike the Real Slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers ) The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white Europeans. Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian is NOT European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of Finno-Ugric people) share that same chromosome structure with the Mongolians as Russians do !! .. And why is this you ask .. Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are.. Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask? Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down the claim to the Kievan Russia history, cultural and lands !! What conclusion can we take out of all this data ?? 1. Russians are NOT Slavic it is a myth !! 2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians 3. Slavic people like the Polish and Ukrainians are NOT genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians.. 4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and accept the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with Slavic peoples heritage and therefore have no calm to Slavic lands, culture, and history !! 5. The Finno-Ugric/ Mongolians that are today's Moskli Russians have in fact appropriated another ppl.(Ukrainian/ Slavs ) culture, heritage, lands and history and today are like they have done for centuries lying about their own background and history to put down the claim to other ppl. heritage and lands.. 6. Ukraine has never really been Russian lands . Any more than Norway is Swedish or Danish (or Finland is Swedish or Russian ) just because Norway was forcefully taken into a union with Sweden and Denmark ( the same as Finland was with Sweden taken into a union ) and for some time under Swedish and Danish occupation and the rule , does NOT make Norway into Swedish or Danish lands ... Norway like Ukraine and Finland was just a politically and military occupied nation for some time in its history that's all.. Norway has been from time to time under Swedish and Danish occupation and even some Norwegian cities was built by Swedish and Danish occupier's.... But that doesn't mean that Sweden or Denmark owns Norway or that Norwegians are Swedish or Danish ANY MORE THEN Russia owns Ukraine and Ukrainians are Russians or Sweden owns Finland and the Finnish ppl- are Swedish ....!!!
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  4. More evidence that Russians are linked top Finno-Ugric / Mongolians and not Slavic people like Ukrainians and Polish .. 1. Lets look at the city of Perm its Location is in Krai Russia Perm is a city and the administrative centerof Perm Krai, Russia, located on the banks of the Kama River near the Ural Mountains. The name Perm is of Finno-Ugric etymology, likely of Uralic origin (Komi-Permyak: Перем, Perem; Komi: Перым, Perym). Komi is a member of the Permic group of Finno-Ugric languages, which is also named for Perm. In Finnish and Vepsian perämaa means "far-away land"; similarly, in Hungarian perem means "edge" or "verge". The geologic period of the Permian takes its name from the toponym. Perm is located in the old Perman area, which was originally inhabited by Finno-Ugric peoples. Perm was first mentioned as the village of Yagoshikha (Ягошиха) in 1647; however, the history of the modern city of Perm starts with the development of the Ural region by Tsar Peter the Great. Vasily Tatishchev, appointed by the Tsar as a chief manager of Ural factories, founded Perm together with another major center of the Ural region, Yekaterinburg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perm More DNA evidence 2. Mongolian man talking about Finnish DNA and Mongolian DNA Finnish DNA and Finland (Suomi) Finnish DNA and Finland (Suomi), Suomi and Saami, Uralic Language, Finno Ugric Group of Languages, Haplogroups in Finland: N1C -59%, I1A - 28%, R1A - 5%, R1B - 3.5%. Finnish - 80% Northeastern Karelian and 10% Siberian? N1C is not dispersed, but concentrated in Finland and Baltic. 1/3 Finnish words (lexicon) are authentic Finnish words, and unrelated to other languages. Unique. Origin of Finns is mysterious. Connection to Uralic peoples? My Nganasan DNA connection? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l6O3FHAuLg 3 This essay was first published in a collection by Yaroslav Dashkevych, PhD. in “Learn to Speak the Truth with Non-Lying Lips” – K:Tempora, 2011, 828pp. Yaroslav Dashkevych was a prominent Ukrainian historian, who during his long academic career wrote more than 950 works on Ukrainian historiography, source studies and special historical disciplines, Eastern Studies, Ukrainian-Armenian, Ukrainian-Turkish, and Ukrainian-Jewish relations.) In creating their nation, Ukrainians need to examine and analyze their own history, based on truth, verified facts and historical events. For centuries under the rule of conquerors, Ukrainians were basically deprived of the opportunity to influence the formation of national awareness and the development of their history http://www.timpul.md/en/articol/How-Moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-Kyivan-Rus--62339.html KARL MARX ....... "Russia, which has nothing to do with Kivan Russ, now called Russia, received, or rather stole its current name, at best in the 18th century, nevertheless - brazenly claims to the historical legacy of Kievan Russ, that was created eight hundred years earlier. Moscow history is the history of the Horde, sewn to the history of Russia with white threads and completely falsified. ”(Karl Marx, Exposing the Diplomatic History of the 18th Century) ..  HER YOU SAY MARX SAYS MOSCVOY (today's Russia) IS THE DECEDENTS OF MONGOLIANS AND THAT KYIV (today Ukraine ) IS THE DESCENDANTS  OF  SLAVIC KYIV RUSS.    " The bloody mire of Mongolian slavery, not the rude glory of the Norman epoch, forms the cradle of Muscovy, and modern Russia is but a metamorphosis of Muscovy.. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/32370/32370-h/32370-h.htm
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  5. PART 1 OF 2  RUSSIANS ARE NOT SLAVIC! TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE PPL. PIC. (FAMOUS RUSSIANS ) DO THEY REALLY LOOK LIKE THEY ARE SLAVIC EUROPEANS TO YOU ?? The DNA study of today's so-called Russians shows that the historical facts are that Russians are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants and NOT Slavic like Ukrainians and Polish people ... According to a 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Finnish, Hungarians and other Finno-Ugric tribes are indistinct (indistinct= meaning NO DNA connection at ALL) of neighboring Slavic ppl. like the Polish, Ukrainians and of other neighboring ppl. like the Scandinavians, Norwegians, Swedes and of the ppl. of the Baltics like the Lithuanians and Latvians !!! (A recent study has found that haplogroup N and NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants spread to todays northern part of Russia around the todays Murmansk and the area of The Moscow river basin and Finland / Estonia from Northern China about 12,000–14,000 years ago. The Y-DNA Haplogroup N and NO confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical claims that todays Finnish, Estonians , Sami and Hungarians come from Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call northern and eastern part of Russia ..) Russians are no more Slavic then the Finnish are ethnic Scandinavian even if Finland is in geographically in Scandinavia, they (the Finnish ppl.) are NOT ethnic Scandinavians like the Norwegians, Danish and Swedish people... in-fact they are Finno-Ugric and related ethnically to Hungarians and Estonians, Sami and other Finno-Ugric tribes in North East Eurasia where they originally migrated from back in the day and mostly settled down where todays Finland, Estonia and Russia is today .. Take a look at this map and you will see even today the Finno-Ugric tribes are 90% in what today is Russia .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugric_peoples#/media/File:Fenno-Ugrian_people.png Russians er nothing more than confused descendants of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians, back in the day… when the golden horde controlled all of what is today's Russian lands …Russians must have some sort of dimwit Syndrome thinking they are from Ukrainian Kiev Russ and Slavic background.. The DNA study of today's so-called Russians shows that the historical facts are that Russians are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants and NOT Slavic like Ukrainians and Polish people ... The DNA evidence proves that Russians without a doubt are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants .. Mongolian blood in Russians see link https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=10&v=VmiYqpT0zrE THE R1a explanation for dummy's Russians have is R1a-Z93 and is the main Asian branch of R1a. Western and Northern European and also western Ukrainians have R1a -Z284 falls under the root R1a1a1* (M417), and Russians have the R1a1q-M458 ( Finno Ugric ) and the Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroup R1a-Z93 (Mongolian )…and N1c haplogroup N Finno-Ugric DNA So this proves Russians are of Asian and Finno Ugric bold NOT Western Europeans.. A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread to todays Russia from Northern China about 12,000–14,000 years ago. FOR PART 2 OF 2 SEE UNDER
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  6. PART 2 OF 2  Take a look at the facts about The exonym "Hungarian" comes from "Ugor".in 895 The Magyars/Hungarians belonged to the Onogur tribal alliance, and it is possible that they became its ethnic majority The Hungarian people refer to themselves by the demonym "Magyar" rather than "Hungarian". "Magyar" is Finno-Ugric from the Old Hungarian "mogyër". "Magyar" possibly derived from the name of the most prominent Hungarian tribe, the "Megyer". The tribal name "Megyer" became "Magyar" in reference to the Hungarian people as a whole Anthropologically, the type of Magyars of the conquest phase shows similarity to that of the Andronovo people, in particular of the Sarmatian groups around the southern Urals. The Turanid (South-Siberian) and the Uralid types from the Europo-Mongoloids were dominant among the conquering Hungarians .. And this is the same as you will find in Russians finish today!!! (NOTE : 2008 study, the mitochondrial lines of the Finno-Ugric ppl like Hungarians and Finnish ppl. are clearly indistinct from that of neighboring Slavs like Ukrainians and Polish people) .. The Hungarians like the Finnish ppl. are of the same as Magyars what we today call Hungarian. (Magyar" is Finno-Ugric ) Four 10th century skeletons from well-documented cemeteries in Hungary of ancient Magyar individuals were sampled. Two of the four males belonged to Y-DNA Haplogroup N confirming their Finno-Ugric origin that proves and supports the historical claims that todays Finish are Finno-Ugric and comes from the Turanid (South-Siberian) and lived around what we today call northern and eastern part of Russia .. The Finno-Ugric peoples (like the Finnish ppl). ar any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric group Karelians, Finns, Udmurts, and Komis. The traditional area of the indigenous Sami people is in Northern Finland and the Kola Peninsula in Northwest Russia and is known as Sápmi. Some other Finno-Ugric peoples have autonomous republics in Russia: Karelians (Republic of Karelia), Komi (Komi Republic), Udmurts (Udmurt Republic), Mari (Mari El Republic), and Mordvins (Moksha and Erzya; Republic of Mordovia). German anthropologist J. F. Blumenbach compared (Finno-Ugric ppl.) like the Finnish, Sami (the Arctic reindeer herders) and Mongolian skulls and concluded that the Finns (Finno-Ugric ppl.) were ‘mongoloid’ and not ‘white’ like the Swedes or Finland’s Swedish-speaking aristocracy. This was widely accepted and led to the Turanian theory – that both the Finno-Ugric Finns and the Finno-Ugric Sami had originally come from the East – as well as strengthening the view, according to Finland-Swede sociologist Nina af Enehjelm, that Finns were somehow ‘other then there rest of ppl. living in Scandinavia ’.. He found that Finno-Ugric ppl. the Sami, Estonian, Hungarian and Finnish ppl. were from the same family but so were a series of across Siberia such as Komi and Mari. And even languages like Mongolian seemed to have a similar grammatical structure. This led to the ‘Migration Theory,’ the Finno-Ugric peoples arrived in Europe from Mongolia around three thousand years ago and finally got to what today is Finland and northern part of Russia. The more recent discovery of genetics has added further evidence to the ‘Mongol’ claim. Geneticist Richard Kittles found in 1998 that Finns have ‘Dual Origins’ between Finno-Ugric and Mongoloid as measured by their ‘Y Chromosome Haplotype Variation.’ Other geneticists estimated that Finno-Ugric has between 10 percent and quarter mongoloid genes.. And in 2003, Slovenian geneticist Andrej Marusic observed that the Finnish and Russian propensity to alcoholism could be explained by the Mongolian ADH22 gene ‘which is common in Eastern peoples but almost unheard of Europe.’ Vladimir Lenin had Finno-Ugric Mordvin ancestry. There is a belief that President Vladimir Putin of Russia is the of Finno-Ugric Vepsian ancestry.. Failures by Russians to never really get out it backward ways I think you can be assigned to being "to Finish Urgic Mogoliish “ - meaning, primitive, backward, culturally un-European. When Russians attempt to define their own race and assert that they are European it just comes over as false, and as far as today's scientific research goes, we can now conclude with certainty, Russian are not white Europeans it is a myth , Russians are and have always been Finno-Ugric that assimilated with Mongolians back in the day Russians are Eurasians and NOT European like Polish and Ukrainian Slavic ppl are !! !!! Russians try to claim they are something they are not! Russians are NOT Western European (Russians have claim to be for a long time, it goes back to Peter the great wish to be a European nation ) but it is nothing but a myth a type of fake nationalistic, myopic, backwardness ,as Russians today are unaccepting of objective truth that Russians are in-fact nothing more than dissidents of Finno-Ugric tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back when the land of Moskal ( northern Russia ) was annexed by the Mongolians and made it a part of the Golden Horde… (unlike the Real Slavic people the Ukrainians and polish people that never assimilated with Mongolian occupiers ) The Russian DNA is evidence that they are not white Europeans. Testes of today's Russian males DNA have shown that they, like their ethnic brothers the Finnish people, share most of their chromosomes with the Chinese, and Mongolians (the Mongolian chromosomes ) just like the Finnish people do as well !! This has proven without a doubt that Russian are NOT European as they share their DNA with the Mongolians and the study also shows that no other Europeans (with the exception of other Finno-Ugric people) share that same chromosome structure with the Mongolians as Russians do !! .. And why is this you ask .. Answer… because Russians are Finno-Ugric people that assimilated with Mongolians and NOT white Europeans like Slavic or Germanic people are.. Why is it so vitally important to find this proof you ask ? Answer… It shows a systematic falsification by Russia that started with Peter to falsify its history and links to Europe so Moscow can put down the claim to the Kievan Russia history, cultural and lands !! What conclusion can we take out of all this data ?? 1. Russians are NOT Slavic it is a myth !! 2. Russians are closer genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians 3. Slavic people like polish and Ukrainians are not genetically linked to Finno-Ugric and Mongolians.. 4. Russians need to reevaluate their own history and except the facts that they are nothing genetically to do with Slavic peoples heritage and therefore have no calm to Slavic lands !! 5. Russians need reevaluate their own history when it comes to climes of links and heritage to the KyivvRus and Vladimir and the history that belongs to the Slavic ppl. we know today as Ukrainians.
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  7. The name Kievan Rus comes from the word Russ in Old Norwegian and in old Finnish means rowing as the vikings wold row their longships down the rivers and fjords the Finnish tribes call the vikings Russ that is where the name comes from even today in the Finnish language they call Sweden ( the country ) Ruotsi meaning the land of the Russ in other worlds the land of the vikings aka Scandinavians..as back in the 800s there was only Scandinavian with different small viking kingdoms..Not Norway or Sweden as we know it today AS ANYONE WITH A BRAIN CAN SEE NOT ONE DROP OF RUSSIAN BLOOD NO SUCH THING AS A RUSSIAN CONNECTION TO YAROSLAV THE WISE SO HOW CAN MOSCOW CLAIM ANYTHING ?? Let's look at YAROSLAV THE WISE family history Yaroslav the Wise mother's name was ROGNEDA,,(Norwegian Viking name Ragnhild ) ROGNEDA (962–1002) is the Slavic name for Ragnhild, Rogneda Ingeborg Yngling Princess of Norway (Norwegian) Birth: 948 Oslo, Norway Death: 976 (28) ROGNEDA of Polatsk was the daughter of RAGNVALD a Viking who came from Scandinavia (Norway) and established himself at Polatsk in the mid-10th century. ROGNEDA belonged to the Ynglings Royal family of Norway. see link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogneda_of_Polotsk ROGNEDA Married VLADIMIR THE GREAT one of their sons was YAROSLAV THE WISE. ROGNEDA and VLADIMIR THE GREAT had several children. The four sons were Yaroslav the Wise, Vsevolod, Mstislav of Chernigov, and Izyaslav of Polotsk. VLADIMIR THE GREAT father (Yaroslav the Wise great grandfather) was IGOR OF KIEV ( Norwegian name Ingvar the Rus) Prince of the Rus' See link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_of_Kiev Who was YAROSLAV THE WISE great grandfather it was IGOR OF KIEV ... IGOR OF KIEV...(Ingvar the Rus) was a Varangian (Viking) ruler of Kievan Rus' Reign 914–945 Coronation 914 IGOR OF KIEV Father name was RURIK (Viking) (Religion Norse Pagan) IGOR OF KIEV Mother was Olga ( Saint Olga) (Viking ) (Religion Christian ) Saint Olga Dynasty Rurik Dynasty Religion Norse Pagan IGOR OF KIEV Full name was Ingvar Roriksen (a Viking ) Igor ( Igor', Ukrainian ) is a given name derived from the Scandinavian name Ingvar that was brought to ancient Kievan Rus' by the Vikings. Igor, son of Rurik, conquered Kiev. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaroslav_the_Wise The name Kievan Rus comes from the word Russ in Old Norwegian and in old Finnish means rowing as the Vikings would row their longships down the rivers and fjords the Finnish tribes call the Vikings Russ that is where the name comes from even today in the Finnish language they call Sweden ( the country ) Ruotsi meaning the land of the Russ in other worlds the land of the Vikings aka Scandinavians..as back in the 800s there was only Scandinavian with different small Viking kingdoms..Not Norway or Sweden as we know it today ON A SIDE NOTE Vladimir the Great (aka (Saint) Vladimir of Kiev ) the father of Yaroslav the Wise.. WHO WAS HE ...?? see under .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_the_Great Well Vladimir the Great, father was prince Sviatoslav of the Rurik dynasty was also a Viking, and how do we know this .. . After the death of Prince Sviatoslav father in 972 (prince Sviatoslav ), who was then just Sviatoslav prince of Novgorod, was forced to flee to his other relatives in Scandinavia he did this in 976 after his brother Yaropolk had murdered his other brother Oleg and conquered Kiev Rus'. When Vladimir the Great Prince was In Scandinavia ( then only known as Sviatoslav prince of Novgorod ), he with the help from his Norwegian Viking relatives (NOTICE HIS NORWEGIAN RELATIVES ) Ladejarl Håkon Sigurdsson, ruler of Norway, (NOTICE RULER OF NORWAY ) assembled a Varangian (Viking ) army and together with Håkon Sigurdsson, Sviatoslav prince of Novgorod (aka Vladimir the Great father and Vladimir the wise grandfather ) reconquered Novgorod from his brother Yaropolk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haakon_Sigurdsson By 980, Sviatoslav (aka Vladimir the Great father and Vladimir the wise grandfather) had consolidated the Kievan realm from modern-day Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine to the Baltic Sea and had solidified the frontiers against incursions of Bulgarian, Baltic tribes and Eastern nomads. Sviatoslav son named Vladimir the Great, (originally a follower of old northern Slavic/ Viking paganism), converted to Christianity in 988 and Christianized the Kievan Rus and had a son and he named him Yaroslav the Wise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_the_Great So like I have said as anyone can see, not one drop of Russian blood NO such thing as a Russian connection to YAROSLAV THE WISE so how can MOSCOW CLAIM ANYTHING ?? Also let's not forget that MOSCOW DID NOT shoe it is ugly head in history before AFTER 1147 and KYIV was founded back in the late 800s so there is a 350 years time difference in the TIMELINE between CITY AND NATIONS!..
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  8. PRINCE VOLODYMYR WAS NEVER RUSSIAN !!! IT IS A MYTH RUSSIA NEVER SHOWED ITS UGLY FACE BEFORE 1721 AFTER IT WAS PROCLAIMED BY PETTER AND THE CAPITAL OF THIS NEW NATION WAS ST. PETERSBURG.. Peter did this after Treaty of Frederiksborg (1720), and the Russo-Swedish Treaty of Nystad (1721) and after the battle of Poltava...That is when Russia became Russia.. Another thing is what we today call Russians are not Russians as they are not Slavic like Ukrainians or Polish people read on to get the facts,,,,,, LET ME GO MORE INTO THE FACTS But first lets take a look at USA ..... The United States as a nation began with the signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776 - as well as a century and a half earlier, when a group of English Puritans landed on Plymouth Rock in 1620. All nations have a story to tell how they came into being. Some are rooted in ancient history while others, including numerous new nations that arose on the ruins of European colonial expansion, tie their emergence to more recent events. But whether mythical or historical, those origins are always connected to the land those nations inhabit. Not so Russia. It may be the only major nation to locate its origins in a foreign country. Every Russian school kid learns that his country’s history began on the banks of the Dnipro, in Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine. It is as if Americans had decided to trace their history back in the time of William the Conqueror in 1066, War of the Roses or Edward The Confessor in English history ha ha ha ha .... This may seem like a minor thing, but it explains a great deal in the average Russian’s attitude toward Ukrainians. If Russia is a direct descendant of historic Kyivan Rus, how can another nation equally trace its origins to it - a nation, moreover, still occupying the same territory? Vladimir Putin recently declared that Ukrainians and Russians are “one folk” - meaning, of course, that Ukrainians are Russian. An extraordinary number of his countrymen share this belief. Imagine a prime minister of the United Kingdom insisting that Americans are not a nation but merely Brits with funny accents. But it is even more ridiculous than that: it’s as though the Italian president would lay claim on Spain - or one of Spain’s former colonies in Latin America - asserting that the Spanish language is a bastardized form of Italian. Russia’s attitude to Ukraine and things Ukrainian reflects deeply ingrained imperial complexes, revealing that, while the Soviet Empire collapsed in 1991, the Russian Empire still lingers in the minds of the citizens of the Russian Federation. And, one of the strangest things this past year has been the number people with Ukrainian surnames, many of them also born in Ukraine but now living in Russia, who spew hatred for their native land. What we know today to be Russians are nothing more than Finnish nomadic tribes that assimilated with the Mongolian horde in the 1200 They are not Slavic people like Ukrainians or Polish people even if they claim to be, and therefore have no real claim to Slavic lands or history .. But descendants from finish nomadic tribes that assimilated with the Mongolian. The Russians brainwashed just continue to brainwash everyone, when they assert that Kyivan Rus was the cradle of three sibling nations – Russians, Ukrainians and Belarus; and that because the Russians are “older brothers”, they have the right to the legacy of Kyivan Rus. To this day, Russian historians and officials make use of this woeful lie, which is repeated by Putin in his propaganda today . Here are the facts: At the time of the Kyivan Empire there was no mention of a Moscow nation in history Russia was not a part of history before 1721 when it was proclaimed be peter the grate It is well known that Moscow was created in 1277 as a subservient vassal region or ‘ulus’ to the Golden Horde, established by the Khan Mengu-Timur. By that time, Ukrainians city of Kiev and the Ukrainians peoples the Kyivan Rus had existed for more than 300 years. There are no indications of any connection of Ukrainians peoples the Kyivan Rus with the Finnish ethnic groups in the land of ‘Moksel’ what today we know as Russia or the later of the Moscow principality with the Principality of Kyivan Rus up until the XVI century. At the time when the Ukrainians peoples (Kyivan Rus ) had officially accepted Christianity, the Finn tribes in ‘Moksel’ today's Russia was still was living in a semi-primitive nomadic state. How can anyone speak of ‘an older brother’ when that ‘older brother’ did not first appear until centuries after Rus-Ukrainians? He has no moral right to call himself an ‘older brother’, nor to dictate how people are to live, nor to force his culture, language, and world views. www.euromaidanpress.com/2014/05/14/how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus/ Russians er nothing more then confused Mongolians that must have some sort of dimwit Syndrome thinking they are from Ukrainian Kiev Russ and Slavic background.. The DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are that Russians are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants and NOT Slavic like Ukrainians and polish people ... The DNA evidence proves that Russians with out a doubt are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendants .. Mongolian blood in Russians see link https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=10&v=VmiYqpT0zrE THE R1a explanation for dummy's Russians have is R1a-Z93 and is the main Asian branch of R1a. R1a1a1b2 (R-Z93) (Asia) This large subclade appears to encompass most of the R1a1a found in Asia R-Z93* or R1a1a1b2* (R1a1a2* in Underhill (2014)) is most common (>30%) in the South Siberian Altai region of Russia, cropping up in Kyrgyzstan (6%) and in all Iranian populations (8%) Western and Northern European and also western Ukrainians have R1a -Z284 falls under the root R1a1a1* (M417), So this proves Russians are Asian NOT Europeans.. Russians er nothing more then Mongolians with Down Syndrome thinking they are from Kiev Russ and Slavic background when the DNA study of today's so called Russians shows that the historical facts are they they are Mongoloid / Finno-Ugric descendents and NOT Slavic... The Mongolian Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroup N -Z93 and is the main Asian and its offshoots are very common and the dominant gen among Russian men. Studies have found the ethnic Russian frequency of haplogroup N1c to be high with an average of 46.7% of Russians in the "Russia-DNA Project" , The characteristic genetic marker of peoples with Uralic background is haplogroup N1c-Tat (Y-DNA). Samoyedic peoples mainly have more N1b-P43 than N1c. Haplogroup N originated in the northern part of China in 20,000–25,000 years BP and spread to north Eurasia, through Siberia to Northern Europe. Subgroup N1c1 is frequently seen in non-Samoyedic peoples, N1c2 in Samoyedic peoples. In addition, haplogroup Z (mtDNA), found with low frequency in Saami, Finns, and Siberians, is related to the migration of people speaking Uralic languages will also find a small percent of R1a1a1g2. 1. RuSSian myth about Ukraine and Crimea www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMgjYetl4pQ 2. Mongols founded Russia or Muscovy (1328) www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ChVHBLMgCU A link to a world map proving Russians are Asian not slavic https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Meyers_b11_s0476a.jpg
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  9. LET ME GO MORE INTO THE ISSUE AND FACTS .. The Vikings, the Rus’ & Kiev — the Entangled History of Russia and Ukraine Stepping away for a moment from the unfolding current events in the Ukraine and Russia, it might be worthwhile to look at the history of the region, which was shaped by the arrival of merchant adventurers rowing long ships called Vikings by the Scandinavians and called Rus by the Finish tribs .Take a look at the www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians One of the most well know links to this Viking / Ukrainian Kyiv Russ link is Elisiv of Kiev. Elisaveta Yaroslavna of Kiev (Norwegian: Ellisif or Elisiv), (1025 – c. 1067), was a Princess of Kiev and Queen Consort of King Harald III of Norway Elisaveta was the daughter of the Grand Prince of Kievan Rus, Yaroslav the Wise and his consort Princess Ingegerd Olofsdotter of Sweden, the daughter of Swedish King Olof Skötkonung and Estrid of the Obotrites . Elisaveta was the sister of Anastasia of Kiev who married the future Andrew I of Hungary, Anne of Kiev who married Henry I of France and possibly of Agatha, wife of Edward the Exile Her brothers included Vladimir of Novgorod, Iziaslav I of Kiev, Sviatoslav II of Kiev , Vsevolod I, Prince of Kiev and Igor Yaroslavich. During the winter of 1043–44, Elisaveta was married to Prince Harald Sigurdsson of Norway. Harald had left Norway in 1030 after having participated in the Battle of Stiklestad on the side of his half-brother, King Olav II of Norway. Harald had since then served under the protection of her father as well as that of the Byzantine monarch. Elisaveta was the addressee of Harald's surviving poems where he lamented her suggested lack of affection towards him (no implications about their actual affections can be derived, as this might well be a poetic cliche). In 1045, she followed Harald to Norway, where he became co-king with his nephew, King Magnus the Good. In Norway, Elisaveta was known as Queen Elisiv... In 1066, Harald invaded England, where he was killed in the Battle of Stamford Bridge. Tradition says that Elisiv and her daughters followed Harald to England, where Maria died, as it was said, at the news of her father's death. Afterward Elisiv and her second daughter, Ingegerd, returned to Norway with the Norwegian fleet. Elisiv was to have stayed at the Orkney Islands during this trip. Elisaveta Yaroslavna was part of the Rurik dynasty (by birth) Her Father was Yaroslav I of Kiev Mother Princess Ingegerd Olofsdotter in what today is parts of Sweden and Norway.. Yaroslav relied on the Scandinavian alliance and attempted to weaken the Byzantine influence on Kiev In 1019, Yaroslav married Ingegerd Olofsdotter, a Scandinavian Princess .. In the Saint Sophia's Cathedral in Kiev houses a fresco representing the whole family: Yaroslav, Irene (as Ingegerd was known in Rus), their four daughters and six sons. Yaroslav had three of his daughters married to foreign princes who lived in exile at his court: Elisaveta Yaroslavna of Kiev (Norwegian: Ellisif or Elisiv), (1025 – c. 1067), was a Princess of Kiev and Queen Consort of King Harald III of Norway Elisaveta was the related to the Grand Prince of Veliky Novgorod and Kievan Rus, Yaroslav the Wise Elisaveta was the sister of Anastasia of Kiev who married the future Andrew I of Hungary..Her brothers included Vladimir of Novgorod, Iziaslav I of Kiev, Sviatoslav II of Kiev , Vsevolod I, Prince of Kiev and Igor Yaroslavich. During the winter of 1043–44, Elisaveta was married to Prince Harald Sigurdsson of Norway. ( In Norway, Elisaveta was known as Queen Elisiv.) See link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisiv_of_Kiev As with so much of history known as the Viking age, it began with the Vikings in period A.D. 793–1066 historians tend to agree with the Primary Chronicle that these Scandinavians founded Kievan Rus' in the 880s and gave their name to the land. Many Russian scholars are opposed to this theory of Germanic influence on the Rus' (people) and have suggested alternative scenarios for this part of Eastern European history.. This is because of the falsification of history done by Catherine the great with something called the Catherine chronicles In 1792, 'Catherine's falsification of History' saw the light of day. and that is the version Russia likes to present to its self and the world.. See link how Russia hijacked Ukrainian history www.euromaidanpress.com/2014/05/14/how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus/
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  10. THE KIAVAN RUSS AND VIKINGS The Norse Vikings, from the region that we now call Scandinavia , rowed their long ships deep into the rivers of Central and Eastern Europe; pushing up the Volga, the Dnieper, the Volkhov and the Neva rivers, among others. Using rivers and lakes connected to the Volga, these Vikings traded as far as Iran. On a separate route on the Dnieper River, the Vikings traveled as far as Greece. Viking heritage in Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CecTfX28LNQ&t=104s Norwegian Vikings founded Kiev SO IT WAS NOT THE RUSSIANS LIKE PUTIN SAYS !!.... Kiev's Viking Heritage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvE9UPu-3kI Grand Prince Yaroslav the Wise, whose wife Ingegerd was from Swedish / Norwegian royalty The first half of 1031 the Viking King Harald and his men were welcomed by Grand Prince Yaroslav the Wise, whose wife Ingegerd was a distant relative of King Harald of Norway. They were called the Varangians by the Greeks and Eastern Slavs. The Finns called them the Rus‘ which meant “men who row.” In 862 the Viking chieftain Rurik made Kiev, a into a viking trading port and integrated with Slavic tribes this village on the Dnieper became his new capital. The kindom he established became known as the “land of the Rus’.” (Later, 19th century historians would dub the kingdom the “Kievan Rus.”) The Ruriks Kievan Rus kingdom lasted for close to 400 years before the invasion of the Mongul hordes. Russia stole the name Rus from the real Rus’ aka Ukrainians Kiev Rus as the Kievan Rus kingdom was literally born in Kiev and started by a viking called Rurk . Now, as the Russian Army is poised on the borders of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Army is taking orders from the capitol in Kiev, both sides continue to play their roles in their long and history, which began, more or less with the Viking Rurik. But only one nation is the true ancestor of the Kievan Rus kingdom and that is TO DAYS Ukrainians. Russians need to study history and stop believe the falsification of Ukrainian and Russian history and look at the time line and facts.. UKRAINIAN NATION has been around since 898. In the 11th century, Kievan Rus' aka Ukraine was, geographically, the largest state in Europe Also Ukrainian Cossack had its own Rada (parliament / government) and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands.. First of all Russia as a state never showed its ugly head to the world before 1721 when Peter proclaimed a new nation and a new capital for the new nation and he called it Russia... Peter did this after Treaty of Frederiksborg (1720), and the Russo-Swedish Treaty of Nystad (1721) and after the battle of Poltava... On July 27 every year Kyiv celebrates the anniversary of when Kyivan Rus was baptized by Prince Volodymyr the Great in 988. In reaction, Vladimir Legoyda, head of the information department of the Russian Orthodox Church, criticized Ukraine’s attempts to call Prince Volodymyr the Great the “baptizer of Ukraine and a local leader.” The medieval Principality of Moscow wouldn’t be founded until nearly 300 later. So if Kyiv was baptizes by Prince Volodymyr the Great in 988 and The medieval Principality of Moscow did not show its ugly head before 300 years later how can Moscow and Russia clam Ukraine and Kiev never existed hahahaha Before Peter Moscow and Novgorod and other city's was principality's or city sates if you like and the most known was the Grand Duchy of Moscow From 1283–1547 Grand Principality of Moscow members citys of the Grand Principality was the citys of Novgorod, Moscow,rayzan ,suzdal ,vologoda.. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Moscow 1547–1721 Tsardom of Muscovy In 1648 under the Tsardom of Muscovy the Ukrainian leader, Bohdan Khmelnytsky, offered to ally Ukraine with the Russian tsar, Aleksey I. Aleksey's acceptance of this offer, which was ratified in the Treaty of Pereyaslav in 1654 This was not Ukraine or Bohdan Khmelnytsky, offering it them self to Russia this was an agreement that both independent nations will go together and fight the Polish that was at the time invading Ukraine and Russia...and nothing more than that. In this agreement the Cossacks also accepted to look upon the tsar as the protecting monarch and did pay some small money for the help and alliance in fighting the Polish.. But this was not giving up Ukrainian lands to the tsar nor did they give up their own Cossacks Rada (parliament) or the right to self governance.. It was more a deal like Canada, Australia, Scotland, New Zealand ect ect ect has to day with England they look up on English monarch as their monarch But still are a independent nation and lands with self governance and their own parliaments and leaders of state.. Russian Empire 1721–1917 (when Peter proclaimed a new nation called Russia ) The Russian Empire (Pre-reform Russian orthography: Россійская Имперія, Modern Russian: Российская империя, translit: Rossiyskaya Imperiya) was a state that existed from 1721 until overthrown by the short-lived liberal February Revolution in 1917. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire Also Ukrainian Cossack had its own Rada (parliament / government) and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands.. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great#Reign_.281762.E2.80.931796.29 The lands was under occupation until 1917 bolshevik revolution until 1991 So based on this facts the Russia state has only had annexed control in Ukraine for 134 years That is fare less then what all Russians think In the 11th century, Kievan Rus' aka Ukraine was, geographically, the largest state in Europe, becoming known in the rest of Europe as Ruthenia (the Latin name for Rus'), especially for western principalities of The name "Ukraine", meaning "in-land" or "native-land" usually interpreted as "border-land", first appears in historical documents of 12th century and then on history maps of the 16th century period. Greater Rus'" was used to apply to all the lands ruled by Kyiv, including those that were not just Slavic, but also Uralic in the north-east portions of the state. So Ukraine and Kyiv is from the 11th century and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands. and it remand occupied until 1917 www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine#Kievan_Rus.27 Ukraine has existed more or less as far back as kyiv has been a city.. Ukraine however has from time to time ,also maintained a semi-independent republic in Zaporozhia, and a colony on the Russian frontier in Sloboda Ukraine. The Battle of Konotop in 1648 took place during the period of Ukrainian history that is generally referred to as the Ruin. This was the time after the death of Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky, during which many power struggles within the Cossack elite took place. Arguably, these power struggles were instigated by The Grand Duchy of Moscow AKA tsardom of Moscow in an effort to undermine the authority of the Cossacks and self governed of the Ukrainian nation and the Ukrainian Cossack state The 1648 Ukrainian Cossack (Kozak) rebellion or Khmelnytsky Uprising, which started an era known as the Ruin The Cossack state, the Cossack Hetmanate, usually viewed as the modern Ukraine and this was why back in 1648 So how can you come up with Ukraine as a state first existed in 1918,__???? Together with a number of other battles between East Slavs, such as Battle of Orsha, the Konotop battle was with a few exceptions an abandoned topic in Russian Imperial and in Soviet historiography. This attitude towards this event is explained by the fact that it dispelled some Russian propaganda positions about the unity of East Slavs, in particular the ones about "eternal friendship of Russian and Ukrainian peoples" and about "natural desire of Ukrainians for union with Russia". For all the skill and the bravery of the Cossacks — especially those defending Konotop — it still remains a bitter victory. A victory that did not have any significant impact on the course of Ukrainian history, where fratricidal war of the Ruin and personal ambitions of treacherous hetmans prevailed. As such, the Konotop battle remains a classic example of the battle and war Russia lost when trying too assert its dominance over Ukraine Ukraine has never really been Russian. Any more than Norway is Swedish or Danish just because Norway was forcefully taking into an union with Sweden and Denmark and for some time under Swedish and Danish occupation and rule dose not make Norway into Swedish or Danish lands ... Norway like Ukraine was just a politically and military occupied nation for some time in its history that's all.. Norway has been from time to time under Swedish and Danish occupation and even some Norwegian city's was built by Swedish and Danish occupier's.... But that doesn't mean that Sweden or Denmark owns Norway or that Norwegians are Swedish or Danish ANY MORE THEN Russia owns Ukraine and Ukrainians are Russians ....!!! History of Norway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQjBkiA_Wk
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  11. THE KIAVAN RUSS AND VIKINGS The Norse Vikings, from the region that we now call Scandinavia , rowed their long ships deep into the rivers of Central and Eastern Europe; pushing up the Volga, the Dnieper, the Volkhov and the Neva rivers, among others. Using rivers and lakes connected to the Volga, these Vikings traded as far as Iran. On a separate route on the Dnieper River, the Vikings traveled as far as Greece. Viking heritage in Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CecTfX28LNQ&t=104s Norwegian Vikings founded Kiev SO IT WAS NOT THE RUSSIANS LIKE PUTIN SAYS !!.... Kiev's Viking Heritage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvE9UPu-3kI Grand Prince Yaroslav the Wise, whose wife Ingegerd was from Swedish / Norwegian royalty The first half of 1031 the Viking King Harald and his men were welcomed by Grand Prince Yaroslav the Wise, whose wife Ingegerd was a distant relative of King Harald of Norway. They were called the Varangians by the Greeks and Eastern Slavs. The Finns called them the Rus‘ which meant “men who row.” In 862 the Viking chieftain Rurik made Kiev, a into a viking trading port and integrated with Slavic tribes this village on the Dnieper became his new capital. The kindom he established became known as the “land of the Rus’.” (Later, 19th century historians would dub the kingdom the “Kievan Rus.”) The Ruriks Kievan Rus kingdom lasted for close to 400 years before the invasion of the Mongul hordes. Russia stole the name Rus from the real Rus’ aka Ukrainians Kiev Rus as the Kievan Rus kingdom was literally born in Kiev and started by a viking called Rurk . Now, as the Russian Army is poised on the borders of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Army is taking orders from the capitol in Kiev, both sides continue to play their roles in their long and history, which began, more or less with the Viking Rurik. But only one nation is the true ancestor of the Kievan Rus kingdom and that is TO DAYS Ukrainians. Russians need to study history and stop believe the falsification of Ukrainian and Russian history and look at the time line and facts.. UKRAINIAN NATION has been around since 898. In the 11th century, Kievan Rus' aka Ukraine was, geographically, the largest state in Europe Also Ukrainian Cossack had its own Rada (parliament / government) and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands.. First of all Russia as a state never showed its ugly head to the world before 1721 when Peter proclaimed a new nation and a new capital for the new nation and he called it Russia... Peter did this after Treaty of Frederiksborg (1720), and the Russo-Swedish Treaty of Nystad (1721) and after the battle of Poltava... On July 27 every year Kyiv celebrates the anniversary of when Kyivan Rus was baptized by Prince Volodymyr the Great in 988. In reaction, Vladimir Legoyda, head of the information department of the Russian Orthodox Church, criticized Ukraine’s attempts to call Prince Volodymyr the Great the “baptizer of Ukraine and a local leader.” The medieval Principality of Moscow wouldn’t be founded until nearly 300 later. So if Kyiv was baptizes by Prince Volodymyr the Great in 988 and The medieval Principality of Moscow did not show its ugly head before 300 years later how can Moscow and Russia clam Ukraine and Kiev never existed hahahaha Before Peter Moscow and Novgorod and other city's was principality's or city sates if you like and the most known was the Grand Duchy of Moscow From 1283–1547 Grand Principality of Moscow members citys of the Grand Principality was the citys of Novgorod, Moscow,rayzan ,suzdal ,vologoda.. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Moscow 1547–1721 Tsardom of Muscovy In 1648 under the Tsardom of Muscovy the Ukrainian leader, Bohdan Khmelnytsky, offered to ally Ukraine with the Russian tsar, Aleksey I. Aleksey's acceptance of this offer, which was ratified in the Treaty of Pereyaslav in 1654 This was not Ukraine or Bohdan Khmelnytsky, offering it them self to Russia this was an agreement that both independent nations will go together and fight the Polish that was at the time invading Ukraine and Russia...and nothing more than that. In this agreement the Cossacks also accepted to look upon the tsar as the protecting monarch and did pay some small money for the help and alliance in fighting the Polish.. But this was not giving up Ukrainian lands to the tsar nor did they give up their own Cossacks Rada (parliament) or the right to self governance.. It was more a deal like Canada, Australia, Scotland, New Zealand ect ect ect has to day with England they look up on English monarch as their monarch But still are a independent nation and lands with self governance and their own parliaments and leaders of state.. Russian Empire 1721–1917 (when Peter proclaimed a new nation called Russia ) The Russian Empire (Pre-reform Russian orthography: Россійская Имперія, Modern Russian: Российская империя, translit: Rossiyskaya Imperiya) was a state that existed from 1721 until overthrown by the short-lived liberal February Revolution in 1917. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire Also Ukrainian Cossack had its own Rada (parliament / government) and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands.. www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_Great#Reign_.281762.E2.80.931796.29 The lands was under occupation until 1917 bolshevik revolution until 1991 So based on this facts the Russia state has only had annexed control in Ukraine for 134 years That is fare less then what all Russians think In the 11th century, Kievan Rus' aka Ukraine was, geographically, the largest state in Europe, becoming known in the rest of Europe as Ruthenia (the Latin name for Rus'), especially for western principalities of The name "Ukraine", meaning "in-land" or "native-land" usually interpreted as "border-land", first appears in historical documents of 12th century and then on history maps of the 16th century period. Greater Rus'" was used to apply to all the lands ruled by Kyiv, including those that were not just Slavic, but also Uralic in the north-east portions of the state. So Ukraine and Kyiv is from the 11th century and was self governing until 1783 when Catharine sent her lover Potemkin to annex Cossack Ukrainian lands. and it remand occupied until 1917 www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine#Kievan_Rus.27 Ukraine has existed more or less as far back as kyiv has been a city.. Ukraine however has from time to time ,also maintained a semi-independent republic in Zaporozhia, and a colony on the Russian frontier in Sloboda Ukraine. The Battle of Konotop in 1648 took place during the period of Ukrainian history that is generally referred to as the Ruin. This was the time after the death of Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky, during which many power struggles within the Cossack elite took place. Arguably, these power struggles were instigated by The Grand Duchy of Moscow AKA tsardom of Moscow in an effort to undermine the authority of the Cossacks and self governed of the Ukrainian nation and the Ukrainian Cossack state The 1648 Ukrainian Cossack (Kozak) rebellion or Khmelnytsky Uprising, which started an era known as the Ruin The Cossack state, the Cossack Hetmanate, usually viewed as the modern Ukraine and this was why back in 1648 So how can you come up with Ukraine as a state first existed in 1918,__???? Together with a number of other battles between East Slavs, such as Battle of Orsha, the Konotop battle was with a few exceptions an abandoned topic in Russian Imperial and in Soviet historiography. This attitude towards this event is explained by the fact that it dispelled some Russian propaganda positions about the unity of East Slavs, in particular the ones about "eternal friendship of Russian and Ukrainian peoples" and about "natural desire of Ukrainians for union with Russia". For all the skill and the bravery of the Cossacks — especially those defending Konotop — it still remains a bitter victory. A victory that did not have any significant impact on the course of Ukrainian history, where fratricidal war of the Ruin and personal ambitions of treacherous hetmans prevailed. As such, the Konotop battle remains a classic example of the battle and war Russia lost when trying too assert its dominance over Ukraine Ukraine has never really been Russian. Any more than Norway is Swedish or Danish just because Norway was forcefully taking into an union with Sweden and Denmark and for some time under Swedish and Danish occupation and rule dose not make Norway into Swedish or Danish lands ... Norway like Ukraine was just a politically and military occupied nation for some time in its history that's all.. Norway has been from time to time under Swedish and Danish occupation and even some Norwegian city's was built by Swedish and Danish occupier's.... But that doesn't mean that Sweden or Denmark owns Norway or that Norwegians are Swedish or Danish ANY MORE THEN Russia owns Ukraine and Ukrainians are Russians ....!!! History of Norway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQjBkiA_Wk
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