Comments by "bobby hans" (@user-oc7ll9sv5r) on "Ukraine to Give Up Territory for NATO Membership?" video.
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1.Ukraine should NOT give up territory, appeasement never works good eks. Neville Chamberlain and Hitler with the Munich Agreement land for peace , an absolute disgrace)
2. disarmed Russia disarm them to the level of some south Pacific island and give Ukriane all of Russians weapons and nukes
3. When they have lost NO restructuration should be done let them rot and its ppl suffer in their beloved Russik Mir they made their own bed let them sleep in it !!)
4. Russian should be forced to understand that all of their history is fake based own a myth connecting them to Kyiv Russ; and their historical connection to Ukriane capital Kyiv is a massive falsification of history made up by Catherine the grate (she was german not Russian by the way ) !! Russian are not even slavic they are descendants of Finnic nomadic tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back in the day Mongolians build Moscow as a trading post in 1200s and that is the origins of Moskovia )
6. We should NOT let them be able to re build there socially structors or military to western or even North Korea standards they should be frozen isolated and blacked from taking part in any intr, cooperation civilian, economical, political , educational , financial, trade , transport , and travel .. Should be locked down uncompromised isolated, harder than North Korea locked down its on ppl . totally frozen so it never ever raise up and can threaten anyone ever again----)
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1. There is NO WAY Ukraine should give up territory, and there is no point in negotiating with Russia .
(YES !! for sure appeasement never works good eks. Neville Chamberlain and Hitler with the Munich Agreement land for peace , an absolute disgrace)
2. Russia needs to be disarmed.
(YES!! disarm them to the level of some south Pacific island and give Ukriane all of Russians weapons and nukes )
3. Restructured.
(NO!! let them root and its ppl suffer in their beloved Russik Mir they made their own bed let them sleep in it !!)
4. Re-educated
(YES!! they need to understand that all of their history is fake based own a myth connecting them to Kyiv Russia and is a massive falsification of history made up by Catherine the grate (she was german not Russian by the way ) !! Russian are not even slavic they are
descendants of Finnic nomadic tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back in the day Mongolians build Moscow as a trading post in 1200s and that is the origins of Moskovia )
6. Brought into the 21st century.
(NO !! they should be frozen isolated and blacked from taking part in any intr, cooperation civilian, economical, political , educational , financial, trade , transport , and travel .. Should be locked down uncompromised isolated, harder than North Korea locked down its on ppl . totally frozen so it never ever raise up and can threaten anyone ever again----)
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1. There is NO WAY Ukraine should give up territory, and there is no point in negotiating with Russia .
(YES !! for sure appeasement never works good eks. Neville Chamberlain and Hitler with the Munich Agreement land for peace , an absolute disgrace)
2. Russia needs to be disarmed.
(YES!! disarm them to the level of some south Pacific island and give Ukriane all of Russians weapons and nukes )
3. Restructured.
(NO!! let them root and its ppl suffer in their beloved Russik Mir they made their own bed let them sleep in it !!)
4. Re-educated
(YES!! they need to understand that all of their history is fake based own a myth connecting them to Kyiv Russia and is a massive falsification of history made up by Catherine the grate (she was german not Russian by the way ) !! Russian are not even slavic they are
descendants of Finnic nomadic tribes that assimilated with Mongolians back in the day Mongolians build Moscow as a trading post in 1200s and that is the origins of Moskovia )
6. Brought into the 21st century.
(NO !! they should be frozen isolated and blacked from taking part in any intr, cooperation civilian, economical, political , educational , financial, trade , transport , and travel .. Should be locked down uncompromised isolated, harder than North Korea locked down its on ppl . totally frozen so it never ever raise up and can threaten anyone ever again----)
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RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND IS NOT ACCEPTABLE !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination like a type of 2nd class country; that is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept to be some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country, that indirectly will serving the kremlins geopolitical agenda, and so Kremlin, the RuZZians and Putin can feel better about themselves ...
All the Eastern European countries has more or less joined NATO because they was scared of Russia and want make sure they will stay independent, (and the same goes for the EU financial independence ) Nobody forced Eastern European countries to join , NATO or the EU all of them came running and begging and knocking on the door of NATO and EU by themselves, asking and begging to be let into The EU and NATO !!
Russia invading Ukriane back 2014 and Georgia back in 2008 and now all out war with Ukraine from 2022++ just showed, why it was and still is a good idea for those Eastern European countries to join NATO, and the EU because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well .
During Soviet times those Eastern countries where nothing but quasi Russia puppet states and where totally exploited by Russia under under its heel and boot. If those eastern European countries didn't join NATO then they couldn't have guaranteed their own future continuous independence from Russia by themselves . Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure their independence !!!
The former satellite states like Poland,Romania,Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect was running to and knocking at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come inn and thats the truth !! . If Russia was not such a asshole country and stoped constantly bulling neighboring countries maybe other neighboring countries will not need to join NATO and by more open and welcoming to Russia ..
On a side side note ; Election under a gun with tanks and thugs standing over the voting boxes is not an election it can not be a free and legal election...Referendums vía gun point isn't a referendum, it's racketeering. Something that Russia knows oh so very well how to do. YOU CAN VOTE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN It will never be legal as long as Russian army is there and as lone as it is an illegal gov. put there by an occupying force
It might be useful to recap some of the reason why Russia is now an outcast :
Russian interference in numerous elections and referendums in EU countries over the last decade; Russia's active disinformation campaigns across the EU;
Russian-based cyber attacks targeting numerous EU countries;
Provocative Russian military flights in and around EU and NATO airspace;
Russia's interference with GPS navigation systems in Scandinavia;
Russia's continued deployment of "peacekeepers" in Moldova despite that country's repeated requests that Russian troops be replaced with UN peacekeepers;
Russia's 2008 war against Georgia and its continued occupation of some 20 percent of Georgian territory;
Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea region;
Russia's intense involvement in the war in eastern Ukraine, which the ICC in November 2016 ruled "an international armed conflict between Ukraine and the Russian Federation";
Russia's obstructionism in implementation of the Minsk agreements to end the Ukraine conflict;
Russia's role in acts of terrorism in the 2014 downing of a passenger airliner (Malaysia Airlines MH17) over Ukraine that killed 298 people;
Russia's poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko in London in 2006;
Russia's attempted assassination of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal in Salisbury in 2018;
among lots of other things to much to even list up ..
NONE OF THIS ABOVE WAS SOMETHING THE EU , THE USA OR EVEN NATO, FORCED OR TRICKED RUSSIA INTO DOING !!!
RUSSIA’S INVASION OF UKRAINE in 2014 VIOLATED INTERNATIONAL LAW:
1. The Geneva Convention.
2. Charter of the United Nations
3. The Helsinki Accords
4. The Charter of the OSCE
5. Budapest Memorandum of 1994
6. Two Russia, Ukraine friendship treaties
7. International Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Racial Discrimination
8. European Court of Human Rights
THE LEGAL FACTS WHY CRIMEA BELONGS TO UKRAINE .
The earlier published documents, and materials that have emerged more recently make clear that the transfer of Crimea from the RSFSR to the UkrSSR was carried out in accordance with the 1936 Soviet constitution, which in Article 18 stipulated that “the territory of a Union Republic may not be altered without its consent.” The proceedings of the USSR Supreme Soviet Presidium meeting indicate that both the RSFSR and the UkrSSR had given their consent via their republic parliaments.
One of the officials present at the 19 February session, Otto Kuusinen, even boasted that “only in our country [the USSR] is it possible that issues of the utmost importance such as the territorial transfer of individual oblasts to a particular republic can be decided without any difficulties.” One might argue that the process in 1954 would have been a lot better if it had been complicated and difficult, but no matter how one judges the expeditiousness of the territorial reconfiguration, the main point to stress here is that it is incorrect to say (as some Russian commentators and government officials recently have) that Crimea was transferred unconstitutionally or illegally. The legal system in the Soviet Union was mostly a fiction, but the transfer did occur in accordance with the rules in effect at the time.
Moreover, regardless of how the transfer was carried out, the Russian Federation expressly accepted Ukraine’s 1991 borders both in the December 1991 Belovezhskaya Pushcha accords (the agreements that precipitated and codified the dissolution of the Soviet Union) and in the December 1994 Budapest Memorandum that finalized Ukraine’s status as a non-nuclear weapons state.
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