Comments by "bobby hans" (@user-oc7ll9sv5r) on "Why NATO u0026 EU Will Support Ukraine Indefinitely @JakeBroe" video.

  1. Ukraine territory is a whopping 603,628 square kilometers (233,062 sq mi), Russia at one point  occupied a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory and some has been librated so now we are down to 119,000 km2  What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway..... A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is 119,000 km2  In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, luxembourg all put together.. In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland and 80% of England all put together !! In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia all put together !! Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !! I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country".  NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom  and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ... ---------It is embarrassing that the US and Europe do not support Ukraine more than they do , the US. were in Afghanistan for 20 years and achieved less than Ukraine in 2 years, and Ukraine is also fighting a much stronger opponent with many more resources !! As a Norwegian I am ashamed of our policies in the west , the western nations governments use every opportunity to go on national TV and tell how much they support, but the truth is that we have only provided 94 Euros per inhabitant, it is ridiculous when we look at the size of Ukraine, the opponent and the way Russia has bombed cities in Ukraine back to the Stone Age, and that we (western nations ) have not lost a single person in the war , we are talking about Europe, democracy and freedom that Ukraine is defending , one can only be ashamed
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  2. SOME SAY; Every country has it's own national interest we should respect that OK AND SO DOES UKRAINE AND THEY WANT TO JOIN THE EU AND NATO AND RUSSIA SHOULD RESPECT THAT AND THEY DON'T !! AND ON A SIDE NOTE : NATO is already 500 km from Moscow via Latvia and 150 km from St, Petersburg via Estonia so the argument that NATO will get closer to Moscow if Ukraine joins NATO is BS there is 800 km from Kyiv to Moscow .. And her is a thought If every neighbor you have is running to begging NATO to let them join NATO is it becouse you are such a nice and good neighbor? Or is it because you act like a bully and are aggressive and invade your neighbor lands sending in troops and tanks Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968, Poland 1980 Moldova 1990-91, Georgia 2008, East Ukraine / Crimea 2014 ++ and now all of Ukraine 2022+++ Russia eats eats eats its victims and then blames its victims for eating them !! Maybe if you act in a more nicer way, then your neighbors will liked you more and maybe your neighbors in your neighborhood will want to be around you as well ..
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  3. US. and UK., gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass.. As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , because Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !! This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity. Let me explain and give some Content !! According to the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would: 1. Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders. 2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Ukraine. 3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine to influence their politics. 4. Seek immediate action to provide assistance Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used". 5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine. 6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments We need to understand that EITHER the word/ deals and / or the grantees of the west are worth something or they are not !! And here we can clearly see what such guarantees with the west is worth, it has been 8 years now since Russia invaded Ukraine in the east of the country and annexed parts of Ukraine in Crimea AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED so now Russia is going all inn and taking everything THE CAN!! That is the result of worthless grantees !! And here's something the WEST is clearly overlooking ; Taiwan , Israel and everyone else is also asking the question; CAN I TRUST THE WEST TO HOLD TO THEIR WORD AND STAND BY THE GUARANTEES THEY GIVE ! and not just Taiwan and Israel, is right now asking themselves those questions, but even small eastern European NATO member states that border Russia, will be asking themselves those questions as well !! IT'S ABOUT TRUST YOU LOSE TRUST YOU LOSE EVERYTHING!! And her is the real kicker ; Also Iran, North Korea and China will be seeing what is going on and soon they will be thinking the west is weak; And the will be thinking and saying things like, just look what the west did when Russia was calling out their bluff about red lines in Ukraine ... The time is now, we have our chance to stick it to them !!!! And then we will see China take Taiwan (so no more silicon-chips for you ) and then we will see Iran take Israel (middle east oil all gone and the middles east up in fire ) And when North Korea goes into South no more south Korea as north will take it over as well !! SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE ,TO TAKE A STAND NOW OR LATER !!
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  4. US. and UK., gave Ukraine a guarantee of protecting Ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity based on the 1991 borders that included Crimea and east Ukraine Luhansk and Donbass.. As of the result of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, US., gave Ukraine a guarantee that the US, stands now as a grantor of Ukraine sovereignty , because Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons and back then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile !! This guarantee was reconfirmed by United States when in 2009 released a statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty After the annexation of Crimea by in 2014, The US, Canada, the UK, France along with other countries, stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity. Let me explain and give some Content !! According to the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, Russia, the US and the UK confirmed their recognition of Ukraine becoming parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning their nuclear arsenal to Russia and that they would: 1. Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders. 2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Ukraine. 3. Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine to influence their politics. 4. Seek immediate action to provide assistance Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used". 5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine. 6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments We need to understand that EITHER the word/ deals and / or the grantees of the west are worth something or they are not !! And here we can clearly see what such guarantees with the west is worth, it has been 8 years now since Russia invaded Ukraine in the east of the country and annexed parts of Ukraine in Crimea AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED so now Russia is going all inn and taking everything THE CAN!! That is the result of worthless grantees !! And here's something the WEST is clearly overlooking ; Taiwan , Israel and everyone else is also asking the question; CAN I TRUST THE WEST TO HOLD TO THEIR WORD AND STAND BY THE GUARANTEES THEY GIVE ! and not just Taiwan and Israel, is right now asking themselves those questions, but even small eastern European NATO member states that border Russia, will be asking themselves those questions as well !! IT'S ABOUT TRUST YOU LOSE TRUST YOU LOSE EVERYTHING!! And her is the real kicker ; Also Iran, North Korea and China will be seeing what is going on and soon they will be thinking the west is weak; And the will be thinking and saying things like, just look what the west did when Russia was calling out their bluff about red lines in Ukraine ... The time is now, we have our chance to stick it to them !!!! And then we will see China take Taiwan (so no more silicon-chips for you ) and then we will see Iran take Israel (middle east oil all gone and the middles east up in fire ) And when North Korea goes into South no more south Korea as north will take it over as well !! SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE ,TO TAKE A STAND NOW OR LATER !!
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  5. and how is supporting Russia stopping africans from coming to France ?? especially when Russia is using africans from North africa to flood EU (including france ) with immigrants and refugees transporting them through Russia and belarus letting them cross over into poland and also folding Finland's borders and the baltic bordars into EU
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  6. Putin did not begin the undercover proxy-war in 2014 so that it would end in peace, independency and prosperity for Ukraine and its people. and he did not start a all out war in 2022 for the independency and prosperity for Ukraine and its people This war does not hinder Putin, it facilitates his goals instead. Putin started it so it would end with the defeat of Ukraine and the Ukrainian peoples/ nations aspirations of true self-government true independence and democratic nation, that was fare away from the hegemony control and orbit of Russia … IN OTHER words with our collapse of Ukrainian society. It helps him keep Ukraine on the Kremlin hook and hegemony control and helps Putin feel himself as an influential leader negotiating with the West. So, why would he need peace? And before someone starts up about Russia right to protect itself from the "western incursion and decadent western incorrectness of political arrogance" (whatever that means ) and therefor Russian needs a "a broader sphere of interest in Ukraine " Let me ask you this ; Who gives Putin the right to have "a broader sphere of interest in Ukraine " we live in 2022 not 1822 ??? What about the people who live in "that so called sphere of interest" that is the sovereign country of Ukraine don't they (the Ukrainian ppl.) have an " sphere of interest in Ukraine itself " ? Shall the Ukrainians just bend their knee and behave as slaves, and become some sort of quasi 2nd class nation/ country, and have their society run under the heal and accept being kicked by Kremlin's boot of the " sphere of Russian interest " ; Should Ukraine just roll over and let Russia controlled Ukraine for the sole benefit of Putins klan agenda and the geo political intrs. of the Moscow Kremlin kleptocracy elites?: And let Ukraine become some sort of quasi geographical entity for political advantages of the Kremlin ? Or should Ukraine stand up and fight against such tyrannical things as PUTINS "sphere of interest" as the independent European self governing state it is FIGHT for freedom, sovereignty and self-rule ?? FACT !!! Ukraine was forced into this war by Russia not Russia by Ukraine (or anyone else ) Volodymyr Zelenskyy, has no choice he needs to now be the president of a country, that is in a war defending its country and ppl. against a brutal evil aggressor. And the authorities of the aggressor country do not want any peace. (If the Russia army stops fighting today and goes home back to Russia tomorrow there will be NO war If Ukraine stops fighting today there will be NO Ukraine !! ) Russians doesn't want to be a part of the western democracy thats fine Ukraine does Ukrainian society has nothing good to say about marximen or wokeisem or Russian imperialism they among Ukraine's stand absolutely equal and are seen with the disdain, loathing and contempt !!! But like I say if Russia has no intrs. and they feel Russia society values and norms living is so much better than the despicable arrogant western world, just stay in Russia stop living inside the west stop buying houses , sending your kids to western schools for a western education and holidays to the western world and stop using western products and technology no prob you go do you; you go be Russia no one is stopping you !! Why not try and stop emulating the west will at the same time rejecting the west and then on top of it claiming to be its equal .. here is a thought if you are the emulating the west you are a copy and a copy is just hard core evidence that the original is the better !! If your Russki Mir (Russian World ideology of imperialism and expansionism ) was better than the western world; why do you not 100% just stick to being Russian why are you emulating everything that is western !! The answer is clear because its better than your Russki Mir !! Ukraine, Georgia , Moldova the Baltic's and the rest of Eastern Europe don't want your Russian world (KGB Putin Stalinism strong man BS ) they want western democracy freedom and choice so let them make their own future there own mistakes and there own success those ppl. countries and nations don't want your Moscow /Kremlin HEGEMONY called Russki Mir or your so called Russian greatness of special rights of so called 3rd Rome !!   Let's take a look at Ukraine and the same goes for Georgia and other countries that Moscow wants to bully and kick around !! Ukraine is a sovereign nation with rights and should be free to govern itself. Russia as a political entity has never had the best interest of the Ukraine and its people at heart. The Ukrainians have a distinct and rich culture, their own language, and a desire for self-rule, liberty and freedom to make decisions of its own. Russia wants to control Ukraine so it can obtain its resources for its own benefit (as has happened throughout history). Ukraine in its east and south has in-fact the 3rd biggest oil and gas reservers in Europe and should those resources start getting taped and sold to the west then Russia has a massive competitor on its hands for the European market !! You don't believe me google Ukraine shield gas reserves !! Russian control has never been for the benefit of the Ukrainian people. BUT HERE"S THE REAL POINT: even if it had been, Ukraine is still a sovereign nation and has the right to rule itself!!! The Russian state has sought to control Ukraine and to deceive the rest of the world into believing that there is no Ukrainian culture or language, and that Ukraine is simply a dissident Russian state through use of propaganda and oppression has repeatedly attempted to wipe out the Ukrainian people and culture. Do I need to mention the millions of Ukrainians killed by the Russian government? The fear and repression of Ukraine under Russian rule? The families lost behind the "Iron Curtain?" The Holodomor genocide when Russia killed 10 mill Ukrainians in 1933 - 1934 and after that replaced then with ethnic Russians manly in the east of Ukraine (todays Donbas ) for crying out loud? And that is why after 1991 the Ukrainians rally around their rich and beautiful culture - because it is THEIRS. And because they deserve a voice of their own, and to live free from the oppression of foreign state that seeks to exploit and obliterate them! Russian controlled soviet union former satellite states like Poland, Romania, and Czech the Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect ect ...couldn't wait to join NATO and the EU to get as fare away from Russian hegemony control as fast as the possibly can at the time . If the Russians weren't suchaaaaholes, they wouldn't have to worry about EU NATO and former satellite states like Poland, Romania, and Czech the Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect ect running too the front door of EU and NATO . (PS : yes i agree not all is perfect in the west but is why better and has always been why better than anything Russia has come up with in history ; And that is why ppl from all over the world (including Russians ) move to Europe ,UK and US in the millions !! ;  For all its faults that the western world has and it has a few, it still is 10000 times better than Russia , Africa or china !!! I mean no one is building a wall to hold ppl. inside like Russian controlled Soviet Union did the US is in fact building walls to stop ppl. for coming inn and so dose European countries as well )j
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  7. FACT:  If the Russians stop fighting and gose home tomorrow it will be the end of the war; And if Ukraine stops fighting tomorrow it will be the end of Ukraine ! THERE IS ONLY ONE AGGRESSOR (RuZZia) HERE AND ONE  DEFENDER (Ukraine) FACT !! ; There is not one Ukrainian solider attacking Russian territory!! can Putin say that there is no Russians soldiers inside Ukraine territory! ? If Russian army lays down its arms and goes back to Russia NOT one Ukrainian soldier will stop them or attack Russia ; if Ukrainian army lay down its arms and goes home the Russian army will attack them and attack all of Ukraine ..
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  8. NATO is a "threat" to Russia in the sense that a cop on the beat is a "threat" to a mugger. NATO wouldn't have been formed in the first place if Stalin had not rejected the US offer of the same Marshall Plan which so benefited the rest of Europe everywhere it was instituted, Russia / Stalin was instead bent every effort to CONQUER and dominate European neighboring states and expand Russia, borders with its concept of "sphere of influence " over the near abroad.. We need to understand that Russia didn't come to encompass 11% of earth's land area, by being invaded by other countries; Russia did so by invading far more other countries, than it was itself invaded by ; Remember Russia is a Federation of states , and the Russian part of that federation is the smallest state in the "Russian federation.". (Russia with a total area of 17,098,242 Km² (6,601,665 mi²) and a land area of 16,376,870 Km² (6,323,142 mi²), equivalent to 11% of the total world's landmass ) In history MANY and ALL countries have been invaded frequently by their neighbors throughout all of history. Was Russia invaded more than France? Germany? Poland in HISTORY ? NO IT WAS NOT !!! So this acting the victim, (west always invades Russia act ) when it comes to the west, that Kremlin does all the time, . This buhhh the evil-west AGGRESSIVE west always invades us always is attacking us Buhhhh; This is why we see western NATO as a danger buhhhh !!!! THIS TYPE OF ACTING THE VICTIM is absolute and nothing more and less than Kremlin BS it is done so you overlook the fact that it is Russia that invades other not vise versa and to pull the smoke over your eyes !!! .. Do i need to mention all of eastern Europe was under brutal Russian regime, hegemonic control for over 50 years .. ?? And that historical Russia has invaded and occupied way more of its neighbors then vice versa ! Russia says NATO is using Ukraine as a nuke base and therefore letting Ukraine into NATO is to close to Russian borders!! But if you take a closer look at the argument it turns out to be absolute BS argument (even before Finland and Sweden join NATO ) because NATO is and was already 150 km away to St Petersburg via Estonia and 500 km via Latvia to Moscow (there is about 800 km from Ukraine to the Russia's capital so how is NATO getting closer to Moscow if Ukraine joins NATO !!) the concerns of the Russian Federation regarding the possible admission of the Ukraine to NATO is merely a cover for a fear of democracy developing on its frontiers and therefor a threat to Putin dictator like leadership  the modern authoritarian obsession with civil society repression dates back to how all NON-rational agent/ or rational being like exs KGB Putin is and how this paranoid ppl like him think and acts in other words "You Can’t Assume a Nut Will Act Rationally," and a nut that is manic-paranoid and narcissistic like KGB Putin is a special kind of nut !! .   The argument of Moscow that Ukraine borders are dangerously close to Russia and its capital so Ukraine cannot join NATO It is absolutely irrelevant in this day and age!!! Ukraine has no intrs, in becoming a hegemony Puppet on a string country of Moscow geopolitical needs in fact Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation and Ukraine is no exception to that rule . So why is this NUKE platform country argument by Moscow a BS agreement in this day and age ?? Well becouse Russia has also had and always will have at all times some Russian nuclear submarines plant off the cost of western nations coastlines armed with nuclear warheads YES !! they are load up with tactical nukes missiles and those subs are there 365 days a year undetected and reddy to launch the nukes or/and even drones with small nukes from there lunch base platforms ( Russia has its subs on nations porch as Putin likes to say) So Putin's reasons are weak to say the least its a BS argument becouse NATO also has nuclear subs of the Russian consline so like Putin also says they (Nato ) has nukes on our porch (on the Russian borders act act ) of our beloved city of Moscow and Russia we need to react !.. . And Exactly JUST LIKE RUSSIA can and do have nuclear submarines (with nuclear warheads) plant of the cost of western nations coastlines; SO DO WE HAVE and the west do it as well we plant our subs of the Russian coastline; Because the UK , France and USA has the same capabilities and their tactical nuke subs are planted, just out of Murmansk and in the Baltic Sea and in the north pole and the Baltics sea !!!! Don't forget Estonian is only 150 away from St Petersburg if in the baltic sea or near Finland we are talking 2OO km its nothing !! SO LIKE I SAY THE ARGUMENT THAT UKRAINE WILL BE USED AS LUNCH PLATFORM FOR NATO IS JUST BS NATO DOES NOT NEED UKRAINE AS A LUNCH PLATFORM !!! (MAYBE BACK IN THE 60S this argument was a thing bit today with the tech of today it's not an argument anymore ; NOT TODAY ) NATO is not a threat to Russia. Putin is using it as a bogeyman to distract from the poor living standard. Every Muscovite gets fed their daily dose of "Geopolitika", "Nuclear Weapons", "Russia Superpower" Putin the strong leader , US weak and so on and so on ... . It numbs the hunger and the cold for the average Russian with his Bolshevik mindset and sorrow of the loose of USSR superpower status . And her is a thought .. if and before someone comes with the Cuba nukes back in the 60s argument let me tell you this it was back in the cold war a was another time all together and The main difference is that Castro invited Russia with their missiles to Cuba to threaten the west while Ukraine’s young democracy has been annexed by clandestine operation and clandestine invading force in 2014 and a continuons secondary invasion overtly in 2022 by a nuke power Russia and Ukraine is trying to protect itself from Putin’s dictatorship and aggressive actions of war, that has already killed 50000 Ukrainians forced 3.8 mill internally displaced Ukrainian refugee fleeing Russian aggression running away from Russian bombs that are hitting their city homes and schools ; (so this Cuba argument falls dead in the water as there is no resemblance to the situation at all )
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  9.  @bilic8094  Claim: The cases of Kosovo and Crimea are identical Fact: The Kosovo operation was conducted following exhaustive discussion involving the whole international community dealing with a long-running crisis that was recognized by the UN Security Council as a threat to international peace and security. Following the operation, the international community engaged in nearly ten years of diplomacy, under UN authority, to find a political solution and to settle Kosovo's final status, as prescribed by UNSCR 1244. In Crimea, there was no pre-existing crisis, no attempt to discuss the situation with the Ukrainian government, no involvement of the United Nations, and no attempt at a negotiated solution. In Kosovo, international attempts to find a solution took over 3,000 days. In Crimea, Russia annexed part of Ukraine's territory in less than 30 days. It has sought to justify its illegal and illegitimate annexation, in part, by pointing to a "referendum" that was inconsistent with Ukrainian law, held under conditions of illegal armed occupation with no freedom of expression or media access for the opposition, and without any credible international monitoring. Claim: Russia's annexation of Crimea was justified by the opinion of the International Court of Justice on the independence of Kosovo Fact: The court stated that their opinion was not a precedent. The court said they had been given a "narrow and specific" question about Kosovo's independence which would not cover the broader legal consequences of that decision.
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  10.  @bilic8094  Fact: The NATO operation for Kosovo followed over a year of intense efforts by the UN and the Contact Group, of which Russia was a member, to bring about a peaceful solution. The UN Security Council on several occasions branded the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and the mounting number of refugees driven from their homes as a threat to international peace and security. NATO's Operation Allied Force was launched to prevent the large-scale and sustained violations of human rights and the killing of civilians. Following the air campaign, the subsequent NATO-led peacekeeping operation, KFOR, which initially included Russia, has been under UN mandate (UNSCR 1244) , with the aim of providing a safe and secure environment in Kosovo.
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  11.  @bilic8094  Claim: Russia has the right to demand a "100% guarantee" that Ukraine will not join NATO Fact: According to Article I of the Helsinki Final Act Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) in 1975, every country has the right "to belong or not to belong to international organizations, to be or not to be a party to bilateral or multilateral treaties including the right to be or not to be a party to treaties of alliance." All the OSCE member states, including Russia, have sworn to uphold those principles. In line with those principles, Ukraine has the right to choose for itself whether it joins any treaty of alliance, including NATO's founding treaty. Moreover, when Russia signed the Founding Act, it pledged to uphold "respect for sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of all states and their inherent right to choose the means to ensure their own security". Thus Ukraine has the right to choose its own alliances, and Russia has, by its own repeated agreement, no right to dictate that choice.
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  12.  @bilic8094  EVEN SERBIA SUPPORT UKRAINE After the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the Serbian government reaffirmed its respect for the territorial integrity of Ukraine.Serbia voted in favor of UN General Assembly resolutions condemning Russia’s illegal attempt to annex four regions of Ukraine and has said Crimea and Ukraine is not the same as Kosovo !! Belgrade recognises Ukraine in its entirety, including territories occupied by Russian forces, while Kyiv refuses to recognise the independence of Kosovo, which declared independence from Serbia in 2008. Since 2022, Serbia has accepted Ukrainian refugees, sent humanitarian aid to Ukraine and pledged help with its post-war rebuilding effort. SO NOT EVEN SERBIA AGREES WITH YOUR FALSE NARRATIVES !!
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  13.  @bilic8094  NOT EVER SERBIA AGREES WITH YOU BUDDY Belgrade recognises Ukraine in its entirety, including territories occupied by Russian forces, while Kyiv refuses to recognise the independence of Kosovo, which declared independence from Serbia in 2008. Since 2022, Serbia has accepted Ukrainian refugees, sent humanitarian aid to Ukraine and pledged help with its post-war rebuilding effort.  Belgrade recognises Ukraine in its entirety, including territories occupied by Russian forces, while Kyiv refuses to recognise the independence of Kosovo, which declared independence from Serbia in 2008. Since 2022, Serbia has accepted Ukrainian refugees, sent humanitarian aid to Ukraine and pledged help with its post-war rebuilding effort.
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  14.  @bilic8094  NOT EVEN SERBIA AGREES WITH YOUR BS ... BUDDY Belgrade recognises Ukraine in its entirety, including territories occupied by Russian forces, while Kyiv refuses to recognise the independence of Kosovo, which declared independence from Serbia in 2008. Since 2022, Serbia has accepted Ukrainian refugees, sent humanitarian aid to Ukraine and pledged help with its post-war rebuilding effort.
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  15.  @bilic8094  Claim: NATO has bases all around the world Fact: NATO's military infrastructure outside the territory of Allies is limited to those areas in which the Alliance is conducting operations. Thus the Alliance has military facilities in Afghanistan for the support of the Resolute Support mission, and in Kosovo for the KFOR mission. NATO has civilian liaison offices in partner countries such as Georgia, Ukraine and Russia. These cannot be considered as "military bases". Individual Allies have overseas bases on the basis of bilateral agreements and the principle of host-nation consent, in contrast with Russian bases on the territory of Moldova (Transnistria), Ukraine (the Autonomous Republic of Crimea) and Georgia (the regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia)
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  16.  @bilic8094  Claim from Russia : The cases of Kosovo and Crimea are identical Fact: The Kosovo operation was conducted following exhaustive discussion involving the whole international community dealing with a long-running crisis that was recognized by the UN Security Council as a threat to international peace and security. Following the operation, the international community engaged in nearly ten years of diplomacy, under UN authority, to find a political solution and to settle Kosovo's final status, as prescribed by UNSCR 1244. In Crimea, there was no pre-existing crisis, no attempt to discuss the situation with the Ukrainian government, no involvement of the United Nations, and no attempt at a negotiated solution. In Kosovo, international attempts to find a solution took over 3,000 days. In Crimea, Russia annexed part of Ukraine's territory in less than 30 days. It has sought to justify its illegal and illegitimate annexation, in part, by pointing to a "referendum" that was inconsistent with Ukrainian law, held under conditions of illegal armed occupation with no freedom of expression or media access for the opposition, and without any credible international monitoring.
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  17. RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND IS NOT ACCEPTABLE !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination like a type of 2nd class country; that is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept to be some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country, that indirectly will serving the kremlins geopolitical agenda, and so Kremlin, the RuZZians and Putin can feel better about themselves ... All the Eastern European countries has more or less joined NATO because they was scared of Russia and want make sure they will stay independent, (and the same goes for the EU financial independence ) Nobody forced Eastern European countries to join , NATO or the EU all of them came running and begging and knocking on the door of NATO and EU by themselves, asking and begging to be let into The EU and NATO  !! Russia invading Ukraine back 2014 and Georgia back in 2008 and now all out war with Ukraine from 2022++ just showed, why it was and still is a good idea for those Eastern European countries to join NATO, and the EU  because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well . During Soviet times those Eastern countries were nothing but quasi Russia puppet states and were totally exploited by Russia under its heel and boot. If those eastern European countries didn't join NATO then they couldn't have guaranteed their own future continuous independence from Russia by themselves . Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure their independence !!! The former satellite states like Poland,Romania,Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect was running to and knocking at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come inn and thats the truth !! . If Russia was not such a asshole country and stoped constantly bulling neighboring countries maybe other neighboring countries will not need to join NATO and by more open and welcoming to Russia ..
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